Mega Thread The Flat Earth Mega thread.

[exe ex machina]

This is a real sign! a place i must visit it seems. I think i might send cannot here to do some investigations


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Must be like a real world Escherian Stairwell.

 

[Nothing]

Why would comets be a difficult thing in flat earth? Comets moons stars etc still orbit as they do, just the earth is flat. Geocentricity or not.

OK, it's hard to tell what current thought process FE are going through. One of them was that the sun, which the comets orbit, is only 3100km away and that the moon is a similar distance.

So now you are saying that the FE orbits the sun, along with the other planets and comets. But unlike the other planets comets the earth is flat, whilst everything else is not.

I thought geocentricity was a key tenet of FE.

 

[exe ex machina]

OK, it's hard to tell what current thought process FE are going through. One of them was that the sun, which the comets orbit, is only 3100km away and that the moon is a similar distance.

So now you are saying that the FE orbits the sun, along with the other planets and comets. But unlike the other planets comets the earth is flat, whilst everything else is not.

I thought geocentricity was a key tenet of FE.

Sorry, geocentricity is a key tenet of FE.

So, yeah, if a comet is orbiting the sun, and the sun is orbiting the earth, then eventually these comets on their elliptical orbits would come around in view of the flat stationary earth.

I don't see comets and such being a flat earth debunker. Given that FE says the whole galaxy of stars is spinning around the earth too....which DOES make sense (if you saw that excellent DMurphy25 video I posted above).

 

[Nothing]

Sorry, geocentricity is a key tenet of FE.

So, yeah, if a comet is orbiting the sun, and the sun is orbiting the earth, then eventually these comets on their elliptical orbits would come around in view of the flat stationary earth.

I don't see comets and such being a flat earth debunker. Given that FE says the whole galaxy of stars is spinning around the earth too....which DOES make sense (if you saw that excellent DMurphy25 video I posted above).

But the comet doesn't orbit earth, the path is accurately plotted and it orbits the sun.

I am done with youtube videos. I don't want to waste my bandwidth rewarding this charlatans. I would be happy to read YOUR thoughts (and everyoneelses in these threads) but youtube videos don't actually add any weight to your argument. Most of them are scientifically illiterate lacking basic understanding of some easily observable principles. I've watched a lot of your vids and they almost always lack credibility or mistake something then extrapolate from a false tenet.

Comets don't work in FE.
Constellations don't work in FE.
The sun doesn't really work in FE.
There's a whole lot that doesn't work in FE.

 

[Procrastinator35]

But the comet doesn't orbit earth, the path is accurately plotted and it orbits the sun.

I am done with youtube videos. I don't want to waste my bandwidth rewarding this charlatans. I would be happy to read YOUR thoughts (and everyoneelses in these threads) but youtube videos don't actually add any weight to your argument. Most of them are scientifically illiterate lacking basic understanding of some easily observable principles. I've watched a lot of your vids and they almost always lack credibility or mistake something then extrapolate from a false tenet.

Comets don't work in FE.
Constellations don't work in FE.
The sun doesn't really work in FE.
There's a whole lot that doesn't work in FE.

You need to recognize that the Flat Earth thesis begins & ends from the human perspective, here on earth, based upon our perceptions of phenomena from there....Whereas, Heliocentricism begins & ends from an abstract, universal conception.....From our earthly position it's difficult to argue with the Flat Heads on a sensical level alone....The trick turns upon the differences in human perceptions emanating from our senses from our earthly base, & human conceptions of how things 'actually are' in contradistinction to how they 'seem'.....Parmenides is an excellent philosopher who extrapolates well upon this very distinction.

 

[exe ex machina]

But the comet doesn't orbit earth, the path is accurately plotted and it orbits the sun.

I am done with youtube videos. I don't want to waste my bandwidth rewarding this charlatans. I would be happy to read YOUR thoughts (and everyoneelses in these threads) but youtube videos don't actually add any weight to your argument. Most of them are scientifically illiterate lacking basic understanding of some easily observable principles. I've watched a lot of your vids and they almost always lack credibility or mistake something then extrapolate from a false tenet.

Comets don't work in FE.
Constellations don't work in FE.
The sun doesn't really work in FE.
There's a whole lot that doesn't work in FE.

The North star remaining perfectly fixed in perpetuity with all other stars perfectly circling around it, and all identically viewed on planet earth. Doesn't make sense that the earth is not only rotating at 1,000mph, but also orbiting the sun at even faster speed, whilst the sun is flying even faster thru space whilst all these stars are apparently still beaming their light from millions of years ago, whilst the entire galaxy is hurtling even faster thru an ever-expanding universe...yet somehow these stars/constellations remain PERFECTLY FIXED to our observation.

There's a whole lot that doesn't work with the heliocentric model either.

 

[IronMike]

If the Earth was flat there would still be a massive nuclear arms race going on right now. By now they'd probably be pushing 200+ megatons.

The reason Russia never mass produced the Tsar Bomba (57 megaton), and why the yield of nuclear bombs hasn't increased over the decades, is because of the earths curvature. Once you reach a certain explosion radius, it will simply blast out tangentially into space.
I have tried to illustrate this with my amateur paint skills:

This is why America never even bothered to create a bomb as big as the Tsar Bomba, even though they were otherwise unyielding in the dick measuring contests of the Cold War. The Tsar Bomba was simply an extravagant fireworks show created to let the world know they meant business, Russian style.
In reality both sides knew that bombs that size were far too inefficient due to the earths curvature, and 2-3 smaller (10-15 megaton) bombs were much more effective.

