Opinion The 'Carlton related stuff that doesn't need it's own thread' thread Part 2

[agro]

gin & vin to be the next small collingwood forward to tear us up no doubt.............they keep finding these little shits...........

A lock down small defender would be nice - struggling to think of one since Matthew Hogg.

 

[Arr0w]

How often do you get a 20 possession chain leading to a score?

If you're involved in a scoring chain, you get a SI. I think it's a pretty good stat.

I think at times it can be irrelevant

Doc runs out of the defensive square to hit Saad 40 metres away, but over hits it and Cottrell makes it, who kicks it up the line to Harry who is out of position and punches it forward, Charlie gathers it on the full and kicks it to JSOS on the 50 metre arc on the boundary, who kicks a point, but Charlie had Martin completely in the clear 25 metres out. Each play gets a score assist

Then you have *, who have 7 handballs in the centre square, kick it around 7 times and finally score

The other thing it doesn't tell you, some players may not miss many targets, but due to others breaking the chain, none are credited with the assist, only an effective possession

 

[carlton_99]

A lock down small defender would be nice - struggling to think of one since Matthew Hogg.

If only we had one that has kept Papley and Cameron - the two best small forwards in the AFL - to a combined total of 8 goals in their last 3 meetings each (6 matches) against the Blues.

 

[Bennyboy7777]

A lock down small defender would be nice - struggling to think of one since Matthew Hogg.

I reckon we may have a player on our list who could fulfil this role: Cottrell. Very fast and has a massive tank. Great at defensive pressure and has mongrel about him. He’d do well on players like Cameron and Papley.

Small fwds with big leaps, like Liam Ryan and Jamie Elliott, he’d have trouble on. I reckon Gov would go better on them.

 

[Lace_Out]

Not sure cottell reads the play wall enough to anticipate his opponents next move.

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[Blue Reaper]

Rewatched the 99 prelim with MR BR junior #2 and was struck at the long precise sweeping handballs that opened up the opposition …. Just saying.

 

[myblueroan]

Rewatched the 99 prelim with MR BR junior #2 and was struck at the long precise sweeping handballs that opened up the opposition …. Just saying.

We prefer a circular ballet of handballs in ever tightening spirals reminiscent of a dying scene in Swan Lake.

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

Marlboro were crap ciggies.

As crap as Alpine (mums choice)

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

found him pretty harmless except for his stint on the rules committee.......

Responsible for the demise of the HTB rules, he and Geishen pretty much destroyed it…

 

[BringFevBack2021]

Kane reckons Sam Walsh

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Sam Walsh

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25

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184cm

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84kg

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Mid

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25.1

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13.5

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11.6

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5.1

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3.2

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3.4

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26.2

5star

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15.4

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10.8

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6.0

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3.2

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CL

4.8

5star

isn’t a damaging midfielder so far this year, comparing him to Touk Miller

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Touk Miller

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29

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178cm

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84kg

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21.7

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9.5

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12.3

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5.4

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4.2

5star

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22.0

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11.4

4star

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10.6

5star

M

2.9

3star

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4.8

5star

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4.1

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17.8

5star

K

5.8

3star

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12.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.0

5star

. They used Score Involvements as a metric, Walsh is averaging 7 a game which I think is pretty good, given that Petracca is at 8.7, Andy Bradshaw at 8.3 and Oliver at 7.5? For context, Touk is at 4, so I’m not sure that Walsh and Touk are in the same category.



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Whoops, sorry mods - didn't mean to post it in the game day thread, went blind with rage when I heard Kane's postulation that Walsh may not be damaging because he is only having 7 Score Involvements per game.

 

[Gethelred]

Kane reckons Sam Walsh isn’t a damaging midfielder so far this year, comparing him to Touk Miller. They used Score Involvements as a metric, Walsh is averaging 7 a game which I think is pretty good, given that Petracca is at 8.7, Andy Bradshaw at 8.3 and Oliver at 7.5? For context, Touk is at 4, so I’m not sure that Walsh and Touk are in the same category.



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Whoops, sorry mods - didn't mean to post it in the game day thread, went blind with rage when I heard Kane's postulation that Walsh may not be damaging because he is only having 7 Score Involvements per game.

Why are you even talking about him, linking his ideas for others to see? You know he goes away if you ignore him, right?

He is reliant on social media mentions to demonstrate his marketability. By linking to him, you get clicks on articles with his name on them, and you ensure his continued employment and status as a provocateur.

 

[BringFevBack2021]

Why are you even talking about him, linking his ideas for others to see? You know he goes away if you ignore him, right?

I actually don't mind the bloke just don't like when he goes after people for the sake of going after them.

i.e. Walsh, Ginnivan, Josh Kelly etc.

 

[Gethelred]

I actually don't mind the bloke just don't like when he goes after people for the sake of going after them.

i.e. Walsh, Ginnivan, Josh Kelly etc.

Well, I do. I find him boorish, his analysis poor and intended to get a rise out of you instead of any insight.

