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Cunnington ftw said:
I am considering studying law, but am unsure at what level.

Any advice would be most welcome :)
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What is your aim at the end of it all?

More employable? Fancy degree? Work in legal dept.? General knowledge?

Where will you be working after the law study?

This may help.

Bachelor of Laws you're looking at 4 years full time study, maybe 3 if you complement it with summer school.

Wasn't sure that you could study Masters of Law without a bachelor of laws preceding it, but again, not sure how much it'll add. Depends on your aims and motivation.
 
Thanks chenyan

My aim is to increase my legal knowledge and therefore employability. I work in business consulting but beyond that I have no firm ideal employment.

In terms of the Bachelor of Laws it would be three years for graduate entry. But I have no plans to give up full-time work and don't feel like taking 7-8 years to complete a degree, especially when I don't want to practice law!

A Master of Commercial Law can be studied without an LLB, but a Master of Law requires an LLB.

Hope that helps.
 
Cunnington you may be able to complete a Bachelor of Laws quicker if you are able to claim credits for some subjects. I have just taken a year off my degree from a previous course I was studying before I decided to change.

You can also claim credits from things such as workplace jobs, experiences etc so it may be in your interest just to investigate how many subjects you could gain credits for.
 
j2kboiz said:
Cunnington you may be able to complete a Bachelor of Laws quicker if you are able to claim credits for some subjects. I have just taken a year off my degree from a previous course I was studying before I decided to change.

You can also claim credits from things such as workplace jobs, experiences etc so it may be in your interest just to investigate how many subjects you could gain credits for.
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Thanks j2kboiz - I think I'd be able to get it down to three years but I'd be really pushing it with workplace experience.

At the moment I am planning to do a unit that will count towards my current Masters but also counts toward the three post-graduate programs I highlighted previously.
 

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Cunnington ftw said:
Thanks j2kboiz - I think I'd be able to get it down to three years but I'd be really pushing it with workplace experience.

At the moment I am planning to do a unit that will count towards my current Masters but also counts toward the three post-graduate programs I highlighted previously.
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The Juris doctrate JD would be a good option. Assuming you are in Melbourne Monash offer it part time at their city campus as well which would work well with work. Melbourne also offer it as well.
 
deeman12 said:
Impossible brahz. 50% assignment and 50% exams. I like the assignments though. Don't want to put all my eggs in the same basket with a 100% mark allocation to the exam.
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Only in first semester of first year of law. After that do the 100% exam.
 
chenyan said:
Only in first semester of first year of law. After that do the 100% exam.
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Really? I'm at La Trobe though, not Deakin. That's something I'll think more about after I finish exams this semester. I just want to gauge whether I'm a better performer on exams or assignments.
 

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deeman12 said:
Got my first law assignment back. A solid 72%, which I'm happy with.

How are we all going with our scores?
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Had a few assessments - 75%, 85% and 85%. Still waiting on two more items.
 
Chief said:
You guys get a choice?
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Yeah, sorry, I assumed it was common practice among law schools. For most law units it is either a 100% exam or a 70% exam and 30% assignment. Typically, very few students do the optional assignment and their work is therefore given a higher degree of scrutiny due to the low number of papers that the unit chair has to mark. A flow on effect from this is that only the best writers (or their tutors, :() attempt optional essays with this in mind. Consequently, it becomes far more difficult to achieve a high grade against such high competition.
 
Chief said:
Had a few assessments - 75%, 85% and 85%. Still waiting on two more items.
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Woo hoo - 90% for my essay. I forgot to include a form so would have lost a mark or two for "document management". Crappy seeing as the assignment submission rules are like something out of a Communist Russian bureaucracy.

However, I know I will be smashed in the exams.


Our units are a mix of assessment. For instance Contracts A is

Tutorial Participation - 15%
Negotiation Exercise - 10% - Done through an online video/Q&A system.
Multi-Choice - 20% (But only counts if it improves your overall mark. I got 17/20 but the average was something ridiculous like 11 or 12)
Final exam - 55% (or 75% if you bombed on the MCE)

Weekly two hour tutorials, and a few lectures scattered around that just cover questions people post on the message board. Apparently once they stopped having weekly lectures and emphasised the tutorials the pass rate shot up.

Other stuff they have are videos posted online to cover tricky points or just introduce content and an online interactive quiz system.

A 100% final exam sounds like something out of the 1800's to me. Pens, ink pots and be-robed lecturers prowling up and down the line with a cane for boys who lift their eyes from their papers.
 
1 unit next semester and I have a law degree (and politics), pretty exciting.

HOWEVER

Once I started on the 'real' units, read: Procedure and Commercial Practice, I decided - this isn't for me. I'm finishing my degree but not doing a clerkship or grad program. Lucky the degree is versatile eh? I'm gonna be applying for DFAT, so competitive but foreign relations has been a keen interest of mine for years and years. Good luck with your exams everyone :D
 

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j2kboiz said:
Sickening :cool:
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Haha, their idealistic heart is in the right place, but I'd say a bit misguided.

On a brief aside, I dread the workload for the substantive law units, but I'm genuinely excited about where this degree can and hopefully will take me.
 
deeman12 said:
Haha, their idealistic heart is in the right place, but I'd say a bit misguided.

On a brief aside, I dread the workload for the substantive law units, but I'm genuinely excited about where this degree can and hopefully will take me.
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Haha you could say that. They mean well but are a painful bunch. Bill of Rights blah blah that:p

Yeah the work load is crazy, I really haven't done enough this semester. Really need to step it up next semester.
 
j2kboiz said:
Haha you could say that. They mean well but are a painful bunch. Bill of Rights blah blah that:p

Yeah the work load is crazy, I really haven't done enough this semester. Really need to step it up next semester.
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Work load has been reasonably easy for first semester, first year law. Do you mind if I ask where you're studying?
 

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