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[Dylan8]

Many here take great pride in supporting a club that involves itself in many community programs, runs an Aboriginal academy and provides great support through the Foodbank initiative.

The club prints part of this mission statement inside the guernsey, and that's bad why? This has nothing to do with Kochie making the club more "vanilla." It's about being proud about doing things the way the club has always done them. Premierships are the goal on field and being a productive part of the community is important off the field.

I honestly can't believe the way some people are reacting to this.

It's a stern reminder that at the end of the day we are a football club and one that has and should continue to existed to win.

It's great and necessary that the club is active in the community but it's not necessary to dilute a strong statement of intent because we also do community work as well.

 

[Magus]

The first is a core aspiration. The second is a `well, we stuffed the first again lol' aspiration.

This stuff isn't a core aspiration?

http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/community/

 

[Portia]

The football interests of the club can exist without the community work. The opposite is not true.

Football department focus has to be primary.

 

[Lagooner]

It's a stern reminder that at the end of the day we are a football club and one that has and should continue to existed to win.

It's great and necessary that the club is active in the community but it's not necessary to dilute a strong statement of intent because we also do community work as well.

Also I'd rather not be "that guy" who constantly tells everyone how much they volunteer and give to charity.

Just do it quietly because it's the right thing to do, not for the plaudits.

 

[Magus]

The football interests of the club can exist without the community work. The opposite is not true.

Football department focus has to be primary.

We have the people to cover both.
This is really no different to people complaining that we shouldn't be playing games in China because we haven't been doing well on field.

What good does it do to jump up and down and say that the community programs aren't our main focus? There is no point. This is jumping at shadows stuff.

 

[Magus]

Also I'd rather not be "that guy" who constantly tells everyone how much they volunteer and give to charity.

Just do it quietly because it's the right thing to do, not for the plaudits.

Maybe we have to pump our own tyres sometimes. We don't have any admirers for our hard work in the media and we don't have The Pride of South Australia slogan to fall back on.

 

[Portia]

What good does it do to jump up and down and say that the community programs aren't our main focus?

What harm did it do to just do the community work and keep our bold and pure statement of existing to win premierships as it was?

This isn't supporters demanding change, this is club staff having made an unwanted change that appears to be at odds what most fans would want from the PAFC. Premierships.

 

[Magus]

What harm did it do to just do the community work and keep our bold and pure statement of existing to win premierships as it was?

This isn't supporters demanding change, this is club staff having made an unwanted change that appears to be at odds what most fans would want from the PAFC. Premierships.

Nope, still doesn't bother me one little bit.

 

[Doctor Feel]

This is such a crows thing to do. Seriously.

 

[Lagooner]

Maybe we have to pump our own tyres sometimes. We don't have any admirers for our hard work in the media and we don't have The Pride of South Australia slogan to fall back on.

I'll take quiet achievement over superficial self promotion any day of the week.

 

[Lagooner]

What harm did it do to just do the community work and keep our bold and pure statement of existing to win premierships as it was?

This isn't supporters demanding change, this is club staff having made an unwanted change that appears to be at odds what most fans would want from the PAFC. Premierships.

It's like Nike changing their motto to "Just do it and be a good person in the process."

Kinda takes the edge off it.

 

[Powerade 08]

This just in: Port AFL tries to undermine 100+ years of success by doing something stupid. More at 6.

 

[Magus]

It's like Nike changing their motto to "Just do it and be a good person in the process."

Kinda takes the edge off it.

Because mission statements and marketing slogans are the same thing?

 

[Janus]

LOL. We've had this change to the slogan since 2014 and people are only starting to complain about it now?

It's not really about our community work. It's about making sure that the club doesn't forget who it represents - that the community - the volunteers, the fans, the sponsors, the families - are more important than the players that are representing them. That the club doesn't exist in a vacuum where they can treat those people with contempt in their quest to win a flag.

Back in the days when we were a semi-professional club, everyone was grounded because everyone had other jobs they had to do in the real world. So we could just say "We exist to win premierships" because that was all the club was about, and everyone appreciated the sacrifice the players and staff made for the jumper they wore.

Fast forward to now, and it was that "premiership above everything else" attitude that led to the players treating volunteers with contempt, Chaplin being a massive dickhead about being accosted by fans in West Lakes mall, and Hinkley going troppo about a player leaving an empty toilet roll because "someone else can do it".

It's not an out for the club. It's an in for the players to make sure they are always representing the club in a manner that would make us proud. The primary goal is always winning a flag - but if the price that has to be paid is neglecting the people we represent, it's just a piece of material because the only people who will appreciate it are those that have that same cavalier attitude to life.

It's got to be about more than just winning.

 

[Doctor Feel]

Because mission statements and marketing slogans are the same thing?

We exist to win premierships is a mission statement. It always has been. Not sure what your argument is there.

 

[Magus]

We exist to win premierships is a mission statement. It always has been. Not sure what your argument is there.

