The Farcical Buddy Rule

[Rioli magic]

OF last year Buddy was having a shot as he was running and went off the line the umpire called play on at which time T West moved in to smother the kick when the umpire then paid 50 to Buddy why? Because it was Buddy

Yeah, everyone knows Buddy gets an armchair ride from the umpires.

 

[Brown n Gold]

How many umpires does it take to figure out a guy is running 30 degrees off his line?

There is nothing in the rules to make an allowance for natural arc, if you can't run in a straight line it is your own problem. He seems to be able to run in a straight line when he is on the other pocket.

Runs in a straight line in the other pocket?????

How about you watch a game before having a sook...

 

[Squida25]

Why not allow every player to have a 'natural arc' as big as Franklins?

Because that would seem ridiculous having every player running off the mark, so why allow it for 1 player?

 

[Brown n Gold]

Great goal this one... everyone happy with the arc??

[YOUTUBE]Z7WEB_iftz4[/YOUTUBE]

 

[djboonie]

Why not allow every player to have a 'natural arc' as big as Franklins?

Because that would seem ridiculous having every player running off the mark, so why allow it for 1 player?

Steven Milne has an arc doesn't get called.

 

[djboonie]

Great goal this one... everyone happy with the arc??

Mmm, so the umpire didn't call play on... Is that a natural arc for Jimmy? Never seen that before. If it was natural fair enough, but that was only to try and get the carry... Cheat!

 

[Brown n Gold]

Mmm, so the umpire didn't call play on... Is that a natural arc for Jimmy? Never seen that before. If it was natural fair enough, but that was only to try and get the carry... Cheat!

Actually worse than Franklin, because Franko does it on both sides of the ground.

 

[Squida25]

There's a difference between Milne's/Bartel's or anyone else's kicking arc and Franklin's, you're kidding yourself if you say otherwise.

Buddy's arc is bigger (much bigger) than anyone elses, either allow everyone to go that far off the mark or no one.

 

[jacko57]

yes, because you can hear the ump say "Leigh, back 2m" when watching the replay

he says it several times, and probably would have let it go had he not lunged forward

it is the obstruction of a set-kick which is being penalised

once again, franklin isn't the only player with an arc (nab cup game he had played on) but for whatever reason, the world fixates on him

'for whatever reason'???

Might that reason be brain-dead Gieschen declaring that the laws don't apply to Buddy because of his so-called natural arc?

 

[Brown n Gold]

There's a difference between Milne's/Bartel's or anyone else's kicking arc and Franklin's, you're kidding yourself if you say otherwise.

Buddy's arc is bigger (much bigger) than anyone elses, either allow everyone to go that far off the mark or no one.

Kade Simpson has a decent arc, Ryan Griffen has a massive arc.

Facts are players are allowed to have an arc by the umps, Collingwood tried putting a player 5m to Franklins left to try to effect his kick, if Franklin comes out 2m he is still 3m away, if that player makes one move towards Franklin it's 50m... so teams stopped trying this tactic..

I think we have clarified that the rule is not assisting Buddy as it equally hurts the angle when kicking from the other side. I think a few out there need to stop trying to chop the tall poppy.

 

[The_Wookie]

Kade simpson has an arc when he plays on, not when he takes a free kick or mark.

 

[Brown n Gold]

[YOUTUBE]5SzKbGrXpSw[/YOUTUBE]

possibly the biggest arc of all time, not called play on....

 

[SnowRoo]

Where a Player is Kicking for a Goal after being awarded
a Mark or a Free Kick, the Kick shall be taken along a
direct line from the mark to the centre of the Goal Line.

Since we have argued that direct does not equal straight, can an umpire move Buddy to the fence every time he takes a shot. The ump can claim its his natural arc in setting the mark and direct isnt straight.

 

[djboonie]

No point continuing this discussion.

Does Buddy run in a straight line when he kicks for goal? No.
Do other players also do it? Yes.
Is it up to the Umpires to police it? Yes
Has the AFL looked at this and made a judgement? Yes
Does the Laws of The Game state that the rule should be interpreted differently for Lance Franklin? No

Move along muppets.

Other points worth mentioning. Some players only do it to open up the angle. That is unnatural.

 

[giantroo]

Right on. He had about 20 meters of prior opportunity. He was tackled. hTB was the right call.

Great closing speed by Mullet too!

Yep. Great chase, At least he isn't another slouch like Cale Hooker!!

