The inevitable umpire thread

[FredLeDeux]

Googling 'Troy Pannell' gets some interesting results...

Did that earlier today.
What an odd sort of fellow.

 

[BringBackTomFloyd]

By the way, the blues player Pannell patted on the arse was Rowe down the southern end. It wasnt as romantic as the Stringer one. Rowe was running past (not at pace) but he made sure he got a little bit of cheek action. Anyone else see it. Im like a dog with a bone on this but lets be honest, umps going around patting players on the arse is not something I want to see at any level of footy. it just stinks of favoritism. One other thing on umps - they all barrack for a team if we are being honest. If you love the game its impossible not to. Surely then to protect the game you dont have them umpiring the team they follow otherwise you see what comes of as we saw earlier this year in a game at docklands.

 

[Bobby_]

perhaps the umps were given an offer they couldn't refuse

 

[Since 2001]

Just a general consensus on the hawthorn thread is this. It seems if you have the ball for a long time EG: 360 tackle it use to paid automatic now it isn't, players seem to be getting tackled for longer and no call is made. But you get and are instantly tackled you are pinned. I just question how the game is umpired.

The rules are just so contradictive like what is the difference to made an attempt and holding/dropping the ball? Yes the player made an attempt but if it is dropping/holding the ball its a free kick, not made an attempt. thats where for me there is huge confusion.
Also prior opportunity has gone out the window as-well even as a hawks fan i know we've been lucky (isaac smith) but the rule has got other ones to compete with it just extends out to driving the head is a free kick but head high tackles are swell and its just such a grey area for umpires that when you have each individual umpire interpret the rule thats where the questions come in.

Bulldogs are the prime example of this their free kick ratio is ridiculous and the reason is because they player with their heads. throw them around after each tackle, when a mark is spoiled they fall to the ground and grab their head playing for the free, drop their legs, run to packs playing for the free ands it very frustrating to watch and having played them already I've never been so angry in my life.

The afl has done too many knee jerk reactions and just killed the game.

Go Hawks

 

[Nickoo]

Jake Stringer jogs past and Pannell pats him on the backside.

Bloody hell!! It's completely justified to have this topic if that sort of crap is going on.


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[you pick one]

I'm pretty sure that's correct. I know he lived in Hoppers Crossing and around those areas and traveled to Chanel College in Lovely Banks for school each day, as did a lot of others from that area including Brad Johnson.

He bleeds Western Bulldog.

Here's the problem,what a den of iniquity,I had the misfortune of playing a school game against that mob where a teacher/coach gave half their side the cuts for losing at half time.I bet they got well and truly reamed after the game.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Here's the problem,what a den of iniquity,I had the misfortune of playing a school game against that mob where a teacher/coach gave half their side the cuts for losing at half time.I bet they got well and truly reamed after the game.

The cuts? I'm betting that was pre-60's era?

 

[you pick one]

The cuts? I'm betting that was pre-60's era?

63 or 64 I think.

 

[BLUEALLTHRU]

Seriously?
Is this the Hawks board?
Have a fu#@ing whinge.
Point the finger at the players or coach.

Exactly!!

Over the years you win some and lose some. I do not think it's a conspiracy.

 

[STP18]

http://www.geelongcats.com.au/news/2016-06-01/the-cats-big-issue

In last Sunday's loss to Carlton at Etihad Stadium, the Cats once again lost the free kick count by more than 10, conceding 22 free kicks to the Blues' 10 and, for the 10th time this season, conceding more than 20 free kicks in a game.

Geelong's free kick differential is -48 after 10 games, the worst in the competition.

No team has completed a season since 2001 conceding an average of 24.5 free kicks a game, the figure the Cats have averaged in the first 10 rounds this season.

Four Geelong players sit in the top 10 for free kicks against in 2016.

Eighteen of their players have negative free kick counts, and of the 13 AFL players who have conceded 10 or more free kicks than they've earned, four are Cats' players.

Conceding five free kicks without getting one himself last Sunday made Steven Motlop the worst offender (4 frees for/19 frees against) so far, but he has some mates.

Cam Guthrie (6/16), Rhys Stanley (9/19) and Andrew Mackie (2/12) are the other Cats in the -10 category, while Mitch Duncan (11/19) and Tom Hawkins (8/15) are hardly saints when it comes to free kick counts.

 

[Son_Of_God29]

Hoping we get a fair deal from umps on Saturday but not holding my breath we will b
Probably end up wih Stevic Nicholls and Panell know our luck

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Hoping we get a fair deal from umps on Saturday but not holding my breath we will b
Probably end up wih Stevic Nicholls and Panell know our luck

Add Mollison to that list... he's one of the most corrupt and incompetent.

 

[cats_09]

When do they announce the umpires for the weekends matches?

 

[Son_Of_God29]

When do they announce the umpires for the weekends matches?

Tomorrow

 

[Catman]

Add Mollison to that list... he's one of the most corrupt and incompetent.