And I don't know what point you're making? I think you missed the sarcasm in my post. Our mission statement is not comparable to the marketing slogan of a clothing company.

 

[Lagooner]

LOL. We've had this change to the slogan since 2014 and people are only starting to complain about it now?

It's not really about our community work. It's about making sure that the club doesn't forget who it represents - that the community - the volunteers, the fans, the sponsors, the families - are more important than the players that are representing them. That the club doesn't exist in a vacuum where they can treat those people with contempt in their quest to win a flag.

Back in the days when we were a semi-professional club, everyone was grounded because everyone had other jobs they had to do in the real world. So we could just say "We exist to win premierships" because that was all the club was about, and everyone appreciated the sacrifice the players and staff made for the jumper they wore.

Fast forward to now, and it was that "premiership above everything else" attitude that led to the players treating volunteers with contempt, Chaplin being a massive dickhead about being accosted by fans in West Lakes mall, and Hinkley going troppo about a player leaving an empty toilet roll because "someone else can do it".

It's not an out for the club. It's an in for the players to make sure they are always representing the club in a manner that would make us proud. The primary goal is always winning a flag - but if the price that has to be paid is neglecting the people we represent, it's just a piece of material because the only people who will appreciate it are those that have that same cavalier attitude to life.

It's got to be about more than just winning.

Come on Janus. Anyone who needs to be told "don't be a dickhead" will most likely continue to be a dickhead regardless.

 

[jdeezy]

LOL. We've had this change to the slogan since 2014 and people are only starting to complain about it now?

It's not really about our community work. It's about making sure that the club doesn't forget who it represents - that the community - the volunteers, the fans, the sponsors, the families - are more important than the players that are representing them. That the club doesn't exist in a vacuum where they can treat those people with contempt in their quest to win a flag.

Back in the days when we were a semi-professional club, everyone was grounded because everyone had other jobs they had to do in the real world. So we could just say "We exist to win premierships" because that was all the club was about, and everyone appreciated the sacrifice the players and staff made for the jumper they wore.

Fast forward to now, and it was that "premiership above everything else" attitude that led to the players treating volunteers with contempt, Chaplin being a massive dickhead about being accosted by fans in West Lakes mall, and Hinkley going troppo about a player leaving an empty toilet roll because "someone else can do it".

It's not an out for the club. It's an in for the players to make sure they are always representing the club in a manner that would make us proud. The primary goal is always winning a flag - but if the price that has to be paid is neglecting the people we represent, it's just a piece of material because the only people who will appreciate it are those that have that same cavalier attitude to life.

It's got to be about more than just winning.

This does make it more palatable but I still think the wording makes it sound soft. It sounds like something my mum would say before telling me "Its not about whether you win or lose its all about having fun". I think its the use of the word 'proud'.

 

[Doctor Feel]

You just know after we lose a close one this line will be rolled out by Ken.

 

[Contested Marx]

Any club worth its salt will clean out its no hopers, from the doorman to the head trainer to the -- Oh, sorry. I didn't realise all the high school visits and that trip to the APY lands.

 

[Janus]

This does make it more palatable but I still think the wording makes it sound soft. It sounds like something my mum would say before telling me "Its not about whether you win or lose its all about having fun". I think its the use of the word 'proud'.

In China, it would be "We exist to win premierships and represent our community with honour."

 

[Lagooner]

Because mission statements and marketing slogans are the same thing?

They're getting pretty damn close to each other when you slap the former on merchandise.

 

[Portology]

By winning premierships you will make your community proud.

Original slogan "We Exist To Win Premierships" is much stronger.

It's smells of qualifying things a bit, almost a slight over-reaction to Essendon's "whatever it takes" of 2012, which took Gold at the 2016 Ironies awards.


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[melanChronic]

It is super lame for sure and a continued theme of the dilution of strong PAFC elements. We exist to win premierships, and...

The guernsey isn't as bold as it was even with Reebok's shitty gray/brown in the first iteration of the BiB. I love that we have an extensive footy jumper history because I'm such a nerd in that space but there's something to be said about keeping it as simple as possible to maintain and develop an identity.

Previously we might have had one (non-AFL mandated) once-off jumper a season beside the BiB and the inverse white clash. 2013 we had the prison bar send off. 2014 we had the 2004 throwback and the prison bars in the EF - sure, two once-offs, but everything was right about wearing that Magpies jumper.

I'm pretty sure with all the minor variations and pre-seasons included, Charlie Dixon played in six different guernseys in his first seven games. Pre-season, 1997, Showdown, China, Home, Home, Clash. Pretty absurd.

I was thinking about this the other day. Our last 6 finals appearances have featured 5 different playing kits as well. It would be good to lock down on something.

 

[Duck Farmer]

It's like Nike changing their motto to "Just do it and be a good person in the process."

Kinda takes the edge off it.

Google's "Don't be evil and flag or bust" seems to be working for them.