Bumped The Game is becoming boring

[iameviljez]

I'm also someone who grew up watching and loving the game from the early eighties until the late 1990's but I agree that the game has become boring and has lost something. I think it's for several reasons. We no longer have suburb ground footy where as an opposition side and their fans travelling to Windy Hill or Victoria Park for example were visiting a hostile, close to the action type of environment. We no longer have the class full forwards like Dunstall, Lockett so on kicking bags of goals and the interest surrounding the weekly goal kicking table throughout the year. Players these days from all teams with the exception of a couple appear to be clones. They can run all day and obviously have very good skills but we no longer get players like Greg Williams, Doug Hawkins, Andrew Jarmen and many others who had crap loads of character with they way they played. Perhaps that's due to the fact the game is so dam quick now that players just don't have the time or the coaches license to show off their ball handling skills. These are just a couple of the reasons of many.

You're over-romanticising the past I think. In a few decades you'll be able to replace the name Williams, Jarman and Hawkins with Stevie J, Cyril Rioli and Ablett, and say exactly the same thing. Stevie J in particular tries to pull off the impossible so often even his own fans cringe at times.

Sure, suburban ground footy had a certain charm, but you know what beats standing in the outer at Moorabbin in the freezing rain? Sitting on level three of Etihad stadium with the rain beating on the roof, that's what. Throw in being on top of a City Loop station for extra points.

Finally, yes it's true about the full-forwards, but that's life when teams are a lot less defensively naive than what they were. Channelling such a large percentage of goals through one player is now footy suicide at the top level due to the tactical smarts coaches now have.

 

[iameviljez]

the fact the ball was kicked in the general direction of where it was intended to go

Reminds me of a piece of commentary from a very old game that stuck in the mind - "He's gone for a huge drop kick. That's a terrific kick! Now, is there anyone there?"... and the like.

 

[cats2rise]

Ahhh the good old days when SJ was known by his full name. Back when you used to be cool, man.

 

[JUBJUB]

Ahhh the good old days when SJ was known by his full name. Back when you used to be cool, man.

He has name changes like Prince and John Cougar Mellencamp

 

[Strangled Cat]

SJ this guy posted nothing in his first post at least I wrote "Lol" when I bumped a thread.
It is only fair this guy gets a warning now too

inb4 scottmv1 deletes his nothing post

You're a cheeky little bugger, Snow.

 

[Turbocat]

I have followed AFL/VFL for many years - I now am bored = the game has lost something.

You cannot touch a player from behind or in front ; you cannot go in hard and accidentally contact a person above the body or you get 4 weeks; you must never kick to a contest; you go down one side of the ground in numbers and the opposition then comes back down the other; there are umpires everywhere who will never let it just flow; superbly fit players who can run all day but never see a high mark; flooding - well you may as well watch soccer.

Over umpired, over coached and over regulated.

Sammy Newman is right.

2007... gees there is some bumps happening here lately.

What particular era of football was the post referring to I wonder. Get some replays from when SamN played and Id say you would be surprised how slow and stagnant the game looks. There has always been good games and bad ones... the game is probably broadcast more now than it ever has. The game has changed.. some for the good , some for the worse... I'm yet to see a better alternative.

 

[FredLeDeux]

2007... gees there is some bumps happening here lately.

What particular era of football was the post referring to I wonder. Get some replays from when SamN played and Id say you would be surprised how slow and stagnant the game looks. There has always been good games and bad ones... the game is probably broadcast more now than it ever has. The game has changed.. some for the good , some for the worse... I'm yet to see a better alternative.

You're gonna wait a while for an answer, TC, he hasn't posted for the last 4 years.

 

[Turbocat]

You're gonna wait a while for an answer, TC, he hasn't posted for the last 4 years.

Yep started before I even realised it was a bump. Bumps from 8 years ago sort can be interesting and pointless at the same time

 

[FoolCat]

JUBJUB I don't think I saw you on the first page, thread not old enough for you?

 

[AM]

You're gonna wait a while for an answer, TC, he hasn't posted for the last 4 years.

Perhaps he has changed his mind during the intervening period and now spends his spare time watching direct telecasts and replays.

 

[JUBJUB]

JUBJUB I don't think I saw you on the first page, thread not old enough for you?

FoolCat ,I only appear in threads 10 years or older

 

[romeohwho]

I watched the last quarter of Pies v Tiges game last weekend? week before?. It was fantastic-fast, multi-skillful and entertaining game. Then when it finished i turned over to catch the last bit of the A league Final. The contrast was amazing. The soccer was a total yawn, slow, dull, lacking.
Even if the AFL is not thrilling you like it once did, it is still so far ahead of the rest, it is not funny.

 

[Bobby_]

what do you expect from Soccer though? It's arguably one of the most boring sports in the world. Only reason why most of the world plays it, is because you can play without shoes, it's no contact so no need for mouth guards or head wear and if your still financially stricken, you can make a circular ball out of pretty much anything. No need for parks or grass either, just play on beaches. Simplicity at it's finest, yet so offensively challenged as a sporting code.