Also, If the Earth was flat, the 2000+ nuclear tests that have been conducted over the decades would have been seen by a lot more people than has been the case in reality.

 

[IronMike]

Also, I haven't had the time to read through this whole thread but who's in on this so called flat earth deception? Every country? Russia, China, North Korea too? In WW2 was Hitler in on it too?
Because If I was Adolf Hitler, or Joseph Stalin, or even Kim Jong-un, the first thing I would do before going to war would be to reveal this flat Earth deception to the people of America and it's Allies. Through TV, radio, newspaper, internet, magazine, flyers, posters, word of mouth, and whatever means possible. Which wouldn't be hard to fund with the massive military expenditure allowed during war. This would cause mass pandemonium and chaos amongst the enemies populace, probably then leading to a revolt and rebellion of some sort. It would be an almost instant check-mate.

This is the problem with these 'all in' conspiracies. Where all the elites from all major countries are supposed to be in on the deception. It is on the assumption that they are all willing to cooperate together all the time. It just won't happen. There has been genuine bad blood amongst these major countries, and the blood of millions has been spilt throughout history.

 

[exe ex machina]

Also, I haven't had the time to read through this whole thread but who's in on this so called flat earth deception? Every country? Russia, China, North Korea too? In WW2 was Hitler in on it too?
Because If I was Adolf Hitler, or Joseph Stalin, or even Kim Jong-un, the first thing I would do before going to war would be to reveal this flat Earth deception to the people of America and it's Allies. Through TV, radio, newspaper, internet, magazine, flyers, posters, word of mouth, and whatever means possible. Which wouldn't be hard to fund with the massive military expenditure allowed during war. This would cause mass pandemonium and chaos amongst the enemies populace, probably then leading to a revolt and rebellion of some sort. It would be an almost instant check-mate.

This is the problem with these 'all in' conspiracies. Where all the elites from all major countries are supposed to be in on the deception. It is on the assumption that they are all willing to cooperate together all the time. It just won't happen. There has been genuine bad blood amongst these major countries, and the blood of millions has been spilt throughout history.

You need to read up on who funded and backed Hitler's war, and who indeed really wrote Mein Kampf.

 

[Procrastinator35]

It's funny how the ways & why-fors & in which posters attempt to debunk the FE thesis says so much about them.

I'm happy with Newtonian explanations insofar as our own solar-system is concerned....But anything beyond that is just pure speculation IMO....Which is why Einstein was able to get away with so much bullshit....And so many contemporary quantum physicists ever since.

 

[Werewolf]

 

[exe ex machina]

Look, there's certainly a truth to that. There are a lot of FE channels where the person is an idiot, or making idiotic and/or badly errant claims. But also FE channels where the person is deliberately doing those things so as to broadly attract discredit to the Truther movements. But remember, why would agencies/people even WANT to try to attract discredit to Truther movements unless there were elements of truth in them. Again, there are more than Truther movement, and they're NOT all inter-related. 9/11 has nothing to do with Flat Earth, etc. Sometimes one or two can directly or indirectly link. Like NASA fakery and Flat Earth movement. But to just say there's an "astro-turfing" happening does not mean the Flat Earth concept, or even the Geocentric concept, are therefore false. Take Flat Earth....that's been there since the birth of mankind. Thru each culture, each epoch of mankind. It's not some new thing, and not some new thing invented to discredit Truthers per se who are say fighting the 9/11 battle.

 

[NEGAN]

You need to read up on who funded and backed Hitler's war, and who indeed really wrote Mein Kampf.

Hitler didn't want war, it was Churchill.

Sorry off topic.

 

[Total Power]

I'm happy with Newtonian explanations insofar as our own solar-system is concerned....But anything beyond that is just pure speculation IMO....Which is why Einstein was able to get away with so much bullshit....And so many contemporary quantum physicists ever since.

Tell me more about what you understand about QP or QT? A bloke who doesnt even understand the very basic science is now talking about QP? i think you should pm darthbards, you two can enjoy a cracker of a discussion with all the pseudo science you guys believe in.

Do you actually understand the difference between predictions and conclusions in a scientific theory?

 

[katana]

The reason Russia never mass produced the Tsar Bomba (57 megaton)

honest question, what's the best evidence you have that this bomb exists?

 

[cannot]

You need to read up on who funded and backed Hitler's war, and who indeed really wrote Mein Kampf.

you cant say jesuit or soceity of jesus, otherwise Total Power has a meltdown

 

[exe ex machina]

you cant say jesuit or soceity of jesus, otherwise Total Power has a meltdown

Yeah I was trying to be discreet about it

 

[cannot]

Yeah I was trying to be discreet about it

i noticed that

cool as a cumcumber

 

[exe ex machina]

i noticed that

cool as a cumcumber

Either or just an ordinary cucumber

 

[Procrastinator35]

you cant say jesuit or soceity of jesus, otherwise Total Power has a meltdown

That & a plethora of many other 'trigger' words.

 

[exe ex machina]

That & a plethora of many other 'trigger' words.

Quantum Jesuits...for the killer blow

 

[exe ex machina]

Am gonna trademark that

 

[cannot]

Quantum Jesuits...for the killer blow

from the holographic, simulated universe ..

Am gonna trademark that

outstanding band or horse name

 

[Procrastinator35]

Quantum Jesuits...for the killer blow

Now there's a leap of faith.

Lets see now: Monotheistic, Creationist, Flat Earth Bound, cosmic hippie.

 

[exe ex machina]

from the holographic, simulated universe ..



outstanding band or horse name

Let's buy a horse and race it