The Official Eastern Conference Finals Thread

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Ecellewnt article. Thanks for posting

 

[Hodges]

interesting comments, seems media are going to town on LeMe

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...vLYF?slug=aw-lebron060109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Funny, but James stayed on the court to make sure the Detroit Pistons and Atlanta Hawks paid respect to him. As it turns out, there’s one thing allowed to happen at the end of a playoff series: Everyone bows down and kisses the King’s ring. Only, LeBron doesn’t have a ring. He’s never won a game in the NBA Finals.

So, yes, maybe they just have to kiss his ass.

Within the Cavs, someone needed to tell James that he embarrassed himself and the franchise, but that won’t happen. They’re too scared of him. Most league executives with knowledge of Cleveland’s operation believe it’s far more of an ownership issue, than basketball operations.

If general manager Danny Ferry and coach Mike Brown privately disdain the ridiculous posing for pictures that James started with his teammates on a 13-game winning streak, the owner is believed to see the foolishness as a marketing dream.

Someone should’ve told James that the pregame Polaroid act was belittling and beneath a championship contender, but it never happened.

Great article. Pretty much sums up my thoughts on LBJ.

 

[sheller891]

SADLY, i agree with the article to an extent

prefer this one : http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/9634478/Hey-LeBron,-it's-time-to-grow-up

when he reached finals against the spurs, he was extremely gracious in defeat and i loved that

im hoping he has sense put back into him and he at least can come out and say he was wrong

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Its not just walking off the floor, which I dont mind as much as the 4 months of in-game dancing/fake polaroids/yucking it up on the bench/posing/referring to himself in the 3rd person etc

He needs to get that ego in check

 

[robd]

yeah thanks for posting that. might be a little harsh, but I do agree with it.

and something tells me you will never see Lebron do something like that again.

 

[Hodges]

yeah thanks for posting that. might be a little harsh, but I do agree with it.

and something tells me you will never see Lebron do something like that again.

Really? What gives you that impression? For mine he has shown he doesnt care what people think about his actions - he thinks its justified him not shaking hands, he's a "winner" remember...

 

[robd]

Really? What gives you that impression? For mine he has shown he doesnt care what people think about his actions - he thinks its justified him not shaking hands, he's a "winner" remember...

I think once he realizes the backlash he's received over it and what a dick he looks like, he'll make sure to never do it again. This guy is always so supremely aware of his image, and I don't think he'd ever do anything to detract from that and his Nike shoe sales. Which is why I was surprised he did this in the first place...

Once I can kind of forgive him, he's still pretty young after all. But if he does it again then he's a ****ing *******

 

[peternorth]

Ecellewnt article. Thanks for posting

Thanks. no worries.

Great article. Pretty much sums up my thoughts on LBJ.

Thanks. no worries.

yeah thanks for posting that. might be a little harsh, but I do agree with it.

Thanks. no worries.

 

[apollo_creed]

Excellent article Pete. Thanks for posting that. Pretty much sums up my thoughts on LBJ. Might be a little harsh but as I say, I do agree with it. Wanna ****?

 

[Vegas.]

Another really good piece if you, like me, spend your entire life reading NBA articles.

How the Cavs went from unbeatable to beaten

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

I liked that one too.

I could read these anti-LeBron ones all day

 

[Vegas.]

Someone somewhere said this:

I don't hate LeBron James, I hate 'LeBron', the overhyped character created partly by himself, but mostly by the media.

Sums up my feelings pretty well.

Oh and for the record;

 

[robd]

i think that is a real photo of Andeson Varejao with his teammates photoshopped in?

 

[PHX]

Lol, Mo looks genuinely scared. Although so would I be when it looks like LeBron is about to turn into the Hulk.

 

[Vegas.]

They are all wearing LeBron shoes, does anyone else find that a little queer (not as in gay)?

 

[Hodges]

Lol, Mo looks genuinely scared. Although so would I be when it looks like LeBron is about to turn into the Hulk.

Man LeBron looks like he is about to kill someone. Crazy photo.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

They are all wearing LeBron shoes, does anyone else find that a little queer (not as in gay)?

very weird.

Do you think it's to kiss his ass?

 

[Hodges]

Another really good piece if you, like me, spend your entire life reading NBA articles.

How the Cavs went from unbeatable to beaten

Thats another fun to read article. Where did all these closet LBJ haters come from anyway? Have they been storing up the material waiting till he finally slipped up?

