Mega Thread The Next AFC Coach?

[MRB37]

Tattle with dew/bass to become a takeover coach!

I'll accept that....

What would be best for the players though?

Who's Tattle?

 

[Crouch#44]

Who's Tattle?

My bad! Ratten

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

Im sorry what did he say then if I misheard? Not that I think hinkley would leave for money thats why it surprised me when Rowie said he would

Well, I don't know what you herd, as i didn't say anything aboiut Kern.

 

[Iron]

Mick Malthouse: king of metaphors.

 

[little graham]

certified idiot

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Don't want Woosha. He retired. We should get someone hungry, not some brought back reluctantly by a bagful of money.

Malthouse saying that woosha doesn't want to coach.

 

[adelkelly]

Well, I don't know what you herd, as i didn't say anything aboiut Kern.

You just said you must be listening to a different radio station as you didn't hear those comments... anyway that's what I heard him say thought it was weird he would say Ken would leave for money.

 

[VSTone]

what was that about Brendan Bolton and the crows on 10 just then?

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

You just said you must be listening to a different radio station as you didn't hear those comments... anyway that's what I heard him say thought it was weird he would say Ken would leave for money.

People leave jobs everyday for more money.

Oh yeahg, not in footy. That's not allowed.

 

[WeeBlake]

Malthouse saying that woosha doesn't want to coach.

in which case the response should be, ok Woosha, fine.

 

[I Lost My Keays]

imagine the meltdown on the Port board if we got kern.........

 

[GROTTO]

It would be hilarious if we poached #yesweken I wonder how quick BF would go into a meltdown.

 

[baldandbroke]

Sure you can, try harder
Not sure I said there was a pattern. I said 2 things
That I could not think of a senior director / young coach setup that's worked. That's not about a magic formula, that's observation
I also said its about risk, and managing risk
What we did may have been right, but it wasn't fair. Unless it was action related, I.e. He did something; it looks like an overall assessment of capability. Fine, I've never been a real fan of him as coach. But if he was sucking, did we tell him? If he lost the players that didn't happen overnight, it's a gradual thing. So we must have known a long time out. We extended him. It certainly looks a bolt from the blue
I think it was more about sending a message that we're the new, ruthless AFC than anything. I wouldn't have extended him, I'd have let him go. But nonetheless what we did is not the same as what we did. Seems we sacrificed him for PR
Which I'm ok with, but you need to have someone better in the wings. We must have known he wasn't up to it for a long time
You and I both know this is most probably a dumb kneejerk reaction without planning. Even if it was the right call
I could not think the new coach and the old coach's situation could be more closely linked. It's about planning and not going off half cocked.
Longmire, like Chris Scott and Alan Joyce at the Hawks in the 1980's took over already built clubs, I'm not ready to call them successful coaches in their own right just yet.
Clarko is the exception. And it only strengthens my point, look how few examples there are. Just because sloane was pick 44, it doesn't make the intrinsic worth of pick 44 any higher.
Rookie coaches are a lottery with poor odds.
I can't see how tt is is applicable at all. Not having a replacement lined up is my criticism, not having planned it when it's been apparent a long while is my criticism. How on earth is that not suggesting an alternative?
My alternative is to do the opposite of those things!
No hindsight needed. Don't extend, let him know he's on notice and have a contingency in place.

So, to summarise.

If the club fired Sanderson because he wasn't doing his job, or he had shown that his best wasn't good enough - you'd be ok with that, as long as we have someone lined up as his replacement before we fire him. Right?

If the club kept Sanderson even though he wasn't doing his job, or he had shown that his best wasn't good enough - you'd be ok with that, because we didn't have someone lined up as his replacement if we fired him. Right?

Rookie coaches are a waste of time - only coaches who have won premierships need apply.​

End summary.

I think your option to not extend is a hindsight call - and having a contingency replacement is pie-in-the-sky. Which coaching appointments do you see as being of the type you describe ... where the coach plays out his contract and the successor is waiting in the wings? Maybe Eade being replaced by Wallace at Sydney - oh no that didn't work out they hired that other guy. What about Neil Craig, how'd that work out again? Maybe the succession plans like Collingwood's ... we could have been getting Bickley ready to take over?

