Roast The Forward line.

[Leviathan Pie]

Most Likely - But IF our Forward like keeps putting bad Performances in.

He could be back in a few weeks

No

 

[jmac70]

Cost us the game, simple.

3 goals from the named forwards, simply not good enough, not excluding anyone here.

And we don't have anything better on our list, need to recruit forwards at season end, PLURAL, FORWARDS.

Bad night for the forwards but unfair to use tonight to assess our needs for an entire season. Surely you know that?

 

[jmac70]

No

Yes

 

[Robroy22]

Bad night for the forwards but unfair to use tonight to assess our needs for an entire season. Surely you know that?

Hey stop using sense and facts as your argument....you know it will end in tears!

 

[jmac70]

Hey stop using sense and facts as your argument....you know it will end in tears!

I wouldn't normally but matty is supposed to be an aspiring journalist. Would rather he be a good one.

 

[Robroy22]

I wouldn't normally but matty is supposed to be an aspiring journalist. Would rather he be a good one.

Well that would be a new slant on the news....a good jounalist...hmmm...I remember them!

 

[TradeDraft]

We need to get it back when it was working the Best.

Cloke Get up the Ground and then let the Smalls in Elliot,Fasolo and Blair run into the 50 where Space is given with Cloke taking his Man up the Ground

 

[Robroy22]

We need to get it back when it was working the Best.

Cloke Get up the Ground and then let the Smalls in Elliot,Fasolo and Blair run into the 50 where Space is given with Cloke taking his Man up the Ground

Dave its a bit hard to drag the entire team up the ground. Port had all their players behind the centre for much of the second half.

 

[TradeDraft]

Dave its a bit hard to drag the entire team up the ground. Port had all their players behind the centre for much of the second half.

We where doing that when we where looking at our Best in the 1st Half of the Season

 

[jmac70]

Dave its a bit hard to drag the entire team up the ground. Port had all their players behind the centre for much of the second half.

True. The conditions dictated the game strategy. We did well to get back into it after that horrible first quarter.

 

[HappyRed]

Wasn't the forward line at all. The way we structured out F50 setup leaving Port to have one, maybe two men back all night cost us the game. The forwards can only do so much and when there arent enough numbers around to support, the whole thing falls apart. Having Buddy in there tonight wouldn't have helped us one iota.

Well no, because Buddy is a overrated piece of sh_it

 

[Robroy22]

Well no, because Buddy is a overrated piece of sh_it

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[Leviathan Pie]

Yes

Nup

 

[swoop42]

I agree with Matty that forward line players should be a focus with recruitment in the short term.

While Hine is a quality recruiter we seem to have an obsession with half back flankers or playing new recruits in defence.

Marsh for example can't get a game in defence at AFL level so why not swing him forward now to develop his game in that area?

How about Seedsman across half forward in the VFL?

Try something different.

Maynard looks like a find and hopefully has scope to play midfield in the future but he's another half back flanker as is Scharenberg, Oxley, Ramsay, Manteit and so on.

Hine has been seemingly obsessed with them over the years.

 

[jasonwilde]

Dave its a bit hard to drag the entire team up the ground. Port had all their players behind the centre for much of the second half.

Why is it that hardly anyone saw this? Didn't Hinkley start with 9 defenders at one Centre Bounce? Is Buckley supposed to crowd it?

 

[jasonwilde]

Cost us the game, simple.

3 goals from the named forwards, simply not good enough, not excluding anyone here.

And we don't have anything better on our list, need to recruit forwards at season end, PLURAL, FORWARDS.

Emotional post here. The delivery was woeful for a number of reasons.
We know that if Cloke gets a one-on-one he'll almost get it everytime (even whilst being molested by an opponent). We know that he is great on a lead too (how many marks does he take up on the wing?)

I'm sorry Matty but I usually enjoy your posts (& reviews) and this is a knee-jerk thread.

Yes, Elliot had a shit one (still 22 touches though)

We need a strong-bodied midfielder who can bust through packs and hit a target. I think there may be one coming out of contract that we should pay $900k a year for if necessary.

(I also think JDG could also be this in 5 years' time)

 

[Number 10]

Trade Cloke while he still has a lot of value.

Cloke > Dixon + another suns young gun

Hugely overrated and hugely overpaid

You have a short memory. Is tracking to be a 300 game Collingwood great. Don't beat a great player while he is down.

It's not his fault he is having to play at a stay at home FF.

 

[Number 10]

Emotional post here. The delivery was woeful for a number of reasons.
We know that if Cloke gets a one-on-one he'll almost get it everytime (even whilst being molested by an opponent). We know that he is great on a lead too (how many marks does he take up on the wing?)

I'm sorry Matty but I usually enjoy your posts (& reviews) and this is a knee-jerk thread.

Yes, Elliot had a shit one (still 22 touches though)

We need a strong-bodied midfielder who can bust through packs and hit a target. I think there may be one coming out of contract that we should pay $900k a year for if necessary.

(I also think JDG could also be this in 5 years' time)

Forget 5 years. JDG is going to be our man next year. Nom

 

[Robroy22]

Why is it that hardly anyone saw this? Didn't Hinkley start with 9 defenders at one Centre Bounce? Is Buckley supposed to crowd it?

Kenny said after the game that it didn't matter how many times bucks manned his spare up he was going to persist with it until every player was back there.

 

[Bard]

Kenny said after the game that it didn't matter how many times bucks manned his spare up he was going to persist with it until every player was back there.

It's what they did against Hawthorn. Unfortunately for us and the Hawks we kept trying to do the team thing and pass it, but when the forward line is that flooded you need to just take a crack from outside 50.

 

[mike123]

It's what they did against Hawthorn. Unfortunately for us and the Hawks we kept trying to do the team thing and pass it, but when the forward line is that flooded you need to just take a crack from outside 50.

And when it wet its harder to kick that long

 

[Bard]

And when it wet its harder to kick that long

Yep, but you're better off trying than bombing it straight to a loose player. With the amount of inside 50s we could have just kicked points and would have won.

I'm not saying kick it from like 60 metres out though, but we had players run to, or even slightly past, the 50m arc multiple times. Unfortunately I don't know if you can even coach them to do the opposite in that same match day situation as you'd be coaching against the philosophy for all other scenarios and it'd probably create more complications than it's worth.

 

[mike123]

Yep, but you're better off trying than bombing it straight to a loose player. With the amount of inside 50s we could have just kicked points and would have won.

I'm not saying kick it from like 60 metres out though, but we had players run to, or even slightly past, the 50m arc multiple times. Unfortunately I don't know if you can even coach them to do the opposite in that same match day situation as you'd be coaching against the philosophy for all other scenarios and it'd probably create more complications than it's worth.

Problem is when you try too even that can turn back into too bombing it to the spare. My point wasn't don't try it my point was we were most likely screwed either way. Perhaps a messenger should have got into Oxley or Maynard's ear and told them try and sneak forward and have a ping from long range?

 

[Bard]

Problem is when you try too even that can turn back into too bombing it to the spare. My point wasn't don't try it my point was we were most likely screwed either way. Perhaps a messenger should have got into Oxley or Maynard's ear and told them try and sneak forward and have a ping from long range?

Absolutely it could have failed, just think it's a higher percentage play.

 

[AJH073]

Cloke gets way too many kicks on the wing and around 70m from goal. Its so wasteful as he as limited options to kick to. I think we need an in between forward that can play the same sort of role as Cloke does now. That way he can kick it to Cloke. Darcy Moore may be that man.