The last game of Razor Ray's career

[Off The Couch]

Which throw decision? Do you mean the rugby pass out of the contest and then the 1 handed punch..just because a player (or 2 in this case) make those sort of skill errors in front of their defensive goals doesn't mean they shouldn't have free kicks paid against them surely?

The amount of games where Razor Ray has ****ed us over it's about time he actually gave us a good run...just I know exactly what will be coming our way the next time he officiates a Fremantle game.

Your missing my point. Take who the teams are out of the discussion and what I'm saying is that umpires are influencing the outcomes of games. You either pay incorrect disposal all the time or not at all. There were quite a few throws today that were let go and may or may not have resulted in a goal but the rules then change and they pay one right in front of goal. It was the correct decision but when you let the previous ten go then it's wrong. Razor pays a free kick in front of goal for a jumper punch but pays nothing out on the boundary where McPhee throws quite a few jumper punches. It all comes back to consistency and I don't know if it's me but the umps this season seem more inconsistent than they have been in previous seasons

 

[The Mongrel Punt]

This problem should reach further than club alleigances. For a second, forget what team you support, and what's happened earlier in the season, and just look at what happened in this game. Something has to be done.

Good call, mate. Spot on. Umps, Chamberlain in particular had a horror run for ten mins in the third, which went a long way to switching momentum, and therefore had a marked influence on the game.

The 'throw' can be debated, but there is no excuse for dishing out a seventy metre penalty when fifty for such a minor infraction is too harsh.

Really frustrating to watch the game today, even as a neutral supporter. I can only feel for Swans fans today. Also, several Essendon fans in this thread have embarrassed themselves. Garbage umpiring is universal - not just when it happens to your team.

 

[Mister B]

I would challenge anyone to sit down and watch a replay of this game and come back and say the performance was anything short of sub-standard. Have a look at the majority of neutrals without an agenda (read some bitter Essendon fans) they have generally agreed that this was awful and one man was largely responsible.

Today I saw, for the first time, a game where an umpire looked to have come out with an agenda or a plan and stick with that all day. That agenda was to stick it to one of the two teams out on the field no matter the cost. This continued for all 4 quarters and with the exception of Brian Taylor had television and radio commentators stunned and at times somewhat embarrassed.

If this was a Collingwood home game and they were served up that crap not only would Ray Chamberlain have been lucky to get off the ground, I have little doubt he would receive death threats and the issue of incompetence would be in the papers for a week. Unfortunately, being an interstate team, nobody will speak up. And let me state that is not having a go at Collingwood, it is simply (and as much as I love to hate him) a fact that Eddie has the balls to stand up and not put up with s**t like we saw today.

 

[Plugger35]

Just for edification, Essendon fans are not only going on about rd 2 this year. We have been copping exactly what Sydney got today for YEARS at the SCG. To be fair, there is a lot of pent up frustration here.

Most games there are going to be a few bad decisions which in some cases you could argue have influenced results. The Essendon v Sydney game was one of those.

However this game and also The Whispers in the Sky game a few years ago are on another level of bad umpiring where you got the feeling that the umpires or an umpire in particular (ie. Razor Ray) were deliberately favouring a team.

You only have to look at this thread and the amount of neutral supporters disgusted by the umpiring today to see this was not your usual 'run of the mill' bad umpiring where the losing team's supporters whinge. It was a complete disgrace from start to finish (mainly due to Razor Ray) which just highlights how bad the umpiring is becoming.

It's getting to the stage where supporters and players should protest and say enough's enough and put a stop to this bullshit because it's just getting beyond a joke

 

[Homer Jnr]

All the complaining Sydney supporters should watch the replay of the Brisbane vs Geelong match tonight at 8.30 of Fox Sports 1. When you watch that and get a true understanding of abhorrent umpiring, then you can apologise for being so precious when you've benefitted so often from this plague.

 

[Rabbit of Caerbannog]

However this game and also The Whispers in the Sky game a few years ago are on another level of bad umpiring where you got the feeling that the umpires or an umpire in particular (ie. Razor Ray) were deliberately favouring a team.

