Taz on the Couch

[Moo]

Just briefly -

Does Pav get the recognition he deserves?

Taz - No, rates him as the 2nd best player he has ever played with (Bucks being the first)

Best kid at Freo
Taz- Hill, amazing upside.

Just FYI guys.

 

[estibador]

Was just tossing up whether it was worth making a thread on this...

They also asked him what the main thing people over east underestimate about Freo and he answered that it was the professionalism of such a young group. Gave Harves a lot of credit for completely transforming the list.

 

[im_a_lazy_sod]

Left with a bit of bad blood on both sides but I think both the club and Taz have gotten over it - we can cover for him reasonably well and he didn't really have too much to get over

Pretty big respect for Pav given some of the players Taz has played with at the Pies - but Bucks is obviously the stand out

 

[masai]

Taz spoke quite well for a chap who seems to shy away from the media.

Seemed to be quite honest about his move from Collingwood to Freo, and accepted some of the blame for his downturn of performance at the time of his first move.

Seemed to mention Harves a couple of times in very positive ways. He made mention that Harves has turned the player group over in 2-3 years, and Harves accepted that it was hard but it was his fault if it failed.

 

[ImperialPurple]

Left with a bit of bad blood on both sides but I think both the club and Taz have gotten over it

is that what he said? That there was bad blood on both sides??

and Harves accepted that it was hard but it was his fault if it failed.

What failed? The list turnover? I am confused...

 

[Clay Davis]

What failed? The list turnover? I am confused...

He said that Harves took the risk to rebuild the list very quickly, and did so with the understanding that if he failed, he would be quickly out the door.

 

[dominguez]

What failed? The list turnover? I am confused...

Paul Roos - "What do we under rate at freo?"
Tarrant - "How professional they are for such a young group. Great credit to Harves he transformed the list so quickly with a big clean out and said if it doesn't work it's on my head."

 

[masai]

What failed? The list turnover? I am confused...

Sorry for confusing you IP, I was impressed with the way Taz seemed to be fully behind Harves and I saw little bad blood, if anything he was praising Harves for having the b...s to get things done.

 

[The Night Shift]

Left with a bit of bad blood on both sides but I think both the club and Taz have gotten over it - we can cover for him reasonably well and he didn't really have too much to get over

Pretty big respect for Pav given some of the players Taz has played with at the Pies - but Bucks is obviously the stand out

I didn't think there was bad blood when Tarrant left to go back to Collingwood. It's not like he pulled a Josh Carr plus we did end up with J. Anthony anyways..

 

[ImperialPurple]

I misread it and missed the "if". Carry on...

 

[im_a_lazy_sod]

I thought there was a little - mainly because of the way he went about it (oh and I didn't notice any evidence of any at all in the interview)

I think some of it also was Collingwood being hard arses on the trade table and not budging which didn't help

 

[theGav56]

I didn't think there was bad blood when Tarrant left to go back to Collingwood. It's not like he pulled a Josh Carr plus we did end up with J. Anthony anyways..

Tarrant decided he would only go to Collingwood and reduced our trading options to 1 club. If he was in our team this year we would be a shoe in for the top 4, with a bullet. He showed Harvey or the club no loyalty, and no favour. Yes he wanted to return to Melbourne for family reasons (marriage), but only agreeing to go to the Pies hurt us, no doubt at all.

Carr did us a favour by not agreeing to the 2 year deal Harvey apparently offered him; He was already finished as a player.

J. Anthony had nothing to do with the Tarrant trade apart from him realising that he had been bumped further down the ladder of opportunity due to Tarrant's recruitment.

 

[summerthebat]

Hearing him say 'Guoyyzzzz' 13 times per sentence was really starting to grind my gears.

 

[The Night Shift]

Tarrant decided he would only go to Collingwood and reduced our trading options to 1 club. If he was in our team this year we would be a shoe in for the top 4, with a bullet. He showed Harvey or the club no loyalty, and no favour. Yes he wanted to return to Melbourne for family reasons (marriage), but only agreeing to go to the Pies hurt us, no doubt at all.

Nothing is that certain. He was and is an increasing injury risk.

Carr did us a favour by not agreeing to the 2 year deal Harvey apparently offered him; He was already finished as a player.

Josh certainly did do us a favour by not signing, but he & Port did conspire so there was no trade.

J. Anthony had nothing to do with the Tarrant trade apart from him realising that he had been bumped further down the ladder of opportunity due to Tarrant's recruitment.

