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[Werewolf]

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You're forgetting the Earth's rotation period (one day) is 23 hours and 56 minutes, not 24 hours

A difference of 4 minutes per day x 180 days = 720 minutes = 12 hours difference

 

[exe ex machina]

The Earth is neither flat nor round.
It's in the middle. Like this....

Or like this...

 

[darthbards]

you seem to have a very low opinion of humans, sure in groups we can be dumb and the level of intelligence of people varies as does the level of knowledge

but you act like the intelligent educated people who have made their life's work the study of physics and the pursuit of greater knowledge are incapable of understanding the size and shape of our planet because a guy that does yoga says they are wrong

No,I'm just not as arrogant as others. I think humans will develop SI that will help give us the answers.

You do know there are also people dedicating their lives trying to understand our planet isn't round? You just don't appreciate that dedication over other dedication.
And the yoga guy is only one guy.

 

[exe ex machina]

In 1893, Orlando Ferguson, a real estate developer based in South Dakota, drew a map of the Earth that combined biblical and scientific knowledge in a unique way. The map accompanied a 92-page lecture that Ferguson — referring to himself as a "professor" — delivered in town after town, traveling far and wide to share his theory of geography, highlighted by his belief that the Earth was flat.

Ferguson's map represents the Earth as a giant, rectangular slab with a dimpled upper surface. Don Homuth of Salem, Ore., just donated one of two intact copies of the map to the Library of Congress. [See the map]

"It's very fragile. It's printed on tissue paper and hand-colored with watercolors," Homuth said. He got the map from his eighth grade history teacher in Fargo, N.D., who got it from his grandfather, who lived in Hot Springs, S.D. — Ferguson's hometown.


"Now, I'm 67. I don't want it to fall into the hands of relatives, for God's sake! And I don't particularly want to sell it. So we thought we'd send it to the Library of Congress," Homuth told Life's Little Mysteries, a sister site to LiveScience.

The only other copy is housed in the Pioneer Historical Museum in Hot Springs. James Bingham, chairman of the museum's board of directors, told us what he knows about it.

"Ferguson was trying to make an updated version of the flat Earth theory to fit the biblical description of the Earth with known facts," Bingham said. Typical of flat Earths, Ferguson's Earth is a rectangular slab, the four corners of which are each guarded by an angel. "What makes his flat Earth different from other theories is his theory holds that the Earth is imprinted with an 'inverse toroid.'" If you were to take a donut and press it into wet cement and then remove the donut, Bingham explained, the rounded impression it left in the cement would be what is known in mathematics as an inverse toroid.

"It's pretty clever because it explains the Columbus phenomenon, where you see ships coming in over the horizon and gradually the mast gets taller and taller until you can see the ship," Bingham said. "By 1893, most people knew about horizons so he had to come up with some way to explain that."

The map also has a picture of a man holding onto the Earth for dear life, with an inscription that reads: "These men are flying on the globe at a rate of 65,000 miles per hour around the sun, and 1,042 miles per hour around the center of the earth (in their minds). Think of the speed!" Yeah right, Ferguson seems to have been implying. [Read: What's at the Center of the Milky Way?]

"These people truly believed that the Earth is not a globe!" Homuth said. "A lot of stuff like this got ignored and swept into history's wastebasket. But at the time people actually believed this stuff!"

Incredibly, some people still do. The Flat Earth Society is an active organization currently led by a Virginian man named Daniel Shenton. Though Shenton believes in evolution and global warming, he and his hundreds, if not thousands, of followers worldwide also believe that the Earth is a disc that you can fall off of.

"I haven't taken this position just to be difficult," Shenton told The Guardian last year. "To look around, the world does appear to be flat, so I think it is incumbent on others to prove decisively that it isn't. And I don't think that burden of proof has been met yet."

 

[Duritz]

Personally I think more research into the giant turtle theory is required.

 

[exe ex machina]

https://aplanetruth.info/11-how-does-a-ship-circumnavigate-on-a-flat-earth/


#11 How Does A Ship Circumnavigate on a Flat Earth?

Whether the Earth is sphere, or flat and round, circumnavigation is not an issue here. Think of a needle going around on a record player.

“Circular sailing no more proves the world to be a globe than an equilateral triangle. The sailing round the world would, of course, take very much longer, but, in principle, it is exactly the same as that of the yachtsman circumnavigating the Isle of Wight. Let me give a simple illustration. A boy wants to sail his iron toy boat by a magnet, so he gets a basin, in the middle of which he places a soap-dish, or anything else which he may think suitable to represent the Earth, and then fills the basin with water to display the sea. He puts in his boat and draws it by the magnet round his little world. But the boat never passes over the rim to sail under the basin, as if that were globular, instead of being simply circular. So is it in this world of ours; from the extreme South we can sail from East to West or from West to East around it, but we cannot sail from North to South or from South to North, for we cannot break through intervening lands, nor pass the impenetrable ramparts of ice and rocks which enclose the great Southern Circumference.” -David Wardlaw Scott, “Terra Firma” (68)

“A very good illustration of the circum-navigation of a plane will be seen by taking a round table, and fixing a pin in the centre to represent the magnetic pole. To this central pin attach a string drawn out to any distance towards the edge of the table. This string may represent the meridian of Greenwich, extending due north and south. If now a pencil or other object is placed across, or at right angles to the string, at any distance between the centre and the circumference of the table, it will represent a vessel standing due east and west. Now move the pencil and the string together in either direction, and it will be seen that by keeping the vessel (or pencil), square to the string it must of necessity describe a circle round the magnetic centre and return to the starting point in the opposite direction to that in which it first sailed.” -Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, “Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Not a Globe!” (226)

 

[exe ex machina]

Nice historical article....

https://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/flat/flateart.htm

 

[Gralin]

No,I'm just not as arrogant as others. I think humans will develop SI that will help give us the answers.

