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Team Selection Policy In 2016

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Over the past 10-years, far too many players have been "gifted" games when they (a) have not genuinely earnt selection & (b) are not physically ready to play senior footy.

Based on the premise that we have just embarked on a three-year rebuild and realistically are no chance to win a premiership for some time yet, I'm hoping that the club also implements a selection policy to achieve greater results in the long-term.

There is nothing at all to be gained by dropping Weitering, McKay, Curnow, Cunningham & Silvagni in the deep end from Round 1 and leaving them there.

Let's face the reality of the situation, the gulf between U/18 football and AFL seniors is just too wide a gap for most young players to bridge. Most of these young players do not have the physical armour to protect themselves against players with 4-5 years worth of intense gym-work on their side. There is obviously the risk of injury plus the young players normally struggle to adapt to the tempo of senior footy as well.

We have just traded in Sumner, Lamb, Plowman, Phillips, Gorringe & Kerridge who have been in the AFL system for 3-4 years and are far more developed & ready to play senior football. They are the players that must be persisted with in 2016 on top of others like Jaksch, Graham, Whiley, Buckley, Boekhorst, Dick etc. They all need to be given the opportunity to play senior footy consistently because they are going to be under additional scrutiny going forward.

For the new kids, if they warrant selection, then by all means, give them a game against Melbourne or GWS etc, but make them earn it first. I don't want to see another situation like when Gibbs was placed in the leadership group before he had even played a game at the club.

Nurture these new guys in the seconds for a couple of years (let then play around 50-games in the VFL first) plus we will be adding another 3-4 newbies next year to join them in the seconds too. We also have Smith & Foster in need of some long-term development in the seconds as well.

We are all very excited about the latest draftees, let's not burn them out unnecessarily. Long-term strategy for sustained success, there is no hurry right now.

Who cares if we finish bottom four next year anyway, it opens us up to better draft picks next year as a bonus.
 
I agree, but by the end of round 1 I'm sure I will be furiously typing about how we need to play the kids.

We have little choice.................they're just about all kids. :)

Lots and lots of under 23's at this club now.
 
I agree, but by the end of round 1 I'm sure I will be furiously typing about how we need to play the kids.

All Blues fans have to look past the win/loss column, we must be purely focussed on player development, game-plan & team rules etc for the next two-years.

As they used to tell me whilst trekking in Nepal - "slowly slowly catchy monkey".
 

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All Blues fans have to look past the win/loss column, we must be purely focussed on player development, game-plan & team rules etc for the next two-years.

As they used to tell me whilst trekking in Nepal - "slowly slowly catchy monkey".
Ah yes, but at they say in China, dont use a hatchet to remove a fly from your friend's forehead.

Make of that what you will.
 
getting rid of the sub is a good thing. Giving a kid 20 minutes of game time held our youngsters back.
Nurture these new guys in the seconds for a couple of years (let then play around 50-games in the VFL first) plus we will be adding another 3-4 newbies next year to join them in the seconds too. We also have Smith & Foster in need of some long-term development in the seconds as well.

That will require cultural change and patience at board level, e.g. Holman, Giles, Reynolds and Johnson aren't at the club 24 months after being drafted. Nick Graham is the only survivor from a year earlier.

If you're going to be patient with youth then you equally need to clear out the old-timers rather than sacrifice 20 year old kids every two years.
 
getting rid of the sub is a good thing. Giving a kid 20 minutes of game time held our youngsters back.


That will require cultural change and patience at board level, e.g. Holman, Giles, Reynolds and Johnson aren't at the club 24 months after being drafted. Nick Graham is the only survivor from a year earlier.

If you're going to be patient with youth then you equally need to clear out the old-timers rather than sacrifice 20 year old kids every two years.

The board shouldn't have a say in what happens in the football department.

If that was the case, then we should of appointed Loguidice as coach too.
 
The board shouldn't have a say in what happens in the football department.

If that was the case, then we should of appointed Loguidice as coach too.
Well ultimately someone is approving these ridiculously long contracts to the likes of Thomas, Jones, Simpson and Walker.

I'd expect someone with sense high up to veto them but that hasn't been the case.
 
Play best 22 and integrate the kids.
I can see us playing 3-4 kids per round, surrounded by our more experienced players.
Within 3 years we will hopefully have between 25 & 40 games in our good kids.

It is easy to be patient when you see a bright future..
 
i agree shiek, & have great faith in bolton making the correct decisions in regarding this, as we are all on the same "journey"!;)
but, we also dont want the MM philosophy of not playing them just because they r young.
we might see a feeler for the padawans in the preseason to get an understanding of what is required at this level though.
 
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You're right..........they shouldn't but you know how it goes?
Everyone wants to be a recruiter....they want to be coach.......they want to be many things they aren't..........and that's where the problems start.

And that is exactly why we have been a basket-case for the past 20-years !!

We have made sweeping changes right across the club, let the people who have been appointed do their job.

"The question Who ought to be boss? is like asking 'Who ought to be the tenor in the quartet'? Obviously, the man who can sing tenor." - Henry Ford
 
No way is SOS playing in round 1 .

