Mega Thread The Flat Earth Mega thread.

[darthbards]

Well all you guys have to say is Einstein doesn't accept the theory of gravity and you win.

I strongly believe that science is not a win/lose issue. My strong love for the subject makes me refuse to treat it as a game,whilst keeping an open mind and not letting human arrogance interfere in any such way.

I believe the currently held belief that gravity exist in the unproven format we are currently being told is around 25-30% possible. This means I'm not discounting it totally.

 

[NEGAN]

The moon travels around the sun at approximately 106,000 kms per hour (relative to the sun).

The moon travels around the earth at approximately 3,500 kms per hour (relative to the earth).

If you track the moon's path around the sun, it travels at a speed that varies between 102,000 and 110,000 kms per hour, with very slight wobbles up and down in it's orbit (less than 1% variation caused by it orbiting the earth).

People think the earth and moon's path around the sun looks something like this:

It actually looks more like this:

The gravitational force on the moon due the the sun is about twice the force due to the earth. The moon is influenced by both the earth and the sun in it's path. It's complicated. (And we haven't even started on precession, or obliquity).

If the moon didn't orbit the Earth it would be more of a circular pattern. No matter the way you splice it the sun has twice the gravitational pull on the moon the Earth. Yet the Earth still has hold of it.

It's perfectly tidal locked so we only see 1 face of the surface but it really highly improbable that the moon should work this way. It's too perfect and with danger of straying away from the topic this is the start of my belief of intelligent design. They believe our moon is one of the most unique bodies in our universe, not Earth.

 

[NEGAN]

I strongly believe that science is not a win/lose issue. My strong love for the subject makes me refuse to treat it as a game,whilst keeping an open mind and not letting human arrogance interfere in any such way.

I believe the currently held belief that gravity exist in the unproven format we are currently being told is around 25-30% possible. This means I'm not discounting it totally.

It was more of a throw away line about the people insulting you and cannot. They are insulting Einstein.

 

[darthbards]

It was more of a throw away line about the people insulting you and cannot. They are insulting Einstein.

That is correct,and Einstein is considered by many as the highest priest in the religion of science.
By not keeping an open mind and letting human arrogance,brain washing or any other outside matter get in the way of any conclusion, they are also not only insulting science itself, but every person who cares for the answers that all humans would one day like answered.

 

[Watchyourwaite]

It was more of a throw away line about the people insulting you and cannot. They are insulting Einstein.

There is a difference between thinking that gravity doesnt exist, and having different theories on what causes the force of gravity.

Einstein didnt think that gravity didnt exist.

 

[NEGAN]

There is a difference between thinking that gravity doesnt exist, and having different theories on what causes the force of gravity.

Einstein didnt think that gravity didnt exist.

Yes and his theory has major holes in it too.

It's also why cannot needs something else besides saying no gravity.

 

[darthbards]

There is a difference between thinking that gravity doesnt exist, and having different theories on what causes the force of gravity.

Einstein didnt think that gravity didnt exist.

Einstein knew there was a heavy chance gravity would be proven incorrect or never proven.

Einstein's hands were tied. He never knew about about computer code.
The first computer in its infancy was only developed nine year before Einstein died.

 

[Watchyourwaite]

Yes and his theory has major holes in it too.

But you do understand the difference between saying gravity doesnt exist. And that the theory behind gravity has holes in it. Yah?

 

[darthbards]

But you do understand the difference between saying gravity doesnt exist. And that the theory behind gravity has holes in it. Yah?

You do understand the difference between saying the theory behind gravity has holes in it and saying gravity does exist. Yah?

 

[Watchyourwaite]

You do understand the difference between saying the theory behind gravity has holes in it and saying gravity does exist. Yah?

Yes. Which is why i dont understand how you can say that gravity doesnt exist.

 

[NEGAN]

But you do understand the difference between saying gravity doesnt exist. And that the theory behind gravity has holes in it. Yah?

Yes I do, but if the top scientists in our history produce theories that have major flaws in it you cant insult someone calling out the bullshit of it all.

I do believe in gravity only because there is not a thing else that rivals it....yet.

But when cannot calls it magic he should be calling it a phenomenon. He also should also have another plausible theory if he is going to argue gravity.

 

[darthbards]

Yes. Which is why i dont understand how you can say that gravity doesnt exist.

I don't understand why you wont answer the questions I asked regarding the childish experiment you asked me to undertake.
I've generously said there is a 25-30% chance gravity in its current unproven format could be correct.

 

[Watchyourwaite]

Yes I do, but if the top scientists in our history produce theories that have major flaws in it you cant insult someone calling out the bullshit of it all.

I do believe in gravity only because there is not a thing else that rivals it....yet.

But when cannot calls it magic he should be calling it a phenomenon. He also should also have another plausible theory if he is going to argue gravity.

