Autopsy The Luke Beveridges coaching idiocy throws away the game thread.

[hutchy31]

Are you all watching this presser?!

“No matter who’s in there we lose the hit outs”

Then pick a ****ing afl ruck you imbecile.

I can’t. Anymore. I just can’t. I’m broken.......

 

[Mattdougie]

Beveridge's presser was as weak as piss. Seriously Luke - stop taking the piss. You and the selection committee are pathetic. No ruckmen at all?? Tim English was cooked three weeks ago. Dickson isn't ready to play Manangatang thirds. How flaming useless is our club? Stand up to the elf-satisfied, smug bullshit from our coach for goodness sakes. And Beveridge's performance in the post game presser shows that he had no answers.

It’s the same cut and paste sh!t every loss

I don’t even listen anymore

 

[ScottyDogg]

Tell me if I have this right. We lose by less than 2 goals to what is likely the eventual premiers, having 2 on the bench for a good chunk of the game, and people are calling for coaches and players to be sacked?

Yes. Regardless of what people think, we have the cattle. That’s the 2nd time this year we have completely dominated a top team (Port) in the first half and been totally over run.

With good selection, coaching, and leadership our current group could easily be top 4.

 

[revo333]

I promise you we will not win a flag with Beveridge in charge.

 

[fugitive]

Hey guys, just got off glued to my screen the whole game, wow what a contest, I thought Geelong were going to bring the flood on in the first quarter after the onslaught but a couple of things really stood out to me:

1. your fast ball transition that killed Geelong in the first quarter completely ground to a halt and only reappeared briefly early in the final quarter was just really surprised Bevo didn’t employ tactics to counter act Geelongs controlled game with more kicks to get closer to your forward 50 and a few easy misses didn’t help
2. Blicavs and Hawkins really smashed you in the ruck it was like a rewind tape watching them plucking the ball out of mid air repeatedly

Good luck, hope to see you play finals.

 

[Struggle]

I agree. But the question then is, if he hasn't taken the season seriously, why? And the next question - why should he be coach next year? You can't just take a year off while you're the senior coach, so maybe you shouldn't be the senior coach. All we've heard in after-match is excuses for woeful team selections, and ruck tactics. Maybe the whole coaching panel needs a clean sweep. It's not the worst suggestion I've made to myself tonight.

Because we can't afford to pay them out

 

[Pagnoccolo C]

How is there not room for another ruck. We won a ****ing flag with 2 genuine rucks.

Absolute crazyness. Our mids deserve better.

I heard Bevo during the week say they won’t play Sweet yet as he’s not quite ready for AFL and they don’t want to set him up for failure. Huh. What have we been doing to Tim all this time and I’m pretty sure the Dunks experiment could quite reasonably be classed as failure ffs.

 

[Dogs Rule]

JJ kicks the easiest of goals and you are playing finals.

It's really as simple as that.

It is and we f***** it up. For that there needs to be a fallout. There needs to be accountability. We could’ve sealed a spot in finals, instead we’ll miss out now.

For a club like ours which has battled for success, finals is a big deal. In a year like this when all members have seen no matches live and are disconnected from the club, we need hope. We need something to grab on to. All we get is a coaching staff that treats the side as a Nutty Professor experiment.

 

[fronkalicious]

Geelong had the 10 most experienced players in the game.

Keep rebuilding Beveridge. Good call.

 

[Dogsman16]

Are you all watching this presser?!

“No matter who’s in there we lose the hit outs”

Then pick a ******* afl ruck you imbecile.

I can’t. Anymore. I just can’t. I’m broken.......

Surely there is someone in the list management department who is accountable for the thin ruck stocks we possess.

Instead of having about 20 smalls we can rotate in and out who don't really do much. I mean sure hes probably a good bloke but someone like Cal Porter, whats his purpose on the list. Why can't we have extra ruck depth instead.

 

[Lex22]

Beveridge even more clueless in the presser about the ruck situation.

