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jamesisabomber

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hey all i was wondering if anyone new wat times players such as winderlinch, stanton, dyson, lovett recorded over there 20m sprints and if anyone had any info on who runs the quickest over 100 any help would be greatly appreciated :thumbsu:
 
Joel Reynolds is our quickest over 100m.

Not sure about 20m, but I have a feeling it is Winderlich. I heard Monfries ran a 2.8ish at the start of preseason, which is fantastic for a bloke who is regarded as slow by the greater football community.
 
Longy413 said:
Joel Reynolds is our quickest over 100m.

Not sure about 20m, but I have a feeling it is Winderlich. I heard Monfries ran a 2.8ish at the start of preseason, which is fantastic for a bloke who is regarded as slow by the greater football community.

hmm fair enuff reynolds surprises me a bit considering winderlinch won a gift when he was younger may have just had a good starting handycap though. yeh i dont know why gus is percieved as being slow really either to be honest
 
didnt Dyson win the 100m sprint this year just ahead of Lovett.

maybe if Reynoolds had that pace he could sometimes use it. it is non existent in football matches
 

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Tricky_Ricky2 said:
didnt Dyson win the 100m sprint this year just ahead of Lovett.

maybe if Reynoolds had that pace he could sometimes use it. it is non existent in football matches


lol ill agree with that ive never seen him do anything unfortunatly. i didnt think he was ever going to be that great a player at the beginning either and unless he has an amazing year this year he will be dumped as he has been well and truely superseeded by the likes of stanton, dyson, lovett, winderlinch, slattery and monfries
 
Tricky_Ricky2 said:
didnt Dyson win the 100m sprint this year just ahead of Lovett.

Joel was injured. Joel has the best PB over 100m of anyone at the club.

Tricky_Ricky2 said:
maybe if Reynoolds had that pace he could sometimes use it. it is non existent in football matches

He has. But unfortunately you have to look back to 2003 (v Collingwood is a great example) to witness it. He did show a lot of dash at times for Bendigo in 2005.
 
He is very quick, sadly when he gets the ball he doesn't use that pace in the same fashion that say a Winderlich or Lovett do.. he tends to lope.
 
whirl said:
He is very quick, sadly when he gets the ball he doesn't use that pace in the same fashion that say a Winderlich or Lovett do.. he tends to lope.

Correct. But he also takes big steps, which makes look as if he is running slower than he actually is.
 
Longy413 said:
Correct. But he also takes big steps, which makes look as if he is running slower than he actually is.
maybe he so, but he really needs to use his acceleration in those first few metres after receiving the ball like the above players. It would make a massive difference imho.
 
whirl said:
maybe he so, but he really needs to use his acceleration in those first few metres after receiving the ball like the above players. It would make a massive difference imho.

His lateral movement is really poor which makes him look slower than he really is. The ability to change direction quickly is a better asset in aussie rules than the ability to run fast in a straight line...which is why IMO the 20m test is irrelevent. The cone drill measuring a players agility is the best test to judge a players quickness. Endurance also plays a part, Crawford at his best ran just as fast late in the last quarter as he did in the first. Joel may spend his tickets a lot quicker than most making him look very laconic at times.
 

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marcuz said:
His lateral movement is really poor which makes him look slower than he really is. The ability to change direction quickly is a better asset in aussie rules than the ability to run fast in a straight line...which is why IMO the 20m test is irrelevent. The cone drill measuring a players agility is the best test to judge a players quickness. Endurance also plays a part, Crawford at his best ran just as fast late in the last quarter as he did in the first. Joel may spend his tickets a lot quicker than most making him look very laconic at times.

the reason the 20m test is conducted is to see if you can lose your opponent on a lead hence straight running or to see if you can get first to a 50/50 ball and to measure how quick you can accelerate away from a player chasing you so it is actually a very relavent test
 
jamesisabomber said:
the reason the 20m test is conducted is to see if you can lose your opponent on a lead hence straight running or to see if you can get first to a 50/50 ball and to measure how quick you can accelerate away from a player chasing you so it is actually a very relavent test

It's such a short measurement that any differences in times is negligible. Not to mention that its done under such controlled conditions(started with a whistle and run indoors).

Its how you accelerate after that initial 20m that can be the difference on a lead. Guys like Silvagni, Fletcher, scarlett etc make up ground late.
 
I think it is more important for midfielders. Especially those midfielders that carry the ball. Your pace over the first few steps can be the difference between winning a clearance or not, it can mean the difference between kicking under pressure or not.
 
jamesisabomber said:
thankz longy that was pretty much the point i was trying to make hence why the 20 is a valued assesment

At TAC cup level 5m, 20m, agility run, 3km and beep test are tested. The 5m is a bit of a raffle and is often won by "power Athletes" whereas the 20m is usually won by midfielders. The agility test is a real test of a players lateral movements, balance and explosive speed. The 3km is becoming almost an endurance "sprint" while the beep test is rated as a test of a players endurance as well as his will. The best 3km runner at a club will not necessarily win the beep test. A player such as Damien Peverill is suppose to be a great performer in the beep tests because he is such a hard trainer and fierce competitor. My understanding is that a prospective midfielder needs to perform strongly in agility test, 20m sprint and then 3km timetrial. It is well worth watching the player testing if you get an opportunity as very little is left to chance. However I reckon you still need to be able to put your head over the ball, get it and dispose of it well before anything else.
 
i was wondering is 2.7 over twenty, 13 in a beep test 11.20 in 3ker and a vertical leap of 85 very good for a 16 year old and what do u boys reckon would be the ideal weight for a midifielder of around 180 cm just curious cause i wanna no how far off i am
 

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jamesisabomber said:
i was wondering is 2.7 over twenty, 13 in a beep test 11.20 in 3ker and a vertical leap of 85 very good for a 16 year old and what do u boys reckon would be the ideal weight for a midifielder of around 180 cm just curious cause i wanna no how far off i am

You are in the ball park, most elite mf are in the 14plus for the beep and under 11 for 3km. Nathan Jones and Matt White who were both recently drafted have run 3km under 10.20.
 

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