Which is why I typed we ended up with him anyways. Didn't say he was part of the trade.

 

[Nickos66]

Saw the story in the Worst this morning, was a pretty good read, I enjoyed it.

 

[theGav56]

Nothing is that certain. He was and is an increasing injury risk.

Tarrant is no more likely to be injured than when we traded for him I reckon.

Josh certainly did do us a favour by not signing, but he & Port did conspire so there was no trade.

Maybe, but in a similar way to Tarrant. Unless of course you are delusional and think Carr was worth something in a trade. Tarrant on the other hand left saying he wanted to do right by the Dockers, then refused to go anywhere else but the Pies. That is in another league to Carr.

Which is why I typed we ended up with him anyways. Didn't say he was part of the trade.

Oh that's fine. As you included it in why there is no "bad-blood" I assumed you thought they were related somehow. There is no doubt Tarrant/Pies stitched us up, then we did the same to the Pies.

I don't want to make any justifications for Carr, but I just can't see any damage from his loss. Tarrant going significantly impacts.

 

[dominguez]

I thought there was a little - mainly because of the way he went about it (oh and I didn't notice any evidence of any at all in the interview)

I think some of it also was Collingwood being hard arses on the trade table and not budging which didn't help

People over estimate the players role in trade week. If Mitch Clark at seasons end decides to come home but tells Chris Bond he'll only play for us if we trade the Lions 2 x top 20 picks Bondy will tell him to **** off and mind his own business.

 

[dominguez]

Tarrant decided he would only go to Collingwood and reduced our trading options to 1 club. If he was in our team this year we would be a shoe in for the top 4, with a bullet. He showed Harvey or the club no loyalty, and no favour. Yes he wanted to return to Melbourne for family reasons (marriage), but only agreeing to go to the Pies hurt us, no doubt at all.

I've never understood that gripe. I certainly wouldn't let my current employer decide who I work for next.

The fact that Collingwood low balled us has nothing to do with Taz just as it had nothing to do with him that we got shafted in '06. If he had come here for pick 8 or pick 88 it wouldn't have made a difference to the player, and quite often players would only care that a deal's been done and possibly wouldn't know what they were traded for.

 

[theGav56]

People over estimate the players role in trade week. If Mitch Clark at seasons end decides to come home but tells Chris Bond he'll only play for us if we trade the Lions 2 x top 20 picks Bondy will tell him to **** off and mind his own business.

Might also mention to him that if we did that, his chances of playing in a premiership side may have moved to Brisbane.

 

[Belnakor]

I don't have Foxtel at the moment...

however on the couch in general is the best footy show on tv atm by about 1000 times.

There any other way to get a copy of the episode on monday night?

Even the Taz interview would be nice.

 

[Belnakor]

People over estimate the players role in trade week. If Mitch Clark at seasons end decides to come home but tells Chris Bond he'll only play for us if we trade the Lions 2 x top 20 picks Bondy will tell him to **** off and mind his own business.

players do have a say, saying otherwise is just a cop out.

i remember when the gtrain left WCE for Saints, he told the Saints he would only go if the Coasters were happy with the picks on the table.

There is no way Freo would have been happy with the deal for Tarrant. The fact we ****ed them for Anthony is irrelevant.

 

[Quokka]

On The Couch is still the best footy show by miles, watching about 30 seconds of Hutchison, Thomas and Wilson is enough to remind me of that. Other thing I thought was interesting was Tarrant mentioning the difference in crowds.

Over here you're always playing infront of a full home crowd or a derby. The last Collingwood game had a lot of pies fans but what maybe 5000 max? and most away teams would have a lot less support than that. Where as in Melbourne you play in front of a lot more mixed crowds, your supporters, opposition's supporters and probably a few more nuetrals, mcc members etc.

Not sure one's better than the other but it would be different.

 

[ilpiantissimo]

Here you are Belnakor

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[Belnakor]

Your a star thanks alot

 

[theGav56]

I've never understood that gripe. I certainly wouldn't let my current employer decide who I work for next.

The fact that Collingwood low balled us has nothing to do with Taz just as it had nothing to do with him that we got shafted in '06. If he had come here for pick 8 or pick 88 it wouldn't have made a difference to the player, and quite often players would only care that a deal's been done and possibly wouldn't know what they were traded for.

It is more the way Tarrant did it. I thought he began by saying he would go to most clubs, then narrowed it to Collingwood. And anyway, I don't give a stuff about it really except that there is a massive double standard if someone thinks it is different to what happened with J Carr imo.

same-same, but same.