Like I said previously there is no pattern, no formula, no indication of who will be the best coach for AFC. Maybe we get Clarkson and he bombs (Blight at St Kilda) Maybe we get a rookie and he bombs (Neeld at Melbourne). Maybe we get Sumich and he coaches us for 20 years and multiple premierships (Sheedy).

I don't think it was a dumb knee-jerk reaction at all. I think it was a call that had to be made, should have been made earlier, but as time travel isn't on the menu ... the trigger was pulled.

How about we agree that Sanderson needed to go, and we will make our guess on who is the best for the job - even though we have no clue if it will be the best choice in hindsight. That is all we can hope for.

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

My view whoever out target is it's already done

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

My view whoever our target is it's already done

 

[baldandbroke]

It would be hilarious if we poached #yesweken I wonder how quick BF would go into a meltdown.

Please don't post this stuff about Hinkley - it's embarrassing.

 

[Simmo28]

It would be hilarious if we poached #yesweken I wonder how quick BF would go into a meltdown.

He has a team primed for making the finals over the next three seasons at least. No way he is going to coach a team that is likely to struggle to make the finals or just scrape in over the next couple of years. While money is good it only gets you so far. Hinkley would be more driven by success and enjoying the success of others around him. He isn't going to give that up for some extra dollars. Just my opinion.

 

[JP Sauce]

I don't want slops Hinkley anyway.

 

[GROTTO]

Please don't post this stuff about Hinkley - it's embarrassing.

Im sorry, it was light hearted joke.

 

[GROTTO]

I don't want slops Hinkley anyway.

Nicely put.

 

[The Karma Bus]

Rowe says Dew and Sumich would like a phone call for the job but they haven't received one..
He says Bassett has talked to the Crows..

Bolton is starting to get around as a possibility but who knows..

 

[GROTTO]

Rowe says Dew and Sumich would like a phone call for the job but they haven't received one..
He says Bassett has talked to the Crows..

Bolton is starting to get around as a possibility but who knows..

That is interesting, given that Rowie has said that he knows who the coach is and that Dew hasnt received a phone call.

Could it be Bassett? Why wait?? Why not announce it now, unless they plan to interview or speak to Dew after the grand final.

 

[Johnny Rutten]

Rowe says Dew and Sumich would like a phone call for the job but they haven't received one..
He says Bassett has talked to the Crows..

Bolton is starting to get around as a possibility but who knows..

Mark Butler on 3AW telling Healy/Russell that Bolton has impressed the Crows and is very much in the running. Great communicator apparently. Don't know how this will go down with Crows' supporters. He doesn't exactly have a high profile.

Brendon Bolton
Hawthorn

DOB:18/04/1979

Playing record:
North Launceston 1998: P'Ship 1998, D Baldock Medal 1998
Clarence 2002: P'Ship 2002
North Hobart 2003: P'Ship 2003, William Leitch Medal 2003

Coaching record:
North Hobart 2003-2005: P'Ship 2003
Tassie Devils Coach 2006
Clarence Senior Coach 2008
Box Hill Senior Coach 2009-2011
Hawthorn Asst. Coach 2012-

Brendan joined the Hawks as coach of the Box Hill VFL team in 2009. In 2012 Brendon will transfer his experience at Box Hill into a senior assistant coach with Hawthorn. Known for his ability to create a learning environment, Brendon is a key appointment for the Hawks. Brendon has a Bachelor of Human Movement and is a Level 3 accredited Coach.

 

[The Karma Bus]

That is interesting, given that Rowie has said that he knows who the coach is and that Dew hasnt received a phone call.

Could it be Bassett? Why wait?? Why not announce it now, unless they plan to interview or speak to Dew after the grand final.

I don't remember Rowe saying he knows who the coach is, he's trying to guess who it is himself I think..
He believes they have one either locked away or will be locked away..

 

[pjcrows]

They'll announce it after the Grand Final regardless IMO.