Mega Thread The Flat Earth Mega thread.

[CJApples87]

what would Occam's razor say of it ?

ive heard the old greeks guys maths would work out the same (similar) if the sun were smaller and closer, perhaps jarred can debunk

https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-t...14-ways-the-flat-earth-theory-is-false.t7148/

Please go through this article that J2S posted and tell us where it is wrong.


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[Judd2Sewell]

As I stated in another post the same thing has happened recently with fish,takeaway Chinese and duck. If it was just the pork belly,yes,it could be a coincidence,but I have given four seperate example. This can no longer be considered a coincidence and should classify as evidence. I have not asked or spoken of these dishes in any instance before their presentation to me.
Not proof though,I cannot state as fact that I'm magic. I can supply a theory though with supporting evidence that suggests I could be.

Once again - look up those two words and then compare them to one another. No matter how many times you predict your dinner it's not magic.

The only thing that is evidence for is your lunacy... Or that you're a succulent idiot.

And there is a sentence I never thought I'd have to type out.

 

[Watchyourwaite]

Proof for Gravity please?

Refer to the several posts ive made answering this exact same question. If you disagree or see any fault with them let me know. Otherwise accept that your weaksauce trawl isnt catching any big game.

 

[NEGAN]

Proof for Gravity please?

While you are absolutely correct in that gravity is a theory.

There is more evidence for the theory of gravity then an alternative.


The alternative being?

Flat Earth moves in an upwards direction of 6m per/sec/per sec

 

[darthbards]

While you are absolutely correct in that gravity is a theory.

There is more evidence for the theory of gravity then an alternative.


The alternative being?

Flat Earth moves in an upwards direction of 6m per/sec/per sec

I don't agree with the flat earth model being presented in its current format and have doubts on its upward projection theory

 

[NEGAN]

I don't agree with the flat earth model being presented in its current format and have doubts on its upward projection theory?

This is the problem with having a flat earth belief and why I have never jumped on it. Flat Earth does have its merits but ....

It has to be air tight before taking on such accepted theories.

 

[darthbards]

Uh oh, cannot has been called out again and is stuck in the poo. Luckily a darthbards appears. Darthbards uses change conversation again.

It isnt very effective.

I haven't changed the conversation at all,I was asked to provide evidence I was magic and I have provided four examples that your crowd have deemed coincidence. I have not claimed this is proof though,nor was I asked to supply proof,I was asked to supply evidence.

Refer to the several posts ive made answering this exact same question. If you disagree or see any fault with them let me know. Otherwise accept that your weaksauce trawl isnt catching any big game.

Are you willing to state that it's impossible that
1. There is a seperate force mimicking the effects of gravity.
2. That there is a force from a repulsion created from a nearby world or parallel universe,that could lead to the results from the keyboard dropping and jumping experiments.

You have not answered the gravity question at all. You were not asked to supply evidence for Gravity,or a theory. You were asked to supply proof. You have then gone forward and supplied evidence. You have therefore dodged the question.

Also,have you bothered to watch the video or links provided in the op? You have not answered this question.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Hrmm I've pondered this further and have come up with conclusive proof that the earth is flat:

Now what happens when you roll a ball down a hill? It picks up speed. So it stands to reason that if the earth was actually a sphere - like the illuminati would have you believe - then we would constantly be moving at a faster and faster pace. In fact we would keep picking up speed until we were infact perpetual motion incarnate.

Now couple this flawless logic with the fact I predict I'm having pizza tonight (but discount the fact I purchased all of the ingredients yesterday). Also, pizza bases are flat. Now I have catagorically confirmed that not only the earth is flat but I will now confirm that magic is real.

You see the words magic and logic are actually the same and it is in fact the illuminati that have distorted the truth. Here is my proof; and it's ingeniously hidden in the words themselves - the word magic and logic are similar, in fact the only difference between magic and logic are the letters 'm' and 'a.'

Now write down the letters M and A in capitals... What shapes do those two letters look like?

Yes, I can hear all of your pennies drop (not because of gravity though) now.

Illuminati, flat earth and magic confirmed!

 

[darthbards]

This is the problem with having a flat earth belief and why I have never jumped on it. Flat Earth does have its merits but ....

It has to be air tight before taking on such accepted theories.

Agreed.
Do you think Gravity could be considered a religious belief that is universally held?

 

[darthbards]

Hrmm I've pondered this further and have come up with conclusive proof that the earth is flat:

Now what happens when you roll a ball down a hill? It picks up speed. So it stands to reason that if the earth was actually a sphere - like the illuminati would have you believe - then we would constantly be moving at a faster and faster pace. In fact we would keep picking up speed until we were infact perpetual motion incarnate.

Now couple this flawless logic with the fact I predict I'm having pizza tonight (but discount the fact I purchased all of the ingredients yesterday) and I have catagorically confirmed that not only the earth is flat but I will now confirm that magic is real.

You see the words magic and logic are actually the same and it is in fact the illuminati that have distorted the truth. Here is my proof; and it's ingeniously hidden in the words themselves - the word magic and logic are similar, in fact the only difference between magic and logic are the letters 'm' and 'a.'

Now write down the letters M and A in capitals... What shapes do those two letters look like?

Yes, I can hear all of your pennies drop (not because of gravity though) now.

Illuminati, flat earth and magic confirmed!

