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jod23

TheBrownDog
Apr 2, 2000
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Before this week I don't think I'd played FM since before xmas. 18 years into my save, and 2 years after joining Liverpool (so Dec 2036) I was sooooooo bored of the save. But having already gotten Bradford City to dominance I didn't really have an inclination do it again with a Vanarama North or South team; I've also tried and become pissed off with an A-League save where, stupidly, my Victory team were good enough to win the ACL and get within 1-0 of Barcelona, but would then lose a ridiculous A-League final. So I couldn't really think of a reason to turn it on, cos I couldn't figure out anything I wanted to do.

Anyway, I plugged away this week with what is now the Liverpool save. Interesting season actually. The first game I played in 6 weeks was the League Cup Final, which I lost to Arsenal. I was pretty comfortably 3-6 points ahead in the League for most of the 2nd half of the season, although it ended up closer than it should've. Arsenal were a point behind me, but they had literally 1 goal ahead of me on goal difference (the goal that cost my best ever regen the golden boot) - so if they'd drawn and I'd lost they could've won the league by a goal.

We played Arsenal again in the FA Cup, which we won on pens. We played Arsenal yet again in the Champions League which we dominated 3-0. And with that, I was ready to pack it in. Until I realised that we were only a few weeks away from the Club World Cup, which I'd won 8 years earlier with Bradford City. We made it to the final, we lost our elite striker (best ever regen) and our only decent GK (cos I'm a badass who only carries 1) in training 2 days before, and we lost the final to... guess who? Arsenal!

I'd won the Super Cup and the Community Shield, so it was almost a perfect season but for the League Cup and Club World Cup (or season + 1 week).

I was done with the save... but then I decided "hmmm... maybe here's where I use the coach profile and ability I've built to go win the A-League." So, having won everything, I engineered a resignation from Liverpool over their refusal to sign a player we didn't even need, and waited for an A-League opportunity to express interest in.

But... after 2 weeks of unemployment? Barca's manager quit to take my post at Liverpool, and they'd offered me an interview. What was I going to do? Of course you interview with Barca! I got the job... it was only then that I realised that their squad is positively ancient. It makes their current real life squad look like U23s. So, despite scouting being one of my favourite parts of the game, I've actually had a really rubbish evening trying to rapid-scout a whole new team with much, much less money than you'd expect Barca to have.
Try the Pentagon Challenge bro. A classic...

Your goal? To win the Champions League - or its equivalent - in five different continents. Sounds easy right? Not exactly.

You have to start the game unemployed with no coaching badges and no previous footballing experience. This makes the first few years of the save a real grind as you scramble desperately to get a job in the Chinese First Division.

Once you finally achieve that first continental cup win, things start clicking into a gear as you globetrot your way around some of the biggest clubs in the world. Just be prepared to sink quite a few hours - or days - into this one.
 

nobbyiscool

Brownlow Medallist
Aug 11, 2006
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Guys, I need help.

As you know this is my first version of FM, and I’d run out of motivation on my first major save.

But I was able to rejuvenate my interest when my dunce brain figured out how to add new databases without spending the money on Steam for custom databases.

So, being a Tasmanian by birth, I’ve taken control of SV Tasmania Berlin in the German 5th tier.

My problem is, despite HOURS of work scouting and approaching free agents, no one will play for me. I stopped even scouting them - I started going through every German free agent, amateur and non-contract players.

I even went down a division to a regional comp based in Berlin.

But cos I can’t pay anyone more than $40 a week (other teams in the league are paying up to $480) no one will play for me.

I set up a senior affiliate in the 2nd div... but they don’t lend me any players cos they want them playing in higher divs.

I now play my first game in 2 days and I can’t field a team.

Can anyone give me advice? How do I find these players?
 

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nobbyiscool

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On the contrary, I think it was the challenge I was after. We’ve got some 15-16 year olds already better than our first team players, but they’re too young to play in Germany.

So I’ve just gotta survive relegation with whatever scraps of sh*t I can pull together, and things will get better quickly.

A new save wouldn’t help anyway! I’ve also discovered that someone on FM Scout has created an 11-tier system for Australian football with pro/rel. I haven’t checked it out yet, but I suspect my junior club is going to about tier 10 of 11; so this is good practice for that!
 

nobbyiscool

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Aug 11, 2006
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God this is a bummer. I was so pumped when I figured out how to do this. But I might just have found Germany’s worst club.

I’ve ended up doing full on research of the German league structure, thinking that if I could get free transfers from lower divisions in the Berlin region I could at least get some numbers in the squad.

Nup.

Cos Tassie Berlin are newly promoted to div V, you go back to the regional div VI teams in Berlin... and they have players worth 20, 30, sometimes 60k.

Meanwhile I haven’t got a cracker to spend. Not a cent. Even if I sold a player - and I only have two with any value, one $12k the other $2k - the current amount I’m keeping is 0%.

So I’ve gone down 2 leagues... and I’m finding players telling me my team doesn’t meet their ambition. WTF? You’re pretty much playing social football in div VII!

I’ll keep it going, but I’m going to struggle to stay up, and the promotion playoff system at regional level is a b*tch.

This is brutal!
 

bok_party

Norm Smith Medallist
May 14, 2007
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On the contrary, I think it was the challenge I was after. We’ve got some 15-16 year olds already better than our first team players, but they’re too young to play in Germany.

