The Manager Merry-go-Round

[Cruyff14]

Ange was in a lose/lose situation.

I am not sure how beneficial it would have been for him to stay on either.

League form was horrific, but it can be argued because of that, they now have a trophy.

Levy is also a fackwit.

 

[FreoRicci]

Ange was in a lose/lose situation.

I am not sure how beneficial it would have been for him to stay on either.

League form was horrific, but it can be argued because of that, they now have a trophy.

Levy is also a fackwit.

2 seasons is hardly a long term plan. Minimum 3-5.

Would love to have seen what Levy would do if he had Arteta. Last won the FA Cup in 2020.

 

[Cruyff14]

2 seasons is hardly a long term plan. Minimum 3-5.

Would love to have seen what Levy would do if he had Arteta. Last won the FA Cup in 2020.

Yes, managers need time.

Arteta wouldn't have lasted because Levy does not have the patience.

And even though you hate Arteta, he has clearly improved the club's reputation/performances/players.

 

[jd2010]

I genuinely wonder if the views here would be the same if he wasn’t Australian.

I couldn't care less if he was Russian, English or from Tanzania

He achieved our greatest season in 40 odd years

Games about glory moments. Had eyes on one prize from January. Delivered it. Got CL football. Unless we sign Klopp or Xavi it's a backwards step.

Unsurprising with the stupidity of Levy though.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

The transfer budget wasn't terrible, but the club invested in Bergvall, Gray, Odobert, Vuskovic for 100m odd. None of whom were ready to tangibly impact this season.
If that's spent on two or 3 first team ready players the seasons completely different but so is the ceiling on the squad

I would disagree. Realistically when you look at what top teams are spending now (and I know some of them waste $) but they needed to spend 200m mil to give the squad the depth they needed. This is exactly my point levy refuses to fire managers when the inevitable injuries lead to them having to play kids as he won't bolster the squad depth.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I can tell you what an unacceptable league result is. 17th with 38 points.

What faith could they possibly have that he’d fare any better this upcoming season when the European teams they’ll be playing are far superior to the ones they’ve just played?

What they’ve essentially done here is avoided sacking him 3 months into the season when the league form had continued to be poor.

If they sacked themselves then they would have more credibility in trying to sack the manager without being a hypocrite. Which is the real issue here.

 

[FreoRicci]

Yes, managers need time.

Arteta wouldn't have lasted because Levy does not have the patience.

And even though you hate Arteta, he has clearly improved the club's reputation/performances/players.

I may dislike Arteta, but there’s no doubting what he has brought to Arsenal- stability, good football and will to win. Can’t deny he has been positive. May dislike him as a character but he still does wonders.

Just funny what some chairman/owners expect. Arteta in other clubs with certain ownership- goneeeee. He certainly would’ve been pushed by 2022 according to Levy.

 

[Brad Goodman]

Some proper delusions of grandeur from Spurs fans, considering the following teams will be consistently finishing ahead of them over the next 5-10 years, regardless of who is in charge

Liverpool
Arsenal
Man City
Newcastle
Chelsea
Aston Villa
Man United if/when they get their shit together

 

[brutus76]

Get Sir Gareth Southgate for Spurs - please!!!!!

 

[jd2010]

I find it funny how some people couldn't compartmentalize the league form and going for the Europa League.

Sad thing is we have idiots in charge who also couldn't. Ange said so himself. There were many higher ups at Spurs who didn't agree with his approach to go all in on the EL and sacrifice some league points along the way

 

[jd2010]

Ange won't be without suitors

Whereas our job the best won't want to come near. Klopp won't touch it with a 10 foot pole.

Landing Thomas frank whose greatest finish is 9th after winning a Europa League would be Peak ENIC

Sacked George Graham days before a cup semi final. Mourinho before a final against Pep. Poch a few months into what he described was a painful rebuild.

Unless you're just in it for the pay day, do not take our job until ENIC are gone or you've only managed smaller clubs like Frank and Redknapp at the time

 

[FreoRicci]

Some proper delusions of grandeur from Spurs fans, considering the following teams will be consistently finishing ahead of them over the next 5-10 years, regardless of who is in charge

Liverpool
Arsenal
Man City
Newcastle
Chelsea
Aston Villa
Man United if/when they get their shit together

Add Brighton, Nottingham, Brentford and Bournemouth.
Teams are very competitive and can make top
4-6 on their good day.