 

[Blueballs38]

feel for you guys ... exactly like us losing to the Dawks ... 6 goals up quarter time and then we got pantsed.

At least our humiliation was over at 3 quarter time ... harder when its with 2 minutes to go.

Can understand why Bruce frustrates you guys at the moment. JJ been drinking hush own bath water since 2016 ... should have iced the game.

Good luck next year, hard to see u8n playing finals from here ... not impossible though.

 

[ScottyDogg]

Chin up fellas you blokes played very well last week

Not really. Your mob was atrocious.

 

[dergert]

Just devo that ive lost faith in bevo.

 

[XQC08]

Perhaps I should've said "another flag", but I'm on my phone, so forgive some missed words.

2016 is a cursed flag. Yeah, you'd still take it, but it's already had negative ramifications.

 

[bresker]

49 -13 in hitouts

Bev just used the words "edgy and different" to describe our ruck set up

Beveridges disdain for the ruck craft has truly gotten out of hand now.

Last week he won the game when he came to his senses and ran Bruce through the middle of the ground. This week he thought better of this winning strategy and ran Dunkley as relief for English for large portions of the game. A decision that all but handed the game to the cats when Blicavs absolutely torched us around the ground by giving first use to the cats smalls. As if that wasn't galling enough we had the incongruous sight of watching Dunkley go up against Blicavs numerous times when the ball was in our half with English standing ineffectively 30 metres away, when we already has a useless tall in Bruce down there.

Blicavs is a really good footballer, he's won their B & F a few times in very good teams. Putting Dunkley up against him was frankly insulting. You want an extra midfielder at the contest...Blicavs is twice the player that English & Dunks is

 

[Chicago1]

As I said in the Game Day thread : that reminded me of the 90s against Geelong. I really should hate them more than I do.

JJ missing that goal was the low light for me. That sick feeling began to fester in my gut and it wasn't caused by the sushi I had eaten. Has happened too many times before against Geelong. So many errors. Just so many. Playing two down wasn't the best, but JHC a few players should hang their heads in shame. I think I'll pass on Bevo's brief. I heard enough BS during the RNC this week. He's got some 'splaining to do.

 

[Del165892]

Weird game.

We looked great in the first quarter. We were playing with a confidence I haven't seen all year. No idea where it came from but we were magnificent. As always though you have to wonder how much of that was Geelong not showing up and letting us do what we want. There was always the question of whether or not we could sustain it and what would happen once Geelong got going.

For the next three quarters it really just felt like us desperately defending our first quarter lead. We were slowly outplayed and outmuscled by a better and more experienced team. It did feel like we went into our shells a bit after that first quarter. Maybe because at that point it became our game to lose.

Personally I felt like this was our least disappointing loss of the season. You have to imagine the early injuries factored into the result and we all know we had some passengers tonight.

Enough has been said about the guys who gave us nothing tonight so I won't mention them. However, it does seem to be a common theme that one or two players are playing absolute shockers every week.

The positives:

Naughton: Absolutely love watching this kid play. He's so bloody exciting and he's got xfactor. We will win a lot of matches off his boot.

Hunter: So impressive yet again. We've missed him this year.

Will Hayes: Showed some real maturity and gave us plenty of run. Came up with a huge play in the final quarter which almost got us home.

Overall I wasn't too bothered about the loss in the context of finals. I'd probably rather not limp into finals this year because I just don't see us making any impact. I'm not interested in another embarrassing first week exit. I think the defining point in our season was the three games against Richmond, Port and Brisbane. After losing those three consecutively we showed where we are at this year and since then we've just been going through the motions. I'm optimistic about next year. Go Dogs.

 

[dogwatch]

Pretty simple I would've thought.

1. Having just two on the bench for a half (54 minutes) clearly took its toll and we really missed Vandermeer's run.
2. Can't win games having goalless quarters
3. Why was Cavarra dropped?
4. Where is Cordy?
5. How about sticking some tackles?

Now here is the usual...

