Review The Multicultural Collingwood Thread re

[CFC2010]

If Australia played Greece in the final.. I'd support Australia..

Always re.

 

[BringouttheGimp]

Always re.

You can get shitfaced with more folk on the weekend re.. that to me seals the deal re..

 

[WalterBlaknWhte]

If Australia played Greece in the final.. I'd support Australia..

Even if you had your smoking hot second cousin from Thessaloniki nuzzled against you? xx

 

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[BringouttheGimp]

Even if you had your smoking hot second cousin from Thessaloniki nuzzled against you? xx

I'd say maybe.. but it's bigfooty.. so I'm gonna have to say.. 'that's disguuuusting re.. ewwww'..

You're a f great re..

 

[BringouttheGimp]

Meteora.. the most amazing place on earth.

Please guys.. incorporate it into your Greek holiday..

 

[ottoman]

You can get shitfaced with more folk on the weekend re.. that to me seals the deal re..

post of the year

 

[ottoman]

No you are misunderstanding me, people will say they have a background of 'X' ethnicity when asked specifically about their heritage, but refer to themselves as American/Australian in general or at worst an Italian/Greek/African - American (Australian).

I'm talking about people who call themselves or identify as purely greek/italian/french/new zealand/african/indian etc full stop, but are Australian raised and born some even 3rd generation+ and mixed ethnicity, they will often support that nation vs their own country for example.

I understand the point you're making perfectly Loki.

Quite often it's due to upbringing. That ideology is ingrained into them as children. Much like a religious ideology may be ingrained into children.
I was fortunate as when my parents first moved to Aus they saw the problems back then within the Turkish community in Aus so dad bought a house far away from the suburbs where Turks lived so they wouldn't influence me and my brother growing up. Mornington Peninsula to be exact. So I never got that indoctrination. Sure my parents still passed on those bits of the Turkish culture which they thought was beneficial to us but never went over the top.

 

[Kreme Pie]

Just saw this ad on the big screen at today's game. One of the greats re.

 

[Vicky Park]

Because Australia has an uncultured, violent, boring, ugly and very new history with not too much to be proud of at all really. There is no such thing as Australian blood also- Indigenous blood is Australian.


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60,000 plus years of people living on this continent and you call that ‘new’? OK.

 

[loki04]

Because Australia has an uncultured, violent, boring, ugly and very new history with not too much to be proud of at all really. There is no such thing as Australian blood also- Indigenous blood is Australian.


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Show me a country that doesn't have a violent history.

Uncultured? Well this is a doozy given indigenous culture is very old, many non indigenous Aus also have culture that has been building over generations, we have melding pot of various cultures in fact.

Not much to be proud of? Well maybe you need to do some research into what many great things that have been invented by Australians both in medical fields and many other areas. Also many great and inspiring acts.

 

[Daicos Torpedo]

Positive thread.
Leave old grieve at the door

 

[Albert Parker]

Because Australia has an uncultured, violent, boring, ugly and very new history with not too much to be proud of at all really. There is no such thing as Australian blood also- Indigenous blood is Australian.


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Are you OK re?

There is no such thing as Australian blood also- Indigenous blood is Australian. - Nice contradiction of yourself there.

You're on a BigFooty website. AFL is the best spectator sport in the world and an indigenous football code.
And I live in Melbourne. Regarded as one of the most liveable cities in the world. Pretty happy that I do too, despite extensive travels offshore.

 

[Nuwanda]

That’s the best you’ve got?!?! It’s hard to Argue for this countries history, I know lol but yeah do you mean from 1901 and onwards cos that’s all you can talk about. If that lol.


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Italy was ‘made’ in 1871.

I’m second generation (folks born in Italy), and the whole argument that you are bereft if culture based upon how long ago white men settled on land is ridiculous.

 

[JB1975]

“Australians” are a very new people from all around the world, hence no real culture and a laughable disgusting history(not saying there are not other disgusting histories), therefore I can understand not many people saying they are Aussie first. These people would be educated too.

I'm not sure if your posts are meant to be taken seriously, your thoughts seem somewhat disconnected and unnecessarily abrasive, but I'll reply to a point for the sake of it.

Australia is indeed an immigrant nation, but this doesn't mean that it has no culture at all. My own ancestors were Scots and Irish, convict and working class free settlers, and for a few generations they thought of themselves as exiled Scots and Irish. After a while, though, they made a life for themselves. Their descendants began to think of themselves as Australian, elements of the old country mixing with the new to form a new and distinct culture.

I've always felt that this country has difficulty in acknowledging that much of it has been built upon the dispossession of Aboriginal land, and it needs to get better, but no good is done and no truth is told to say that later immigrants haven't forged a meaningful way of life.

