Surely Eagles & Swans should be active traders?

[UpTheGuts]

Surely the Swans and Weagles should be looking to trade a fair few of their players to other clubs during trade week?

Not talking a stocktake sale or anything, but the value of their players would currently be inflated by last Saturday's GF enabling them to attract higher picks than they may individually be "worth" if those players were at other clubs...

I know both clubs would still consider themselves very much in premiership mode so any "stars" wouldn't be traded, but it just occurs to me that if for example the Lions had traded heavily after even the 2004 GF (let alone after 2003) - eg Bradshaw, Aka, Notting, Copeland, Michael - then they'd have some very very talented young players starting to hit maturity.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but surely you buy low and sell high?

 

[sinepari]

The key to our long-term success is drafting. By suddenly electing to go for quick fixes, you take away any long-term success. We need to use our draft selections to pick players to enhance our capability to win another flag in 5-6 years time. Our current list has proven it's capable and it's relatively young.

Just my thoughts.

 

[Grimreepah]

Surely the Swans and Weagles should be looking to trade a fair few of their players to other clubs during trade week?

Not talking a stocktake sale or anything, but the value of their players would currently be inflated by last Saturday's GF enabling them to attract higher picks than they may individually be "worth" if those players were at other clubs...

I know both clubs would still consider themselves very much in premiership mode so any "stars" wouldn't be traded, but it just occurs to me that if for example the Lions had traded heavily after even the 2004 GF (let alone after 2003) - eg Bradshaw, Aka, Notting, Copeland, Michael - then they'd have some very very talented young players starting to hit maturity.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but surely you buy low and sell high?

Even if you draft very good young players, trading away experienced players is probably going to hurt you in the short term. If you are contender for the flag next year, best thing is to try and keep as much of the group together.

 

[LukeHodge15]

Surely the Swans and Weagles should be looking to trade a fair few of their players to other clubs during trade week?

Not talking a stocktake sale or anything, but the value of their players would currently be inflated by last Saturday's GF enabling them to attract higher picks than they may individually be "worth" if those players were at other clubs...

I know both clubs would still consider themselves very much in premiership mode so any "stars" wouldn't be traded, but it just occurs to me that if for example the Lions had traded heavily after even the 2004 GF (let alone after 2003) - eg Bradshaw, Aka, Notting, Copeland, Michael - then they'd have some very very talented young players starting to hit maturity.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but surely you buy low and sell high?

Good post

Agree with the fact that while their stock is high, eagles and swans should trade a couple of guys away for some high draft picks. Keep the young talent coming through. I bet they don't though. Worsfold has shown he is not intrested in trade week and Roos gives away draft picks every year.

 

[sinepari]

Woosha got Stenglein two years ago and we traded McConnell & Green for picks last years. Not too bad.

 

[WeSt CoAsT EaGLeS]

Rowan Jones - Gone
Josh Wooden - Gone
Andrew McDougall - Gone

Any possible trades with these players?

 

[LukeHodge15]

Woosha got Stenglein two years ago and we traded McConnell & Green for picks last years. Not too bad.

Kasey Green was picked up in the draft wasnt he, not traded.

Woosha delisted him IIRC

 

[nobbyiscool]

Rowan Jones - Gone
Josh Wooden - Gone
Andrew McDougall - Gone

Any possible trades with these players?

i wouldn't imagine that any of them would fetch much- although i'm at a loss to explain the lack of opportunities for mcdougall. sure, he isn't the player that hansen, lynch, staker or graham are- but he's been ok with the opportunities he's gotten, and the few times i've seen him in the wafl late night on abc2 he's been good. maybe could fetch a high round 2- but unlikely.

jones is a premiership player- but i don't think he's worth anything more than a high round 3, therefore i don't think west coast would trade a loyal servant of the club.

wooden... if he gets delisted, its over...

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Rowan Jones - Gone
Josh Wooden - Gone
Andrew McDougall - Gone

Any possible trades with these players?

Rowan Jones was offered a new contract earlier this year.

I agree that McDougall should be shooped around.

Gardiner is gone.