Ruck Contests (Hitouts/To Advantage)
43 - English (10/1)
26 - Dunkley (3/1)
5 - Macrae (0/0)
5 - Bruce (0/0)
1 - Bontempelli (0/0)

WB: 80 (13/2)
GE: 80 (49/12)

Tackle Efficiency
WB: 49%
GE: 63%

Turnovers Punished By Goal
2 - Johannisen
1 - Hunter, Macrae, McLean

Shots At Goal
WB: 16 (56%)
GE: 20 (50%)

Targets Inside 50
9 - Bruce
6 - English
4 - Wallis, Naughton
2 - Bontempelli
1 - Hunter

WB Kicks Inside 50
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Pressure Guage
WB: 196 (Above Average)
GE: 187 (Average)

After Q1 (WB/GE)
First Possession - 21/36
Inside 50s - 21/34
Shots - 7/18
Turnovers Punished By Goal - 5/0

Score Sources
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Those on Gardner watch here are his matchups...

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Thanks for these GO.
Just so I can see what the norm is, couuld you post equivalent matchup tables for say Keath, Williams and Crozier please?

I feel sorry for Gardner because the last goal (to Rohan) was a shocking turnover from Macrae. Hard to blame him for that. In fact Rohan's a shocking matchup generally. Rohan would be one of the fastest players on the ground.

There's a lot of OTT Gardner bashing that goes on here. I realise he's not the answer and we need Cordy back ASAP but I thought he did OK tonight. Pretty poor form from those who were getting stuck into him from the opening bounce.

 

[Struggle]

Are you all watching this presser?!

“No matter who’s in there we lose the hit outs”

Then pick a ******* afl ruck you imbecile.

I can’t. Anymore. I just can’t. I’m broken.......

There's losing hitouts and there's preventing the other team hitting it exactly where they want. Trengove can do it, Naughton can do it, Sweet can probably do it. He's lost it.

 

[bullish23]

It’s a big off season for Bains. Has to replace the Mercedes sponsorship. He also has show leadership and challenge the senior coach on his unorthodox methods and potentially oversee some changes to the Football dept.

Bains is part of the old boys network who’s had a fairly charmed run. About to see if he can deliver.

 

[Sentinel]

As incredibly frustrating at losing the game tonight was, this should have been a game we could afford to lose and still not be on the edge of dropping out of finals contention. ****ing around across the whole season with dumb selection and ridiculous inconsistency has led us to this point. We just refuse to grow up.

Unless we win the last 3 and scrape into the 8, this is another wasted season. Even if we do scrape in, it very much will likely be the same anyway.

 

[Glaeken Oracle]

Beveridge has just admitted he doesn't know how to coach rucks, or manage team selection to at least mitigate our ruck situation. So English, Sweet and Trengove all out at the end of the year, I guess. Jamarra can jump, maybe just play him there, eh Bevo? What a fantastic piece of theatre in the presser. Does he even care anymore? #Bevoout

 

[wian]

Ffs get some ******* pride you lot.

Geeeeloong got their usual quota of dodgy frees, we had two on the bench, one from the first quarter, If they gloat it is a hollow victory. They are going no where, the same since 2012, make finals and ******* crash out.

Rest assured when the heat is on in a big finals game, Dangerfield will be nowhere to be seen as usual playing for frees and they will bring out their handbags and choke as usual

 

[Optimistic Dog]

We should calm down thought we pretty good but need to get better. Some Observations

Bont is good but he is no Dangerfield
Losing 2 players hurt especially the pace of Vanders
You knew Gardner on Rohan was going to be a problem Wood could have played on him last quarter if not injured
Dickson is finished
Bruce is a waste of money that was a crucial miss in the second quarter
JJ costly miss and a fumble
English needs to a lot stronger and we need a proper second ruckman
Crozier takes some great marks and is courageous but if does not take them it can cost us
Hayes was not our worst but is not up to it

In theory we could still make it if WE beat WC we should beat the hawks and Freo but would be just making up the numbers.