 

[mollyfud]

[YOUTUBE]5SzKbGrXpSw[/YOUTUBE]

possibly the biggest arc of all time, not called play on....

Dude, how silly are you? When do you get off thinking that evidence can be used to prove something?

 

[Final Siren]

Dude, how silly are you? When do you get off thinking that evidence can be used to prove something?

Yes, case closed, guys. We have evidence that at least one other player has gotten away with this one time, so therefore there is nothing wrong with Buddy's permanent exemption.

 

[mollyfud]

Yes, case closed, guys. We have evidence that at least one other player has gotten away with this one time, so therefore there is nothing wrong with Buddy's permanent exemption.

Dude, I have showed over & over & over & over again in this thread evidence against peoples claims (like he not having the arc when he is on the side that it disadvantages him and that the AFL have blessed it and said it wont just be interpreted for him) but people ignore it!

 

[Chewy]

Surely, surely, if that was any other player that would have been play on? Not even the greatest player to play the game in Wayne Carey got that much leniency.

Leigh Matthews was better than Wayne Carey

Carey played forward for his entire career and kicked a total of 727 goals
Played in 2 premierships and won 4 best and fairests

Matthews was a rover who rested up forward (played full forward for 3-4 years) and kicked a total of 941 goals
Played in 4 premierships and won 8 best and fairests

There is no contest...

The only people who think Carey > Matthews are North fans and Mike Sheahan. Dimwits. End of story.

And no other player is allowed to move right or left or else it's given play on. Just a farce that one player in the whole competition is given more rights than others just because he cant run up straight.

This is total bullshit. Why do people insist on making this all about Buddy? Nearly every player in the AFL will run off his line when going for extra distance. Unless the umpire deems him to be playing on, he will allow the player some leeway.

 

[cleomenes]

There is more to this than Franklin. Surely every player on the boundary in the pocket who steps away from the line to goal so that he can run up at right angles to that line and into the field should be told to play on. He has moved off the line. If time on is called the player should have to kick over the mark in all circumstances. They do, after all, get a lot more time to take a set shot than a player up the field gets for his kick. If they arre allowed 30 seconds for a set shot, then a set shot it has to be.

The backline players who routinely move sideways from the line from the mark to the attacking goal should likewise be told to play on immediately. No exceptions.

That would remove the stupid (in the sense that they shouldn't be paid) 50 m penalties when the man guarding the mark moves sideways to cover the direction that the kicker is clearly going to move.

And while they are about it, the duckers should be left to take the injuries that their reckless acts expose them to, with no free kick.

 

[Beerfish]

I'm surprised more Hawthorn posters aren't supportive of scrapping the Buddy rule since it's been stated it would probably improve his kicking. What Hawk supporter wouldn't want to see that?

 

[tazhawk]

I'm surprised more Hawthorn posters aren't supportive of scrapping the Buddy rule since it's been stated it would probably improve his kicking. What Hawk supporter wouldn't want to see that?

Not as much as we want to see the rule that every time Buddy gets tackled (even though he handballs the ball ) he gets pinged for holding it.

Then they can scrap the Buddy rule that says as soon as he lays a finger on anyone its an automatic fee kick against him.

Fix this then the AFL can work on the arc.

 

[giantroo]

Leigh Matthews was better than Wayne Carey

Carey played forward for his entire career and kicked a total of 727 goals
Played in 2 premierships and won 4 best and fairests

Matthews was a rover who rested up forward (played full forward for 3-4 years) and kicked a total of 941 goals
Played in 4 premierships and won 8 best and fairests

There is no contest...

The only people who think Carey > Matthews are North fans and Mike Sheahan. Dimwits. End of story.

7 pages down and now you came to argue about this. Can you remind me what the point of the thread was again?

This is total bullshit. Why do people insist on making this all about Buddy? Nearly every player in the AFL will run off his line when going for extra distance. Unless the umpire deems him to be playing on, he will allow the player some leeway.

Why, because every one knows there is a Buddy Rule? Do you hear about any other player with their own rule?

 

[Leather Poisoning]

Why, because every one knows there is a Buddy Rule? Do you hear about any other player with their own rule?

This thread shows quite a few examples of other players running off the direct line and not being called play on.

It basically means that anyone referring to it as the Buddy Rule is being a little bit ignorant.

 

[giantroo]

This thread shows quite a few examples of other players running off the direct line and not being called play on.

It basically means that anyone referring to it as the Buddy Rule is being a little bit ignorant.

That would be just about every footy commentator....