You have interfered with the pizza though by purchasing the ingredients,your interaction subtracts substantially from your evidence in theorising magic.
Are you being deliberately mischievous via that comment?

 

[Judd2Sewell]

You have interfered with the pizza though by purchasing the ingredients,your interaction subtracts substantially from your evidence in theorising magic.
Are you being deliberately mischievous via that comment?

I'll let you work it out

 

[darthbards]

I'll let you work it out

I believe you have.
I believe that using interference to reach a desired conclusion is poor form.
Science should be used to place together evidence in an untainted manner to piece together the correct story that shall one day benifited us all,not the story we most wish to be true.
Deliberately altering an independent variable to come up with the answers we desire only makes science a religion in itself.

 

[Reppie]

If gravity is causing the oceans tides it would affect rivers and lakes also.
Yet it doesn't.

 

[Heisenberg_]

If gravity is causing the oceans tides it would affect rivers and lakes also.
Yet it doesn't.

How so?

 

[Reppie]

How so?

Well if the moon is influencing the oceans tides it would affect all bodies of water surely.

 

[cannot]

While you are absolutely correct in that gravity is a theory.

There is more evidence for the theory of gravity then an alternative.


The alternative being?

Flat Earth moves in an upwards direction of 6m per/sec/per sec

gee whiz why dont you make a thread on the science board

it will be explained to you the issues with the magik gravity theory

like some other theories its flawed

 

[NEGAN]

gee whiz why dont you make a thread on the science board

it will be explained to you the issues with the magik gravity theory

like some other theories its flawed

I think if you read my post clearly I say its only a theory.

It's definitely one I am willing to explore.

But the problem and the only problem I have with your discussion is...

What's your alternative?

You could say gravity is magic, and I would not argue with you given the physics of it don't quite add up. But you have nothing better.

 

[NEGAN]

I'll even go to bat for you,

If the theory of gravity in its purist form were correct our moon should be orbiting the sun.

But if you are like some including myself that subscribe to the moon is evidence of intelligent design well that's a topic for another thread another day.

 

[darthbards]

I think if you read my post clearly I say its only a theory.

It's definitely one I am willing to explore.

But the problem and the only problem I have with your discussion is...

What's your alternative?

You could say gravity is magic, and I would not argue with you given the physics of it don't quite add up. But you have nothing better.

I've carried out two experiments in the last 24 hours at the request of the gravity boys.
I have offered two alternate explanations to them for further discussion and have received no response. This does not include the flat earth upward propulsion theory that I also offered,but as discussed,am sceptical about

I have also asked for proof of gravities existence but have only been offered theory,dressed up as proof,in response.
One theory suggested I cannot fly,which I strongly believe is a genetical factor,more so than gravity,and I have also been given no response to my counter question regarding why birds can fly.

 

[darthbards]

I'll even go to bat for you,

If the theory of gravity in its purist form were correct our moon should be orbiting the sun.

But if you are like some including myself that subscribe to the moon is evidence of intelligent design well that's a topic for another thread another day.

Technically though,the moon does kinda orbit the sun as it follows us around in our orbit.

 

[NEGAN]

Technically though,the moon does kinda orbit the sun as it follows us around in our orbit.

Its orbit is based on Earth not the sun. It circles Earth and the Earth pulls it around the sun not the sun pulling earth and moon. This can be seen by the velocity it travels around the Earth versus the velocity it travels around the sun.

With gravity the sun should pull the moon out of our orbit

 

[Wallaby]

The moon travels around the sun at approximately 106,000 kms per hour (relative to the sun).

The moon travels around the earth at approximately 3,500 kms per hour (relative to the earth).

If you track the moon's path around the sun, it travels at a speed that varies between 102,000 and 110,000 kms per hour, with very slight wobbles up and down in it's orbit (less than 1% variation caused by it orbiting the earth).

People think the earth and moon's path around the sun looks something like this:

It actually looks more like this:

The gravitational force on the moon due the the sun is about twice the force due to the earth. The moon is influenced by both the earth and the sun in it's path. It's complicated. (And we haven't even started on precession, or obliquity).

 

[darthbards]

Its orbit is based on Earth not the sun. It circles Earth and the Earth pulls it around the sun not the sun pulling earth and moon. This can be seen by the velocity it travels around the Earth versus the velocity it travels around the sun.

With gravity the sun should pull the moon out of our orbit

This is correct regarding the moon orbiting earth. I believe this to be true,I felt I needed to mention it following the orbit of earth around the sun as the gravty/round earth lovers tend to nit pick at any suggestions that question their love for magik gravity,and their religiously held belief of its existence.

 

[darthbards]

The moon travels around the sun at approximately 106,000 kms per hour (relative to the sun).

The moon travels around the earth at approximately 3,500 kms per hour (relative to the earth).

If you track the moon's path around the sun, it travels at a speed that varies between 102,000 and 110,000 kms per hour, with very slight wobbles up and down in it's orbit (less than 1% variation caused by it orbiting the earth).

People think the earth and moon's path around the sun looks something like this:

It actually looks more like this:

The gravitational force on the moon due the the sun is about twice the force due to the earth. The moon is influenced by both the earth and the sun in it's path. It's complicated. (And we haven't even started on precession, or obliquity).

After having undertaken the two experiments requested by the gravity boys,do you think the two possibilities I raised for the outcome of these experiments is possible or impossible?

 

[NEGAN]

Well all you guys have to say is Einstein doesn't accept the theory of gravity and you win.