 

[Snow]

Oh OP made this before we won a premiership. Bet he changed his tune in September.

 

[Stan The Caddy]

Oh OP made this before we won a premiership. Bet he changed his tune in September.

Welcome back Rainfall. I've missed ya!

 

[Snow]

Welcome back Rainfall. I've missed ya!

Ya

 

[BlightysCats]

I watched the last quarter of Pies v Tiges game last weekend? week before?. It was fantastic-fast, multi-skillful and entertaining game. Then when it finished i turned over to catch the last bit of the A league Final. The contrast was amazing. The soccer was a total yawn, slow, dull, lacking.
Even if the AFL is not thrilling you like it once did, it is still so far ahead of the rest, it is not funny.

Cheers to that!!!

 

[Vdubs]

I watched the last quarter of Pies v Tiges game last weekend? week before?. It was fantastic-fast, multi-skillful and entertaining game. Then when it finished i turned over to catch the last bit of the A league Final. The contrast was amazing. The soccer was a total yawn, slow, dull, lacking.
Even if the AFL is not thrilling you like it once did, it is still so far ahead of the rest, it is not funny.

What a biased small sample comment.
One quarter of a close AFL game- you happen to have fluked a great game. Many this year are not. As are many A League games not.
Check any Carlton or GC game, or any of the many one-sided games.
Check the Brisbane Roar- CCM final a few years back- brilliant
spectacle . You caught the end of a totally 1- sided A-League final.
The MV- MCFC game this season was superb.
I need not go on.

 

[BUSTER29]

What a biased small sample comment.
One quarter of a close AFL game- you happen to have fluked a great game. Many this year are not. As are many A League games not.
Check any Carlton or GC game, or any of the many one-sided games.
Check the Brisbane Roar- CCM final a few years back- brilliant
spectacle . You caught the end of a totally 1- sided A-League final.
The MV- MCFC game this season was superb.
I need not go on.

Agree.
With you last sentence.

 

[romeohwho]

What a biased small sample comment.
One quarter of a close AFL game- you happen to have fluked a great game. Many this year are not. As are many A League games not.
Check any Carlton or GC game, or any of the many one-sided games.
Check the Brisbane Roar- CCM final a few years back- brilliant
spectacle . You caught the end of a totally 1- sided A-League final.
The MV- MCFC game this season was superb.
I need not go on.

Nope you need not.
That good home and away game of AFL was a better game to watch than that A league final. Ok?
But the difference in the atmosphere was striking.
Not sure why it is biased. I have watched soccer for many years, since the '82 World Cup, and have obviously quite enjoyed it, but the reality is, when it gets down to it, most of them were ordinary games.
I just find AFL at its best is light years ahead of soccer at its best.

 

[Vdubs]

Nope you need not.
That good home and away game of AFL was a better game to watch than that A league final. Ok?
But the difference in the atmosphere was striking.
Not sure why it is biased. I have watched soccer for many years, since the '82 World Cup, and have obviously quite enjoyed it, but the reality is, when it gets down to it, most of them were ordinary games.
I just find AFL at its best is light years ahead of soccer at its best.

Fair enough.
Just commenting on your very limited comparison leading to your conclusion (therefore,) that it is so far ahead of the rest. That is very debatable

 

[romeohwho]

Fair enough.
Just commenting on your very limited comparison leading to your conclusion (therefore,) that it is so far ahead of the rest. That is very debatable

Yep agree the comparison was not entirely fair re those two games.
I used to get up on Sunday mornings to watch the Italian comp on SBS, have watched plenty of EPL, spent plenty of World Cups driving around to a mates at 3 am to watch Netherlands v Germany etc -so think I have given it a fair go. And that should also tell you that I got something out of it, and I do like a good game of soccer.
But am no longer clouded by the money, the hype, the geographical domination of the world game.
AFL, is a small, irrelevant game played in the far corner of the world to a small number of people -but at its best it is still a mighty good game.

 

[Vdubs]

Yep agree the comparison was not entirely fair re those two games.
I used to get up on Sunday mornings to watch the Italian comp on SBS, have watched plenty of EPL, spent plenty of World Cups driving around to a mates at 3 am to watch Netherlands v Germany etc -so think I have given it a fair go. And that should also tell you that I got something out of it, and I do like a good game of soccer.



But am no longer clouded by the money, the hype, the geographical domination of the world game.
AFL, is a small, irrelevant game played in the far corner of the world to a small number of people -but at its best it is still a mighty good game.

And to be honest, I am very new to soccer, and a 50 year supporter of footy.
I do fear that in Australia, footy is losing some appeal generally. But I can stop and watch a game of even low grade suburban footy anywhere and be taken in by it, yet soccer could not do that to me.

 

[Seeds]

Oh the irony that this guy posted it at the beginning of the 2007 season.

 

[Vdubs]

Oh the irony that this guy posted it at the beginning of the 2007 season.

Didn't you too get bored with all those records, all those wins, all those flags? He could see it coming...