You do know there are also people dedicating their lives trying to understand our planet isn't round? You just don't appreciate that dedication over other dedication.
And the yoga guy is only one guy.

yes he is, one of many people that you believe over those that work in the field and study the science.

You keep hanging your hat on SI will prove humans wrong on the shape of the earth. So you think that technology will disprove all our current technology/not bear false witness

Your idea is that an independent intelligence created by AI which was created by man will tell the truth where man and camera and computer lie

The earth is not a perfect sphere when you do the math, but it may as well be when you look at the big picture. To us the numbers that show it isn't perfect are big, but at the scale of the planet they are insignificant.

 

[exe ex machina]

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

https://aplanetruth.info/11-how-does-a-ship-circumnavigate-on-a-flat-earth/


#11 How Does A Ship Circumnavigate on a Flat Earth?

Whether the Earth is sphere, or flat and round, circumnavigation is not an issue here. Think of a needle going around on a record player.

“Circular sailing no more proves the world to be a globe than an equilateral triangle. The sailing round the world would, of course, take very much longer, but, in principle, it is exactly the same as that of the yachtsman circumnavigating the Isle of Wight. Let me give a simple illustration. A boy wants to sail his iron toy boat by a magnet, so he gets a basin, in the middle of which he places a soap-dish, or anything else which he may think suitable to represent the Earth, and then fills the basin with water to display the sea. He puts in his boat and draws it by the magnet round his little world. But the boat never passes over the rim to sail under the basin, as if that were globular, instead of being simply circular. So is it in this world of ours; from the extreme South we can sail from East to West or from West to East around it, but we cannot sail from North to South or from South to North, for we cannot break through intervening lands, nor pass the impenetrable ramparts of ice and rocks which enclose the great Southern Circumference.” -David Wardlaw Scott, “Terra Firma” (68)

“A very good illustration of the circum-navigation of a plane will be seen by taking a round table, and fixing a pin in the centre to represent the magnetic pole. To this central pin attach a string drawn out to any distance towards the edge of the table. This string may represent the meridian of Greenwich, extending due north and south. If now a pencil or other object is placed across, or at right angles to the string, at any distance between the centre and the circumference of the table, it will represent a vessel standing due east and west. Now move the pencil and the string together in either direction, and it will be seen that by keeping the vessel (or pencil), square to the string it must of necessity describe a circle round the magnetic centre and return to the starting point in the opposite direction to that in which it first sailed.” -Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, “Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Not a Globe!” (226)

What takes longer? Circumventing the globe or going halfway around Antarctica?

 

[exe ex machina]

Someone debunk the above video details

 

[Gralin]

Someone debunk the above video details

title says flat earth, video is wrong

 

[Procrastinator35]

Someone debunk the above video details

More to do with ways of seeing & the human perspective than anything else....At those scales & distances, depth & 3 dimensionality are assumed from real-life experience....We don't live or walk about in a cardboard cut-out amigo.

 

[exe ex machina]

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Holy **** the stars...

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

You could see both pole stars at the equator. They are so far away that they would both be visible

 

[darthbards]

Are you saying we've gone 'balls-up' Darthy?

Yes,I do think we have ballsed up what we think we know.
We are entering an exciting era and I'd say we will discover the Earth is not a big spinning ball,hurtling through space within the next 20 years.
In 100 years time they might have a bit of a laugh we thought the way we did,but they may also understand we were working within our limitations.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Always knew Einstein was a croc....Common-sense alone dictates it.

 

[Total Power]

Always knew Einstein was a croc....Common-sense alone dictates it.

Hang on, didnt you post in the other thread that gravity is a fact/law?

or you are going to stoop as low as darthtard above?

 

[Procrastinator35]

Hang on, didnt you post in the other thread that gravity is a fact/law?

or you are going to stoop as low as darthtard above?

Relativity snookums....Gravity is Newton, yeah.

 

[Total Power]

Relativity snookums.

What relativity, SR, GR? can you answer my question? do you believe in gravity?

 

[darthbards]

Always knew Einstein was a croc....Common-sense alone dictates it.

You only have to look at a ball and it makes no sense we are living on one.
Spin it on your finger it makes even less sense. Hurl it as far as you can,less sense again.
And then some try and say it came from a big magical explosion,from nothing,that they can't even prove.

Sounds pretty logical.

 

[Procrastinator35]

What relativity, SR, GR? can you answer my question? do you believe in gravity?

see above loopy.

 

[Total Power]

see above loopy.

I did, it doesnt answer the question. You and I had this discussion where you said gravity is a fact/law not just a theory.

You seem more reasonable than darthtard, so i expect a better answer.

 

[Procrastinator35]

You only have to look at a ball and it makes no sense we are living on one.
Spin it on your finger it makes even less sense. Hurl it as far as you can,less sense again.
And then some try and say it came from a big magical explosion,from nothing,that they can't even prove.

Sounds pretty logical.

Yeah, i'm still O.K with the spinning globe bit darths.