So you think someone saying that they dont actually believe gravity exists is the same as Einstein having a different theory?
Saying there is no evidence of gravity is the same as saying there are flaws in the theory?

 

[Watchyourwaite]

I don't understand why you wont answer the questions I asked regarding the childish experiment you asked me to undertake.
I've generously said there is a 25-30% chance gravity in its current unproven format could be correct.

What were your two experiments and quote or link your post to where you stated them.

 

[darthbards]

What were your two experiments and quote or link your post to where you stated them.

Post #1206.

 

[Watchyourwaite]

I've carried out two experiments in the last 24 hours at the request of the gravity boys.
I have offered two alternate explanations to them for further discussion and have received no response.

What two experiments did you conduct and what were your results?

One theory suggested I cannot fly,which I strongly believe is a genetical factor,more so than gravity,and I have also been given no response to my counter question regarding why birds can fly.

Is that genetical factor being that you dont have any way to create uplift?
What is the genetical factor that you speak of?

 

[Watchyourwaite]

Post #1206.

Yeah that isnt it so i looked it up and posted above this post. But this is your forum and your definitely not trolling.

 

[darthbards]

Yes I do, but if the top scientists in our history produce theories that have major flaws in it you cant insult someone calling out the bullshit of it all.

I do believe in gravity only because there is not a thing else that rivals it....yet.

But when cannot calls it magic he should be calling it a phenomenon. He also should also have another plausible theory if he is going to argue gravity.

Would you consider it plausible we are living inside a simulation?
Would you consider it plausible gravity is in fact computer code?
Would you consider it plausible that everything is in fact computer code?

 

[darthbards]

Yeah that isnt it so i looked it up and posted above this post. But this is your forum and your definitely not trolling.

Do you think it's possible or impossible that your jumping up and down experiment could be influenced by.
1. A separate force mimicking the force of gravity.
2. A repulsion from a separate world or parallel universe.

Stop using the word troll just because you don't like a question.

 

[Watchyourwaite]

Do you think it's possible or impossible that your jumping up and down experiment could be influenced by.
1. A separate force mimicking the force of gravity.
2. A repulsion from a separate world or universe.

Stop using the word troll just because you don't like a question.

1. Something mimicking the force of gravity means that the force of gravity must exist, for it to be mimicked.
2. What world is giving repulsion that will accelerate us towards the surface of the earth at 9.8m/s/s?

3. Why did you ignore my post directly above the one you quoted, that asked you questions?

 

[darthbards]

1. Something mimicking the force of gravity means that the force of gravity must exist, for it to be mimicked.
2. What world is giving repulsion that will accelerate us towards the surface of the earth at 9.8m/s/s?

3. Why did you ignore my post directly above the one you quoted, that asked you questions?

Sorry the separate universe should have read parallel universe.

 

[darthbards]

And no,a computer code mimicking gravity for example is not gravity,it's a computer code.
A separate force that keeps me on the ground during the experiment may only be mimicking that aspect of gravity.
Your magik gravity serves lots of purposes that may be getting carried out by another separate force.

 

[NEGAN]

So you think someone saying that they dont actually believe gravity exists is the same as Einstein having a different theory?
Saying there is no evidence of gravity is the same as saying there are flaws in the theory?

The only thing he has done wrong is he no other plausible theory to offset saying gravity doesn't exist.

Saying gravity doesn't exist is really saying the theory of gravity is bullshit which I have no problem with since it has so many flaws.

Newton knew his theory had flaws in it. So even the father gravity has his doubts.

The other theory I am looking at is plasma and electrons + and - to explain the attractions.

 

[Watchyourwaite]

The only thing he has done wrong is he no other plausible theory to offset saying gravity doesn't exist.

Saying gravity doesn't exist is really saying the theory of gravity is bullshit which I have no problem with since it has so many flaws.

Newton knew is theory had flaws in it. So even the father gravity has his doubts.

The other theory I am looking at is plasma and electrons + and - to explain the attractions.

I have to disagree. I think someone saying that gravity doesnt exist, and using all the examples he has shows thats definitely what he meant, is not the same as there are disagreements with the theory of gravity.

Lets find out. darthbards You onlyt need to answer A or B.
A. you believe gravity exists.
B. you do not believe gravity exists.

 

[darthbards]

The only thing he has done wrong is he no other plausible theory to offset saying gravity doesn't exist.

Saying gravity doesn't exist is really saying the theory of gravity is bullshit which I have no problem with since it has so many flaws.

Newton knew his theory had flaws in it. So even the father gravity has his doubts.

The other theory I am looking at is plasma and electrons + and - to explain the attractions.

I have mentioned + and - as an alternate theory during this thread to explain orbits.

Do you think simulation theory is a plausible explanation?