 

[Swanny = Collingwood Legend]

Italy was ‘made’ in 1871.

I’m second generation (folks born in Italy), and the whole argument that you are bereft if culture based upon how long ago white men settled on land is ridiculous.

That’s why in Italy many still call themselves Roman, Sicilian, Napoletano, Calabrese and so on. Very similar reason. They identify with that first and prefer it.

Your second statement I can’t understand. Not 100% sure what you mean but how many ‘white man’ Aussies would mention aboriginal cultures when referring to themselves? And vice versa? Don’t indigenous people prefer referring to their tribe name in the past and even today? They are also ‘Australians’......

Why not mention Aboriginals with Greeks, Italians, Maoris and who ever else was mentioned that talks about their heritage first over the country they live or born in?






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[Albert Parker]

I might be writing it a bit simple and using tough words for effect possibly but not intentionally but also not meaning any harm!Don’t see how I could? How soft are we becoming!!

We must be soft if what I’ve said is abrasive.

And you explained it in another way with another point very nicely. I like it

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Abrasive - showing little concern for the feelings of others; harsh.

"Because Australia has an uncultured, violent, boring, ugly and very new history with not too much to be proud of at all really. There is no such thing as Australian blood also."

You've wandered into an Australian website full of followers of an indigenous sporting code and made these remarks. I think abrasive is a polite and correct term to describe what you've offered the discussion thus far.

Yes, this country, like others, does have a violent past as it pertains to white settlement. But the country does now offer a more multicultural society than most, yet has
- a distinctive indigenous culture (including some incredible art) which is increasingly being given due recognition and respect,
- things like a larrikin sense of humour (think Dane Swan) and nuance in its language
- declining religious influence and anti-hierarchical society
- a fantastic indigenous football code (I can't think of a superior spectator sport in the world with it's combination of skill, fitness, physicality, motion and 360 degree movement perspective)
- and an outdoor lifestyle, influenced by the water given the climate and proximity and distribution of the population. Our lifestyle is the envy of many countries, which is part of the reason why so many immigrants continue to come here. I note also strong agricultural ties too.

This also neglects many elements of scientific and commercial advancement which has emerged from this country as well.

I think there is plenty to be proud of already (and I am) yet still some work to be done too.[/QUOTE]

 

[BringouttheGimp]

I might be writing it a bit simple and using tough words for effect possibly but not intentionally but also not meaning any harm!Don’t see how I could? How soft are we becoming!!

We must be soft if what I’ve said is abrasive.

And you explained it in another way with another point very nicely. I like it






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Your creative writing skills.. leave a lot to be desired.

 

[domus]

I am Aussie but have the balls to say we have one, if not THE weakest culture and history of of ALL.

Sounds like you are trashing 60000 years of indigenous history. What do you mean when you say "the weakest" culture?

 

[BringouttheGimp]

Thanks mate!!


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No need for it.

Your lack of education is really showing.

 

[domus]

Australia was named Australia in 1901! Did you read that? 1901. Is that not new lmfaooo? Proves names don’t mean shit and also proves your ancestors were not ‘Australian’. Call yourself whatever you want, what is true though, is another thing. I like truth- truth is good. The truth can hurt but it shouldn’t as the truth leads you to knowledge and truth is definitely good.

“Australians” are a very new people from all around the world, hence no real culture and a laughable disgusting history(not saying there are not other disgusting histories), therefore I can understand not many people saying they are Aussie first. These people would be educated too.

Was replying to a post to shed some light on a question. A name is only a name, What’s in a name? Nothing. Let’s grow up and not be hurt by a little truth. Why get defensive?

I think it has to do with the Nationalistic brainwashing of Aussies for the last 100 or so years.

Sound like America much? Americans on average are a little politically dumber but we are not far off.

Aussie Aussie Aussie- oi oi oi. We are brainwashed similar to Americans!Wooooooooooo!! Yeeeeeeeeeah. That is truth.

And yes I say ‘we’ as of course I am Australian cos I live here duhhhhhh just like I would call myself Chinese if I was born in China or Egyptian if I was born in Egypt? or would I be African if I was born in Egypt?? Ahh nationalism- f*cking with people long, long before the name Australia was created.


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I was going to respond to about six different comments you made and then felt exhausted thinking about it. It's not worth the energy.

 

[JB1975]

Thread needs more of the Gimp's star sign gazing. As a Libran, I find myself in furious --yet thoughtfully balanced-- agreement with everything he has to say on the subject.

 

[Anzacday]

Great bump