Zilch, Zippo, Zero.

Playing kids before they are physically/mentally ready to handle footy at the highest level can do more harm than good
 

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Play best 22 and integrate the kids.
I can see us playing 3-4 kids per round, surrounded by our more experienced players.
Within 3 years we will hopefully have between 25 & 40 games in our good kids.

It is easy to be patient when you see a bright future..

No Drake, you are dropping them in the deep end with that philosophy.

I don't want to see any of them in the seniors for two-years apart from a handful of guest appearances to gauge their development by.
 
No way is SOS playing in round 1 .

Zilch, Zippo, Zero.

Playing kids before they are physically/mentally ready to handle footy at the highest level can do more harm than good

100% correct DVB, we are investing in our future right now, let's not devalue what little stock we have.
 
The problem is if we are getting ten goal floggings every week (which is very possible) and we are playing players like Jones, White, Tutt over kids even though we know they don't figure in our future plans then it really doesn't give supporters much incentive to come watch.
If we're competitive play our best side if it turns out the same as last season then play the kids
 
Play best 22 and integrate the kids.
I can see us playing 3-4 kids per round, surrounded by our more experienced players.
Within 3 years we will hopefully have between 25 & 40 games in our good kids.

It is easIER to be patient when you see a bright future..
:thumbsu:
 
The problem is if we are getting ten goal floggings every week (which is very possible) and we are playing players like Jones, White, Tutt over kids even though we know they don't figure in our future plans then it really doesn't give supporters much incentive to come watch.
If we're competitive play our best side if it turns out the same as last season then play the kids
Exactly. MM's refusal to play Nicky G a case in point.
 
The problem is if we are getting ten goal floggings every week (which is very possible) and we are playing players like Jones, White, Tutt over kids even though we know they don't figure in our future plans then it really doesn't give supporters much incentive to come watch.
If we're competitive play our best side if it turns out the same as last season then play the kids
True but we aren't really in that position. We have plenty of 'new' faces to run out there who aren't first year players. There will be plenty of youth on show without us playing the draftees.
 

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Well said TS.
SOS said on SEN yesterday that there would be no pressure on any of kids we drafted on Tuesday night. It's all about the long game and we just have to get their development right.
 
The problem is if we are getting ten goal floggings every week (which is very possible) and we are playing players like Jones, White, Tutt over kids even though we know they don't figure in our future plans then it really doesn't give supporters much incentive to come watch.
If we're competitive play our best side if it turns out the same as last season then play the kids

That's why we traded for the GWS 4, we have players ready to serve as stop gap/depth options for a couple of years till our kids are ready to be regular starting 22 players.

Its astute list and coaching management by SOS and Bolts in my opinion.
 
i think JW will get games next year & CC will play some.
big mac if injuries take its toll may get a game, but the others will not
 
No Drake, you are dropping them in the deep end with that philosophy.

I don't want to see any of them in the seniors for two-years apart from a handful of guest appearances to gauge their development by.

Agree to disagree Sheik. For the first time in years we have drafted quality youngsters; we need to get games in to them. Not gifted; earned. You only get better with experience at the highest level. The amount of games can be managed as per how GWS, GC (to a lesser extent), the bullies have done it.

I would be concerned if after 3 years our youngsters have only played a handful of games. All other teams manage their youngsters and integrate them in to the system. It is not unrealistic to aim for 10-15 games per youngster (that earns it) so that after 3 years they can draw on their 25-40 games and we can push towards finals. You can't tell me that the big bodies of Curnow and Weitering couldn't sustain more than a handful of games per year?
 
The problem is if we are getting ten goal floggings every week (which is very possible) and we are playing players like Jones, White, Tutt over kids even though we know they don't figure in our future plans then it really doesn't give supporters much incentive to come watch.
If we're competitive play our best side if it turns out the same as last season then play the kids

NO !!!!!!

How the hell do you expect us to be instantly "competitive" when we finished on the bottom last year with the worst list in the league that is gradually being panel-beaten back into shape ??

We just need to see natural improvement in small increments, there is no sprinkling of magic dust & "wha-la", we are transformed into something completely different.

As for White, we just signed him for a further two-years so go figure that one ??

In regards to Jones & Tutt, well they were bought to the club via the Malthouse administration and we are paying biggish money for them, how about we get our pound of flesh from them whilst protecting our future at the same time ??

"it really doesn't give supporters much incentive to come watch" - well tell those supporters to **** off and go follow Richmond !!

If they are so goddam fickle that they cannot see the bigger picture right now then I don't think we need them now or in the future.

I can bet you this, they'll be the same ones jumping back on the bandwagon in 5-years time when we are braining it !!

Fairweather supporters, it's either all in now or all out now, you cannot pick & choose.
 
i think JW will get games next year & CC will play some.
big mac if injuries take its toll may get a game, but the others will not

They will all get a taste of senior footy at some stage, but they shouldn't be hung out to dry for prolonged periods at the same time.

Weitering will more than likely play Rd. 1 next year but the others should be debuting in the seconds.
 

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