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Surprised not to see more premature Motlop haters on this thread. Have we already forgotten the hate for this man? Its been 5 weeks since you last labelled him unfit and fat - even though he had a full preseason.
Were people wrong to label him out of shape?

I recall that being the main discussion point. People felt he was carrying a few extras kgs over the preseason while others stated it was trick of the camera or a vest.

By his own admission he turned up under-done.

Motlop, who signed a lucrative two-year deal to stay at Geelong last season, admitted he was not in top shape when he returned to the club at the start of pre-season.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...k=6bff870544ada3418c75b430a52f3b6a-1462257205

"I wasn't too fit at the start [of pre-season], but I'm definitely getting there now," Motlop told the club's website.
"I'm feeling a lot fitter than when we first came back.


http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-01-14/motlop-in-good-nick-as-he-prepares-for-big-season

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding these "Wrong" / "Right" threads. :huh:
 
Were people wrong to label him out of shape?

I recall that being the main discussion point. People felt he was carrying a few extras kgs over the preseason while others stated it was trick of the camera or a vest.

By his own admission he turned up under-done.

Motlop, who signed a lucrative two-year deal to stay at Geelong last season, admitted he was not in top shape when he returned to the club at the start of pre-season.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...k=6bff870544ada3418c75b430a52f3b6a-1462257205

"I wasn't too fit at the start [of pre-season], but I'm definitely getting there now," Motlop told the club's website.
"I'm feeling a lot fitter than when we first came back.


http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-01-14/motlop-in-good-nick-as-he-prepares-for-big-season

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding these "Wrong" / "Right" threads. :huh:

That wasnt in reference to pre season mate. These were people calling for his head after the first round.
 

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Surprised not to see more premature Motlop haters on this thread. Have we already forgotten the hate for this man? Its been 5 weeks since you last labelled him unfit and fat - even though he had a full preseason.

I never said he was fat, I did say he was lazy on the field. He looked better Sat night but I'm not convinced I won't see more of his laziness throughout the season.
 
Surprised not to see more premature Motlop haters on this thread. Have we already forgotten the hate for this man? Its been 5 weeks since you last labelled him unfit and fat - even though he had a full preseason.
He DID have a full preseason. He also arrived for it unfit, and fat.

He was ordinary in NAB and not that much better in Rounds One and Two. He's gotten better as he's gotten slimmer.
 
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He DID have a full preseason. He also arrived for it unfit, and fat.

He was ordinary in NAB and not that much better in Rounds One and Two. He's gotten better as he's gotten slimmer.

Im not a believer mate. As ive said the the fat he carried pre pre season would have gone within a week, he wouldnt of carried any excess into round 1.

Match fitness was his problem, I remember when I played local footy a pre season no matter how good can never fully prepare you for the rigors of an actual game.
 
I was adamant a month ago Kersten should be dropped. :$

I had friends though. :D

After the first NAB challenge game this year I questioned him in the side, and said he was virtually invisible.

Amazing what a full preseason, belief of the coaches, your teammates, confidence and self belief does.

Happy to admit I was wrong and that he belongs in the side
 

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Ive made some clangers... some realy good ones too.

Kersten was one i didnt miss.

Got PLENTY of others...

Go Catters
 
Surprised not to see more premature Motlop haters on this thread. Have we already forgotten the hate for this man? Its been 5 weeks since you last labelled him unfit and fat - even though he had a full preseason.

He came back unfit and out of shape. This wasn't a conspiracy theory based on an under-clothing vest misidentified as fat that some posters suggested - people around the club confirmed he came back out of shape. In his first few games, he looked slow and unfit.

So while he's predictably gotten better as the season has progressed and he's gained fitness, I don't think the knocks against his professional attitude are wrong or unfounded at all.
 

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He came back unfit and out of shape. This wasn't a conspiracy theory based on an under-clothing vest misidentified as fat that some posters suggested - people around the club confirmed he came back out of shape. In his first few games, he looked slow and unfit.

So while he's predictably gotten better as the season has progressed and he's gained fitness, I don't think the knocks against his professional attitude are wrong or unfounded at all.
Yep agree. I said it was shocking that he came back fat, which Motlop himself has confirmed. So not wrong there.
 
Let's face it. We've got a little bit lucky here.
If vardy was fully fit, or Clark was 90% fit, Kersten would be in the VFL. Unless he smashed the wall down.

The best thing is he's contributing. And holding his own.
And who knows, maybe he'll start to believe and become the 80 goals a year player I thought he could be.
Long road to travel yet.
 
How would we be better now for having dropped him?
We probably wouldn't have been much different although we may of beaten gws if we played menzel (or anyone) instead of kersten in round 2 given how close the result was. You don't have hindsight when you make the call. It's working now though. Is finally providing a marking target up forward. Can it continue is the big question?
 

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