Wooden will be moved on, and I reckon we should see what clubs are willing to offer for Matt Rosa.

 

[Monocle]

Rowan Jones was offered a new contract earlier this year.

I agree that McDougall should be shooped around.

Gardiner is gone.

Wooden will be moved on, and I reckon we should see what clubs are willing to offer for Matt Rosa.

Gunnar Why ????

 

[Boy from the West]

Rowan Jones was offered a new contract earlier this year.

I agree that McDougall should be shooped around.

Gardiner is gone.

Wooden will be moved on, and I reckon we should see what clubs are willing to offer for Matt Rosa.

Wooden may survive as he probably isn't attractive to other clubs and wants to stay in WA. What is the push to get rid of Rosa. He is only a second year recruit who has played more games than expected. Apepars to me to be developing nicely and we wouldn';t want to lose him like we did Mc Connell. The Eagles immediate delistings / trade baits are Gardy, Gaspar, Mc Dougall, Adkins and retirement of Matera(still on the list) and Banfield. That is 6 spots that need to be filled with draftees or trades incoming. That is about what they'll do.

 

[sinepari]

Why offer Rosa?

Bloody hard worker who is Embley's long-term replacement. That's straight out of an eagles mouth.

We lost McConnell last year, why lose another tall running player?

 

[Kreppsta.WC]

Rosa won't be going anywhere next year, only if it involves a trade for say Tarrent or Bradshaw. That's the only reason his name is being shopped.

Agree with BFTW in regards to Gardy, Gaspar, Doogs, Adkins.

I think Wooden might want out by now though. I saw a birth notice in todays West for a Josh Wooden. He might want to stay here if is him and a local girl.

 

[sinepari]

His girl his local and they did just have a baby.

 

[SouthSwans]

Rowan Jones - Gone
Josh Wooden - Gone
Andrew McDougall - Gone

Any possible trades with these players?

If any of them were a half decent KP defender I'd say yes. But two are no good midfielders and one is a hopeless KP forward.

 

[sinepari]

Wooden is far from no good. It's annoying the amount of bad press he gets.

McDougall, I still believe, could go to another club and dominate AFL. Time will tell. Personally though, I wouldn't expect much for him. Perhaps a pick upgrade.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Gunnar Why ????

Why offer Rosa?

Bloody hard worker who is Embley's long-term replacement. That's straight out of an eagles mouth.

I'm not saying Rosa should be delisted, but he's tradeable.

I think his trade value would be quite high, and if we were to go after a high-profile player, then Rosa would be a player I would offer in return.

If WC people are happy with only trading guys who haven't been playing, then that's fine. We're not big traders.

But if we're serious about going after somone who could slot into our best 22, then someone like Rosa will need to be put on the table.

 

[sinepari]

I'd rather lose Staker.

We can't afford to keep losing players like him.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

I'd rather lose Staker.

We can't afford to keep losing players like him.

Staker has been disappointing. I'd be prepared to trade him if we got offered something good in return.

But I don't think Rosa is such a valuable type. He's OK and has plenty of upside, but for the right price I'd be prepared to move him on.

I'm not saying we should desperately be looking to offload him. But I'd like to know what other clubs would give us in return. He's certainly not untradeable.

 

[Boy from the West]

While acknowledging that even the premier has to improve each season, clubs like us have grown through the draft and by maintaining depth - so that even when we have a run of injuries - there are players available to step in a do a short term job. That is where Josh Wooden fits in. 4 games a year and unlucky to be dropped but you know what you get from him. The young blokes we drafted - Morton, McKinley, Spangher, Rosa etc will be developed and given every opportunity. The expendables have been mentioned previously.

Patience boys.

 

[pafc4life]

Staker is certainly a player i'd be interested in

 

[UpTheGuts]

Having a guy like Morton in the wings of a premiership side is pretty darn impressive (and scary for the rest of us)

Cheers

 

[Ants]

Consider Hurn, Morton, Nicoski and Rosa weren't in the premiership side, and all would think they are good enough to be getting game time with other sides next year, plus whoever you draft this year, you might want to think about letting one or two of those spare midfielders go to improve your picks (like you did with McConnell last year).