You didn't watch the Sydney-Essendon match if you think it was just run of the mill bad umpiring. When have you EVER seen a free kick count as lopsided as 30-9 over 3 quarters in a competitive match? Today was nothing when you compare it to the disgusting BS we had to put up with.

 

[walken79]

You know what? Yes, yes we were. We dominated the clearances, our spread was good, our skills were relatively clean, our goalkicking was pretty decent. Yeah, we were the ****ing better team today. A lot of games this year we have played pretty poorly but won anyway. Today, the team put in a bloody great effort, they played better than their opponents, and weren't rewarded.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Ah, a sweet victory and a good laugh after, makes for a nice Sunday arvo.

Nat Fyfe was your problem today, not Razor Ray

 

[Off The Couch]

All the complaining Sydney supporters should watch the replay of the Brisbane vs Geelong match tonight at 8.30 of Fox Sports 1. When you watch that and get a true understanding of abhorrent umpiring, then you can apologise for being so precious when you've benefitted so often from this plague.

So I have read on other threads.


The consensus is then that the standard of umpiring across the board is a disgrace and a complete review is required

 

[Toshowyouwhy]

So I have read on other threads.


The consensus is then that the standard of umpiring across the board is a disgrace and a complete review is required

Exactly. I've been saying it all year.

 

[vonn]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Ah, a sweet victory and a good laugh after, makes for a nice Sunday arvo.



Nat Fyfe was your problem today, not Razor Ray

Don't be a sore loser, it makes you look pathetic.

 

[Plugger35]

You didn't watch the Sydney-Essendon match if you think it was just run of the mill bad umpiring. When have you EVER seen a free kick count as lopsided as 30-9 over 3 quarters in a competitive match? Today was nothing when you compare it to the disgusting BS we had to put up with.

I'll take your word for it, I can only remember a couple of bad calls at the end of the game which probably cost Essendon the game.

Anyway I think it's pretty clear that the umpiring across the board is getting worse, you can put up with a few bad calls here and there but not games like today's game where the umpires have such a big impact on the result.

 

[Mister B]

You didn't watch the Sydney-Essendon match if you think it was just run of the mill bad umpiring. When have you EVER seen a free kick count as lopsided as 30-9 over 3 quarters in a competitive match? Today was nothing when you compare it to the disgusting BS we had to put up with.

WOW!!! A thread about the standard of umpiring by an individual umpire and Essendon supporters can only talk about how hard done by they are. Do people still get carded for not being on topic?

Anyway, I will restate my point of view. For a consistent display of ineptitude over 4 quarters, Chamberlain's effort today was as bad as I have ever seen. This must be addressed and responded to.

 

[legend166]

This idea that the Swans get a dream run from the umpires is a myth.

Now, I know that simply looking at the free kick count is by no means a way to determine if a game was fairly umpired. But if one team was unfairly favoured by umpires, you'd assume it would be reflected in the stats over a long period, no?

2011 is the first year since 2004 the Swans have been in the positive in terms of the frees for differential against our opponents. In that time:

2005: 16th (-97 frees for)
2006: 16th (-87 frees for)
2007: 16th (-104 frees for - next closest was Adelaide with -59)
2008: 12th (-37 frees for)
2009: 13th (-50 frees for)
2010: 11th (-5 frees for)
2011: 7th (+7 frees for)

But by all means, let's continue the myth that somehow the Swans are the umpires pets. For years we couldn't buy a free kick simply because we had Barry Hall in our team.

 

[captain peanut]

i only saw the last quarter of the swans-freo game. i thought the umpiring in that quarter was pretty good. an excellent decision by whichever umpire paid the 50m penalty against kennelly late in the game - he was clearly slow in getting the ball back to the freo player and was trying to hold it up so the swans could get back and man up. as i watched it i thought that is 50 but the ump won't have the balls to pay it, kudos to whichever ump it was

 

[skipper kelly]

All the complaining Sydney supporters should watch the replay of the Brisbane vs Geelong match tonight at 8.30 of Fox Sports 1. When you watch that and get a true understanding of abhorrent umpiring, then you can apologise for being so precious when you've benefitted so often from this plague.

stop whinging

 

[Mister B]

This idea that the Swans get a dream run from the umpires is a myth.

