The 2012 Summer Transfer Thread

[Pritchard]

Good news for those that hope Dzeko stays (including me).

On Modric, I value him at £25m max. The £40m Spurs asked last year was well over the odds, and he's now a year older, a year less left on his contract and he showed signs last season that if he is forced to stay at Spurs another year it might not be the best thing for their team.

Sahin probably worth £15m now.

Would be good if he does stay, proven goal scorer, only query is does he suit our game style?
Interesting to see what happens. Had heard rumours that he had sold up.

 

[Unfinished]

Net spend of about 50 million last year isnt a huge amount of money. We certainly dont have the kind of money that City and Chelsea have. Off the field, we are of course still up their with any team. On the field lately we have struggled. Hopefully we can turn that around.

That is a hell of a lot of money spent for a side that finished 8th.

You still have a bloody lot of money compared to a lot of clubs.

No your not up there anymore, and i personally dont think you can turn it around because of the way your squad has gone to the shit since the season you finished 7th with Xabi and Torres in form.

 

[Coledinho]

Guangzhou Evergrande owner Xu Jia Ying has apparently offered Wayne Rooney 325,000pounds a week to come and play in the Chinese league. Just waiting on a answer from Rooney's camp.

Sorry Mr Ying but have you heard of a thing called a contract? Yes if for some weird reason Rooney accepts do you have the 100million + that it will cost to buy him?

Dumb.

Guangzhou Evergrande are owned by a real estate group worth about 200 billion dollars (conservative estimate there). I think they can spare a 100 mill or so

Sahins value would of doubled because Real Madrid bought him at a bargain basement price thanks to a buyout clause in his contract. When Real bought him he was probably worth about 20-25 mill without the clause. If they sell him this season they will still make a profit. Should fetch 12-15 mill easily

 

[jd2010]

Guangzhou Evergrande are owned by a real estate group worth about 200 billion dollars (conservative estimate there). I think they can spare a 100 mill or so

Sahins value would of doubled because Real Madrid bought him at a bargain basement price thanks to a buyout clause in his contract. When Real bought him he was probably worth about 20-25 mill without the clause. If they sell him this season they will still make a profit. Should fetch 12-15 mill easily

I dont doubt that he is worth more than they paid, but realistically he is not wanted there meaning he will go for less than what he is worth

 

[jod23]

That is a hell of a lot of money spent for a side that finished 8th.

You still have a bloody lot of money compared to a lot of clubs.

No your not up there anymore, and i personally dont think you can turn it around because of the way your squad has gone to the shit since the season you finished 7th with Xabi and Torres in form.

So wwe can never turn it around and we will just continue to go backwards will we?

 

[Coledinho]

Net spend of about 50 million last year isnt a huge amount of money. We certainly dont have the kind of money that City and Chelsea have. Off the field, we are of course still up their with any team. On the field lately we have struggled. Hopefully we can turn that around.

It is when your teams wage bill eats up about 80% of the clubs revenue. That is the real problem. IIRC your 4th in the league for total wages spent in the whole league

Hell you spend a greater percentage of wages per revenue then Real Madrid, Barcelona, Man United and even Chelsea (something like 250 mill earnt, 170 mill on wages whereas Liverpool is like 170 mill revenue, 130 something wages)

 

[Coledinho]

So wwe can never turn it around and we will just continue to go backwards will we?

Not this season you cant, Its going to be a 3 year process of weeding out what you have and replacing them with more sustainable options and better players. Henderson, Adam, Downing were all bought to save on the wage bill. Henderson is on like 50k, Adam like 40k. Downing like 60-70k. Normally you spend 18 mill and your paying 100k+ in wages for that type of signing.

Hell Jamie Carragher earns over 90k a week.

 

[pantskyle]

So Ronaldo is sold for 90 million but Rooney is worth 100 million plus?

No his value would be around 60 million. Utd wouldnt sell him anyways. Rooney also would have no interest in playing in China.

Different circumstances. Ronaldo was always going to Madrid. With the size and length of Rooney's contract he won't go for less then 100million.

Ronaldo started the big prices, he should have cost double.

 

[jod23]

Different circumstances. Ronaldo was always going to Madrid. With the size and length of Rooney's contract he won't go for less then 100million.

Ronaldo started the big prices, he should have cost double.

Thats ridiculous dude. If he were to be sold it wouldnt be for anywhere near 100 million. 60 absolute tops. Even then that is probably too much.

 

[jod23]

Not this season you cant, Its going to be a 3 year process of weeding out what you have and replacing them with more sustainable options and better players. Henderson, Adam, Downing were all bought to save on the wage bill. Henderson is on like 50k, Adam like 40k. Downing like 60-70k. Normally you spend 18 mill and your paying 100k+ in wages for that type of signing.

Hell Jamie Carragher earns over 90k a week.

Perhaps 3 years to get amongst a title race, I dont think it takes 3 years to get back into the CL. Capable of top 4 this season providing we buy right. That's a big if though as last years purchases were mainly shit.

 

[pantskyle]

Thats ridiculous dude. If he were to be sold it wouldnt be for anywhere near 100 million. 60 absolute tops. Even then that is probably too much.

It would be closer to 100 then 60. He may not be worth that much but that's where it would be.

City would happily pay 100million for him. They offered like 60-80 a few years back for Kaka.

They would also pay 150million plus for Messi or Ronaldo.

 

[jod23]

Ok so if Rooney is worth over 100 million? What is RVP worth? Messi? Ronaldo? Neymar?

Rooney has never even won a golden boot.

 

[ADL9798]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...t-contains-targets-for-Manchester-United.html

His current deal takes him through to 2015, but this article is suggesting that if United doesn't meet certain 'targets' that he will be able to trigger a release clause for 30m. I have no idea what those 'targets' might be, but The Telegraph is usually pretty reliable with this sort of stuff.

If he didn't have those clauses in his contract, yes his actual worth may well be 50-60m in todays market, but you also have to take into consideration that United would want far more than market value before they will be willing to let him go, particularly considering he still has 3 years on his contract. Look at Liverpool with the sale of Torres, his actual value was probably close to the 35m that Chelsea initially bid for him but his worth to us was far greater than that so they held out until Chelsea offered nearly 30% more. It also depends on how desperate the buying club is to get the player, if Chelsea weren't 100% committed to Torres they may have moved on when a 35m bid was rejected, but they obviously were committed and hence were willing to pay big money for him.

All hypotheticals though, I can't really see him ever leaving United, I think the fuss over his last contract was probably largely down to wanting more money and maybe trying to scare the club into spending some of the money they had received for Tevez and Ronaldo.

 

[pantskyle]

No way it's at 30million.

Every player that is any good has increased value now.

I think Messi and Ronaldo are worth about 150million.

 

[moomba]

Rooney will never go for big money IMO. Will be 27 this year, looks the sort of player that will physically decline earlier than most, and I suspect wouldn't be willing to leave his comfort zone in the north west let alone England.

£50m max IMO if he was to be sold, but I can't see it happening any time soon.

 

[Cruyff14]

Kyle making a fool out of himself.

Nowhere near worth 100m.

 

[Magma]

new thread here:

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/the-2012-summer-transfer-thread-part-2.958773/