So I’ve just gotta survive relegation with whatever scraps of sh*t I can pull together, and things will get better quickly.

A new save wouldn’t help anyway! I’ve also discovered that someone on FM Scout has created an 11-tier system for Australian football with pro/rel. I haven’t checked it out yet, but I suspect my junior club is going to about tier 10 of 11; so this is good practice for that!
I checked it out and it’s pretty good.

Also check TNS in wales. They tend to have some decent players for cheap
 

nobbyiscool

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Aug 11, 2006
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I’m not sure I’m long for this save.

I can bare the hours spent scouting.

I can bare amateur players who live in the same city not even agreeing to see an offer.

I can bare having 2 shitty “club pros” who cost money, who I can’t get rid of, and who don’t do anything but b*tch at me as club leaders.

What’s really driving me insane is opposition div V scoring ******* worldies every game. Literally every game this season has seen at least 1 scored from outside the box. I was up 3-0 at half time before they poached a goal... then scored 3 bombs to beat me.

Wtf? I know the defenders aren’t shutting guys down as quickly, I know the keepers aren’t as good. I know that div V in Germany is a long way below the 4th tier of England where I started my Bradford City save. But this is ridiculous, and I’ve never experienced it playing the game before.

The reason I think I’m not long for the save is that I’m unemployed, living on debt, and this save appears to be a laptop breaker.
 

nobbyiscool

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Aug 11, 2006
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Oh, this itch I have to scratch.

They were about to sack me cos we’d been 14th (out of 16) all season, which put us in the relegation zone. I think if I’d lost the next game to the 13th place side I’d have been gone. This is despite pre-season expectations that we’d finish last.

Down 3-1 at half time I threw out the tactics and, using the theory that my “club pro” - a striker - seemed quicker than most defenders, and I have another striker who is a hack, but 193cm tall, I put a target man & poacher up front and went with a 4-4-2 direct CA.

We won that game 4-3... and so began a crazy run of luck, thinking outside the box, and playing really, really hideous football Ie. “Hoof it forward to the beanpole and have the pro run off him.”

Come January we’re in twelfth and looking ok... but still couldn’t sign anyone. I spent the entire Djokovic match last night asking every single free agent; going down a division looking for amateurs/non contract players; looking for loan deals (and getting a few clubs to agree) from clubs that I thought were a similar level - Polish 2nd div, Danish 3rd div, that kind of thing. I got an affiliate team in the 3rd div, went to loan the worst of the worst just to get numbers in the squad.

I still couldn’t sign a single guy. Every player said no. A couple (like, literally 2 or 3 players) got as far as contract negotiations... but then the clubs abject poverty screws you. And then there’s the guys who last played 6th div, haven’t had a club for 6 months, but still “don’t think my club meets his ambition.” w***ers.

It’s now March, and the good news is I’m up to 9th. Which is as good as it’ll get, cos the top 8 have kind of broken away from the bottom 8. The club pro has scored 36 goals from 26 games, including 6 goals and a perfect 10 in an 8-1 demolition of the 2nd bottom team. I’d never seen a perfect 10 player rating! (Apparently the lads took offence to going 1-0 down.)

The bad news? I can’t afford to keep the club pro next season, and he’ll leave for free. I can’t even afford to sign the best youth prospect I’ve ever seen at any of my teams.

So I guess it’s a waiting game. I can survive and wait for my juniors to mature, cos my squad of 16yos are actually better than the senior team... ultimate success is whether we can become financial enough to hold onto players long enough to monetise them.

I think we’re literally going to need to promote with a squad of 17 & 18 year olds on $25 week (against teams spending ~£5000 a week on wages) to make any of this work. And I’m not sure that can be done playing football that’s uglier than a sweaty ball bag.
 

jd2010

#freeWelly #freeDele
Feb 1, 2010
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New save with Norwich. Going to try and replicate what Dean Smith is doing with Villa with a lot of English talent. Helps having Cantwell and Aarons.

Signings: Ahmedhdozic 3.7m, Leon King 500k, Max Normann Williamsen 1.5m, Luke Daley 300k, Dael Fry 10m, Ritchie-Hosler 500k, Magnus Kofod 5m, Arvin Appiah 2m, Alex Bermejo 2m, Javi Puado 6m, Fredrik Bjorkan 3.5m, Sturridge free (did his hip out for 5 monnths), Amartey and Brady on loan.

Was thinking about going a level lower and starting with Norwich's rivals Ipswich but they've got 0 funds!
 

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jd2010

#freeWelly #freeDele
Feb 1, 2010
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I am trying to buy Williamsen now. Milan want at least 60m.
Yeah I have bought for the future on a few of them. He is in my U23 squad for now.

Also forgot I got Klaeeson the young GK. He is my backup to Krul and has performed well in a few cup games and the league game I forgot to rotate him out for.

So it's a British-Scandinavian theme I'm going for with a couple of Spanish speakers in the mix
 

Bradesmaen

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Apr 8, 2007
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Gone back to my 2019 game (the last one I bought). 2nd year of Weston Super Mare and just below the promotion places in the National League. I cant believe how little I played of 2019, think I got it for cheap though before 20 came out. Hardest part is like nobbyiscool trying to get players to play for you on low wages.
 

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