He's a postmodern journalist; it doesn't matter what's true or false, it's getting eyes on the page or the screen that matters.

 

[BringFevBack2021]

Well, I do. I find him boorish, his analysis poor and intended to get a rise out of you instead of any insight.

He's a postmodern journalist; it doesn't matter what's true or false, it's getting eyes on the page or the screen that matters.

Seems you’re the one biting on him more than I, perhaps you’d be best suited following your own advice and ignoring him?

I agree with your assessment to a degree though, probably best surmised as a contrarian.

Does provide good “four walls” type insight and controversial takes are more interesting and thought provoking than the drivel 95% of the AFL media spouts.

 

[thylacine60]

We do not look good here.

The time has arrived for professional sporting bodies to get real about their histories of child sex abuse

As survivors continue to come forward to tell their stories, it is surely time that major sporting institutions perform their own, unsparing investigations into historical child sexual abuse, writes Russell Jackson.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Garters]

Grim reading

 

[Gethelred]

Seems you’re the one biting on him more than I, perhaps you’d be best suited following your own advice and ignoring him?

But that's the thing: I am ignoring him. You'll have noticed I've not said his name once in these posts. I don't watch his shows, nor do I click on his articles or listen to radio stations which employ him. I have, insofar as I'm able, eliminated myself from his revenue streams.

When I see others having a whinge about him it makes me significantly more annoyed at them than I am at him. I thought that was what you were doing; if not, play on.

I agree with your assessment to a degree though, probably best surmised as a contrarian.

Does provide good “four walls” type insight and controversial takes are more interesting and thought provoking than the drivel 95% of the AFL media spouts.

I don't agree with any of that. Controversy manufactured for consumption isn't interesting or thought provoking, but to each their own I 'spose.

 

[Revenant1995]

We do not look good here.

The time has arrived for professional sporting bodies to get real about their histories of child sex abuse

As survivors continue to come forward to tell their stories, it is surely time that major sporting institutions perform their own, unsparing investigations into historical child sexual abuse, writes Russell Jackson.

www.abc.net.au

I feel this article is not 100% accurate. The situation at Footscray as recently reported is directly related to the club. 'Little League' was a separate group that utilised the names of existing clubs. This is not to deny or minimise harm caused. Nor does it obviate clubs responsibility insofar as they were willing to accept other entities using their name. As a person who has had family members affected by sexual abuse, I am sensitive to these issues. But I think there are some good insights in existing thread.

News - 1970s Little League Scandal *Warning, might be confronting for some. Be respectful

I urge discretion for those sensitive to matters relating to abuse. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-05/afl-scandal-widens-paedophile-coach-carlton-john-dennis-morice/100187148 This is something significant at multiple levels. As I have mentioned, I have extended family who have...

www.bigfooty.com

 

[BringFevBack2021]

But that's the thing: I am ignoring him. You'll have noticed I've not said his name once in these posts. I don't watch his shows, nor do I click on his articles or listen to radio stations which employ him. I have, insofar as I'm able, eliminated myself from his revenue streams.

When I see others having a whinge about him it makes me significantly more annoyed at them than I am at him. I thought that was what you were doing; if not, play on.

I don't agree with any of that. Controversy manufactured for consumption isn't interesting or thought provoking, but to each their own I 'spose.

Fair call! Can't agree, so agree to disagree. More than reasonable opinions though, have a great one.

 

[thylacine60]

Well, I do. I find him boorish, his analysis poor and intended to get a rise out of you instead of any insight.

He's a postmodern journalist; it doesn't matter what's true or false, it's getting eyes on the page or the screen that matters.

did not expect to see that word used here..........

 

[ams4crows]

Hey everyone, was just wondering what the deal is with the cut/burn /nasty looking scar on the front of Harry McKay

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Harry Mckay

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27

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200cm

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2.4

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5.5

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1.6

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1.4

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6.6

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4.6

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2.0

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3.6

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1.4

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1.4

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8.8

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6.8

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2.0

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4.4

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0.8

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2.0

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's right shoulder? Sometimes in games he wears a patch on it other time he doesn't.

Is that from a recent surgery? Does anyone know how it happened or what it actually is?

 

[thylacine60]

he and ben were formerly siamese twins joined at the shoulder...........

 

[Doro]

Hey everyone, was just wondering what the deal is with the cut/burn /nasty looking scar on the front of Harry McKay's right shoulder? Sometimes in games he wears a patch on it other time he doesn't.

Is that from a recent surgery? Does anyone know how it happened or what it actually is?

He missed the last 2 games last year with a high grade a.c injury and went in for surgery. Was constantly grabbing at it in the few games leading up to then.

 

[myblueroan]

Hey everyone, was just wondering what the deal is with the cut/burn /nasty looking scar on the front of Harry McKay's right shoulder? Sometimes in games he wears a patch on it other time he doesn't.

Is that from a recent surgery? Does anyone know how it happened or what it actually is?

Wondered that too.
Cupping gone wrong?

 

[Lace_Out]

Just a scar.

He probably picks at it and or it has reacted to the tape over the coarse.

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