One part I did like was this:

Imagine being one of LeBron's teammates, standing around while he does his thing, waiting for the golden pass to come to you — or not — and then absolutely having to hit the open 3-pointer. Imagine the enormous pressure to make that shot. Imagine being either yanked to the bench or being ignored if you miss two or three such shots in a row.

Thats the exact argument I made as to why LBJ lost them game 1. Bron Brons one-on-one crap lost them momentum time and time again - you need to run an offense, not just a LBJ iso. People say his teammates need to move for him - move to where? They arent running any plays, he just tries to beat people off the dribble.

So happy he got eliminated.

 

[peternorth]

Lol, Mo looks genuinely scared. Although so would I be when it looks like LeBron is about to turn into the Hulk.

Excellent article Pete. Thanks for posting that. Pretty much sums up my thoughts on LBJ. Might be a little harsh but as I say, I do agree with it. Wanna ****?

thanks AC, yes i am available all day and night.

They are all wearing LeBron shoes, does anyone else find that a little queer (not as in gay)?

a bit of ass kissing perhaps, or just smart stuff from the hangers on.

 

[mdc]

Imagine being one of LeBron's teammates, standing around while he does his thing, waiting for the golden pass to come to you — or not — and then absolutely having to hit the open 3-pointer. Imagine the enormous pressure to make that shot. Imagine being either yanked to the bench or being ignored if you miss two or three such shots in a row.

This argument would be better if;
a) They were being yanked after a miss.
b) Lebron stopped passing after a miss.

Since both of those are entirely false, it's bs.

Seriously, I get the hate about LBJ the bloke, but anyone criticizing his actual game is having a larf. If the offense is stagnant, that goes back to the coach.

Fwiw, I thought the biggest mistake they made is not using whoever Howard was defending in high pick-and-rolls.

 

[Hodges]

This argument would be better if;
a) They were being yanked after a miss.
b) Lebron stopped passing after a miss.

Since both of those are entirely false, it's bs.

Seriously, I get the hate about LBJ the bloke, but anyone criticizing his actual game is having a larf. If the offense is stagnant, that goes back to the coach.

Fwiw, I thought the biggest mistake they made is not using whoever Howard was defending in high pick-and-rolls.

Mike Brown has said that he turns the offense over to LeBron at time. He is the offense. So when LBJ is facing up 25 feet out, just dribbling the ball for 18 seconds before chucking up an ill-advised shot - thats all him. And what coach is going to come in and tell him what to do? He runs the show in Cleveland and everyone knows that.

Ill be the first to admit that LBJ played some amazing ball this season. But when it counted, he reverted back to his old habits. Stopped trusting his teammates, stopped playing team ball. Maybe im over-reacting a little bit, but nearly every game I watched him play against the Magic featured the same stretch - the part where LeBron went 1-on-1. It usually coincided with the Cavs losing momentum, apart from the obvious game 4 run.

Hopefully he changes when/if he gets a legitimate second superstar next to him, but for now I think his game has major flaws.

 

[mdc]

See, I disagree completely. I think, if anything, they ran too many play for Delonte and Mo.

They definitely need to get more plays for Lebron to catch on the go, but meh. You could just as easily describe Orlando's offense as a clear-out for Hedo, and that worked fine.

 

[Hodges]

See, I disagree completely. I think, if anything, they ran too many play for Delonte and Mo.

They definitely need to get more plays for Lebron to catch on the go, but meh. You could just as easily describe Orlando's offense as a clear-out for Hedo, and that worked fine.

Thats true, but I would have a lot more confidence in Turk taking shots down the stretch than Bron. His jumper isnt consistent at this stage, still needs more work. He is an amazing shooter when he is on, but just way to streaky. If he can develop a consistent midrange then I think he would be a near complete player.

Oh, and I definitely agree with you regarding the play-calling. Half the reason they brought Mo in was so that he could run the point and feed LeBron in motion. Obviously that didnt work out, but LBJ might need the ball out of his hands to be more effective - for parts of the game anyway.

 

[popathon]

There is no way you can blame Bron for our offence, he creates shots where there are no shots and as MDC said if they don't drop, he tries again. The Cavs offence consists of 3 shooters spreading the floor, not moving and watching LeBron take 10 seconds off the clock.

 

[sheller891]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/9638300/Don't-gang-up-on-quiet-James

theres a point there aswell.