Now, I know that simply looking at the free kick count is by no means a way to determine if a game was fairly umpired. But if one team was unfairly favoured by umpires, you'd assume it would be reflected in the stats over a long period, no?

2011 is the first year since 2004 the Swans have been in the positive in terms of the frees for differential against our opponents. In that time:

2005: 16th (-97 frees for)
2006: 16th (-87 frees for)
2007: 16th (-104 frees for - next closest was Adelaide with -59)
2008: 12th (-37 frees for)
2009: 13th (-50 frees for)
2010: 11th (-5 frees for)
2011: 7th (+7 frees for)

But by all means, let's continue the myth that somehow the Swans are the umpires pets. For years we couldn't buy a free kick simply because we had Barry Hall in our team.

Absolute crap...... we all know that facts and logic hold no weight against generalised statements about a team being umpires pets without any evidence to back it up.

 

[Righteo]

This game could cost us a finals spot. Tough run home now!

We can only hope so. The less teams making up the numbers like Sydney in the finals the better.

 

[No1SwansFan]

Irony from an Essendon supporter - I seem to recall Essendon winning a game against Sydney a few years back courtesy of a player who was clearly out of bounds.



Umpiring has been poor, but Sydney have been far worse. Dreadful coaching, poor play and just not a good side.

Coincidentally the player involved in that was also a part of a bit of biffo today as well wearing different colours. Wonder which certain bomber it was paying umpires a while back

 

[GordonGecko]

Thought Ray umpired well.

 

[BIGBEZ]

Razor Ray is a parasite that was a disgrace... To get this many posts in the boring umpiring section of bigfooty pretty much says it all.

 

[Mister Football]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Ah, a sweet victory and a good laugh after, makes for a nice Sunday arvo.

Nat Fyfe was your problem today, not Razor Ray

I want to see Fremantle do well, and I hope you guys win a premiership for Pav because he's a champ. Don't be so childish, the natural reaction after such incidents is to be frustrated. I wouldn't rub it in if Freo copped a rough deal after a game, so please do the same and respect our frustration.

Like I said, I have nothing against Freo. Good club.

 

[Jentleman Geff]

i only saw the last quarter of the swans-freo game. i thought the umpiring in that quarter was pretty good. an excellent decision by whichever umpire paid the 50m penalty against kennelly late in the game - he was clearly slow in getting the ball back to the freo player and was trying to hold it up so the swans could get back and man up. as i watched it i thought that is 50 but the ump won't have the balls to pay it, kudos to whichever ump it was

Exactly - it's a 50 every day of the week!

I can't believe the whinging. My bet is Paul Roos scoffing and sulking influenced some fans' opinions.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

This idea that the Swans get a dream run from the umpires is a myth.

Now, I know that simply looking at the free kick count is by no means a way to determine if a game was fairly umpired. But if one team was unfairly favoured by umpires, you'd assume it would be reflected in the stats over a long period, no?

2011 is the first year since 2004 the Swans have been in the positive in terms of the frees for differential against our opponents. In that time:

2005: 16th (-97 frees for)
2006: 16th (-87 frees for)
2007: 16th (-104 frees for - next closest was Adelaide with -59)
2008: 12th (-37 frees for)
2009: 13th (-50 frees for)
2010: 11th (-5 frees for)
2011: 7th (+7 frees for)

But by all means, let's continue the myth that somehow the Swans are the umpires pets. For years we couldn't buy a free kick simply because we had Barry Hall in our team.

But but i thought it was the AFL job to gift us flags

 

[Oliver09]

Wow, Essendon supporter's true colours coming out in this thread. The umpiring was disgraceful, and something needs to be done. Grow up you knobs. Ftr, the umps kept u in the game in rd 2, a point missed on most of you idiots.

30-9 frees Sydneys way, 5 which resulted directly in goals (3 to Bolton alone) in 3 quarters kept us in the game? That is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. Did you even see the game? I hope you're taking the piss.

 

[SaintsManMat]

Ray Chamberlain does whatever he can to draw attention to himself by making a "big" decision which will affect the outcome of the game

Hes a typical egotisical umpire, they are all the same, i work with an AFL umpire and hes the same, loves attention, and does anything to bring it on himself

his umpiring today was nothing short of atrocious