 

[FreoRicci]

I would disagree. Realistically when you look at what top teams are spending now (and I know some of them waste $) but they needed to spend 200m mil to give the squad the depth they needed. This is exactly my point levy refuses to fire managers when the inevitable injuries lead to them having to play kids as he won't bolster the squad depth.

He got 100m for Harry Kane. Replaced him with who? Solanke?
No wonder Spurs aren’t top 4.

Delusion of grandeur

 

[Art Vandelay_]

If you could stop commenting JD that would be swell. Stupidity with every sentence.

74 from 66. P45 worthy league form.

 

[Brad Goodman]

Spurs achieved more than Arsenal this season lol

 

[jd2010]

If you could stop commenting JD that would be swell. Stupidity with every sentence.

74 from 66. P45 worthy league form.

Most successful season we've had since 91

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Most successful season we've had since 91

Most losses in the league in something like 90 years.
Fans in London largely agreeing with the decision. Bias Aussies not so much.

The league cannot be ignored.

 

[jd2010]

Most losses in the league in something like 90 years.
Fans in London largely agreeing with the decision. Bias Aussies not so much.

The league cannot be ignored.

6th to 17th are much of a muchness

English can't be relied upon for winning mentality. They're the epitome of a loser mentality

Give me 13th and an FA Cup win than a meaningless Thomas Frank 7th placed finish with no cup runs any day of the week

 

[Art Vandelay_]

6th to 17th are much of a muchness

English can't be relied upon for winning mentality. They're the epitome of a loser mentality

Give me 13th and an FA Cup win than a meaningless Thomas Frank 7th placed finish with no cup runs any day of the week

Happy we won the cup.

But you cannot excuse 38 points. Or 1.12 over 66 games.
You are excusing this season because we won a cup. But we've been shit for a lot longer than that and it absolutely is an important factor.

All we've done is avoided sacking him in November when we're on a handful points and 17th to 24th in the UCL.

 

[jd2010]

Happy we won the cup.

But you cannot excuse 38 points. Or 1.12 over 66 games.
You are excusing this season because we won a cup. But we've been shit for a lot longer than that and it absolutely is an important factor.

All we've done is avoided sacking him in November when we're on a handful points and 17th to 24th in the UCL.

THIS IS THE LITERAL EXCUSE FOR 38 POINTS

 

[Art Vandelay_]

THIS IS THE LITERAL EXCUSE FOR 38 POINTS

And the last 28 games last season with 40 points?

Abandoning his style in Europe to win it because his style would have had us out at Frankfurt shows why he should be out.

Europa was never saving him.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Even when he didnt have injuries Spurs form was poor.

 

[jd2010]

How thick must people be to not see the clear priority shift resulting in dropped points.

Thurs - Win EL semi final with Romero, Kulu and VDV
Sun - Lose with Ben Davies, Gray and Danso

Thurs - Win EL semi final with Romero, VDV, Maddison, Solanke, Porro
Sun - Draw with Danso, Davies, Odobert, Tel, Gray

Thurs - Win at Frankfurt
Sun - Lose at home taking off players for scheduled rests at HT

Thurs - Draw with Frankfurt with Romero, Porro and VDV
Sun - Lose at Wolves. Gray at RB. Ben Davies starting.

1 out of 12 points there. If the focus hadn't have shifted and we played Davies, Danso and Gray in the EL we'd be knocked out but probably got 7 more points in the league.

Not to mention the VERY SLOW safety first approach bringing back Romero and VDV where they could have come back into the league side earlier. But we earmarked the Frankfurt games for them to come back in. And sacrificed more games playing reserve players

 

[jd2010]

Even when he didnt have injuries Spurs form was poor.

We were 7th pre injuries pre Xmas

Lost to Ipswich where it kept us 7th and a win would have got us to 3rd

Funny thing with 7th.... it's 2 places higher in the PL than Thomas Frank has ever finished. And is probably the pass mark for us now next season, should he arrive

 

[Bradesmaen]

We were 7th pre injuries pre Xmas

Lost to Ipswich where it kept us 7th and a win would have got us to 3rd

Funny thing with 7th.... it's 2 places higher in the PL than Thomas Frank has ever finished. And is probably the pass mark for us now next season, should he arrive

7th. That's not great for the money spent and the squad. What are your excuses for the 4-2 loss to Wolves? Starting 11 was pretty decent. I think what you're saying is the players did the heavy lifting and Ange couldn't manage his way out of a paper bag. Even in the final United probably should have won.

Brentford barely spend a cent and they lost Ivan Toney.