Single-handedly screwed us against North last year at home - 12-28.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Single-handedly screwed us against North last year at home - 12-28.

That episode of finely tuned corruption will never escape my mind as long as my arse points to the ground.

 

[David the Cat]

Single-handedly screwed us against North last year at home - 12-28.

I think that was the worst exhibition of umpiring I have ever seen. 19 of the 28 frees against Geelong were given by Mollison.

He's one of these umpires who likes to impose himself on the game. The best umpires are hardly noticed.

 

[cats_09]

I think that was the worst exhibition of umpiring I have ever seen. 19 of the 28 frees against Geelong were given by Mollison.

He's one of these umpires who likes to impose himself on the game. The best umpires are hardly noticed.

Could not agree more with the bolder part, and the same goes for officials in all sports.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Nicholls, Hay and Jeffery

The latter is #29 whose tore us to shreds a couple of times.

 

[Catman]

Nicholls, Hay and Jeffery

The latter is #29 whose tore us to shreds a couple of times.

About the fifth time this year we've had him too. Nicholls is just incompetent.

Fully expect to be reamed again by them this week.

 

[BringBackTomFloyd]

About the fifth time this year we've had him too. Nicholls is just incompetent.

Fully expect to be reamed again by them this week.

Lets go back in Time - Sirengate - its just mind blowing what went on. I mean players are always telling the umpire week in week out, that the siren has gone, late in the last quarter in an attempt to sneak a win. The pure ignorance is what gets my blood boiling. - Read on - With 37 seconds remaining in the game, St Kilda's Leigh Montagna scored a goal to bring the Saints within one point of Fremantle. Following the centre bounce St Kilda moved the ball into their forward line where a pack formed about 45 metres from goal and a ball-up was called by the umpire with eight seconds remaining.

Nick Riewoldt (St Kilda) knocked the ball across the field and another pack formed as the official time-keeper's clock reached 0:00 (the time-keeper's clock is displayed on the television broadcast). The umpire, Matthew Nicholls, signalled another ball-up to restart play, oblivious to the siren which was barely audible over the vocal crowd. A number of Fremantle players, particularly Scott Thornton, appeared to have either heard the siren or reacted to other players hearing the siren.

At this point the Fremantle players began to celebrate what they thought was a one-point victory. Nicholls, however, did not hear the siren and refused to listen to the claims of Fremantle players, particularly Byron Schammer, that the siren had sounded. He also did not confer with the other two umpires as to whether the siren had sounded before restarting play.

The Fremantle players, who had converged around the ball-up celebrating and remonstrating with Nicholls, were unprepared when the ball spilled out of the contest and was cleared to St Kilda's Steven Baker. Baker, in the clear, kicked from about 35 metres out to win the game, just before being bumped by a desperate Daniel Gilmore(Fremantle). While this kick was in motion the time-keeper sounded the siren again and, this time, it was heard by one of the other field umpires, Hayden Kennedy. The rules of Australian football allow for kicks for goal to be counted if they are in the air when the umpire hears the siren.

Baker's shot for goal missed and scored a behind, worth one point, thus tying the scores at 94 apiece. At this point, confusion reigned. The three field umpires and goal umpire conferred to discuss the result. Unaware that the siren had sounded previously, Nicholls ruled that Baker's shot had been within game time, and also that Gilmore's late bump was illegal. If no score had been registered this would usually result in a downfield free kick, but under the circumstances it meant that Baker was given the option of letting the point that he'd scored stand (ensuring a draw would result) or cancelling the point and having a set shot for goal from the same place. The latter option would be a kick after the sirento win the game.

A number of Fremantle players, particularly Des Headland, overheard Nicholls stating that the point would not stand and again began to celebrate in the belief that they had been awarded the match, not realising that Baker had received a free kick. At this time Fremantle coach Chris Connolly and CEO Cameron Schwab had stormed onto the ground. St Kilda captain Lenny Hayes yelled at Connolly to leave the ground and former teammate Heath Black, now playing for Fremantle, stepped in to separate the two.

Baker elected to take another shot at goal but again kicked a behind. At this point the two goal umpires from either end met at the centre of the ground to compare their score sheets, as is standard practice after the conclusion of AFL matches. After a minute they signalled that the scores on the scoreboard were correct and that the match was a draw.

It later emerged that the time-keeper had believed that the first siren had been acknowledged when he saw the Fremantle players celebrating the win and the umpire calling for the ball. He then began to do paperwork, paying no attention to the continuing match, and was not made aware that play was continuing until a spectator got his attention by striking his window with an empty beer can. He then sounded the siren a second time, just after Baker's first kick for goal.[citation needed]

 

[catempire]

So, someone mentioned we talked to the AFL this week yeah?

Proof it works.

29-16 our way.

 

[Lana]

Everyone of them was justified

 

[catempire]

Everyone of them was justified

Yeah...um...that's what I meant.

 

[FredLeDeux]

Everyone of them was justified

You can't just go on the raw numbers, it was obvious to me reading the match-day thread that we were dudded yet again.