Mega Thread The Random Thoughts Thread Part 1

[bomberclifford]

Did you read the articles?

 

[Powerstufff]

First couple of minutes might help.

Fox News again! And Sean Hannity who is considered extreme even there. Hate merchants are
simply that, how can you begin to accept such stuff?

 

[Dylan8]

First couple of minutes might help.

some bloke on fox news saying it is so

i mean surely you'd be skeptical of this source

 

[Jumbo]

Fox News again! And Sean Hannity who is considered extreme even there. Hate merchants are
simply that, how can you begin to accept such stuff?

In your eyes (please open them) who is a credible source rather than sitting there saying nup, nup, nup.

 

[Jumbo]

some bloke on fox news saying it is so

i mean surely you'd be skeptical of this source

There are heaps of sources, don't people read anymore?

 

[Dylan8]

There are heaps of sources, don't people read anymore?

I'm commenting on the solitary source you posted m8

Not taking a stance on either side of whatever we're talking about

 

[Powerstufff]

Did you read the articles?

Because? They're not going to mention Islamic exclusion zones. They're going to talk about about problem areas where Guy Rundle in Crikey today ('Rundle: 'Hebdoiste' world leaders laud satire but quash true dissent') says a huge segment of the population is first/second generation immigrants. Largely from Islamic countries. Ironically largely not religious.
FWIW Rundle states "... Eight per cent of the population of France are Muslims. Many of them, as first or second-generation, are from countries that had secular and Marxist liberation movements, and are not particularly religious or observant ...."

 

[Schulzenfest]

First couple of minutes might help.

Quoting a Sean Hannity interview as proof of anything regarding Islam is like quoting a kaltmeibel post as proof of anything regarding Port Adelaide.

 

[Jumbo]

Quoting a Sean Hannity interview as proof of anything regarding Islam is like quoting a kaltmeibel post as proof of anything regarding Port Adelaide.

It was just as much an experiment into finding out what is and isn't admissible

 

[bomberclifford]

Because? They're not going to mention Islamic exclusion zones. They're going to talk about about problem areas where Guy Rundle in Crikey today ('Rundle: 'Hebdoiste' world leaders laud satire but quash true dissent') says a huge segment of the population is first/second generation immigrants. Largely from Islamic countries. Ironically largely not religious.
FWIW Rundle states "... Eight per cent of the population of France are Muslims. Many of them, as first or second-generation, are from countries that had secular and Marxist liberation movements, and are not particularly religious or observant ...."

Semantics. You wanted information on the existence of these areas, I provided links with references to them from what you would consider a reputable source.

I'm not engaging in a debate on that information, I just provided the links to show that it can be found if you look.

 

[Powerstufff]

Semantics. You wanted information on the existence of these areas ....

No semantics at all. There are no Islamic exclusion zones in France, let alone 750.

 

[bomberclifford]

No semantics at all. There are no Islamic exclusion zones in France, let alone 750.

You're sticking to Jumbo's clumsy wording to avoid acknowledging the existence of the areas that he described.
That is using semantics.

 

[Port81]

No one is denying there are nutters out there. What they ARE denying are that there are condemning moderates. Keep shouting your hate. See where that gets you.
http://mic.com/articles/108076/here-s-how-arab-papers-reacted-to-the-charlie-hebdo-massacre
Here's what the Arab newspapers made of it. But of course they are all trying to steal your big tv.

Im shouting hate because im against terrorists murdering innocent people?

 

[Port81]

They've been trying to enforce sharia law in parts of London as well.

 

[Port81]

Please try that in Taperoo

 

[Powerstufff]

You're sticking to Jumbo's clumsy wording to avoid acknowledging the existence of the areas that he described.
That is using semantics.

Jumbo decided to jump on the hate-train of his own volition and has hung on as it gathered speed. There was no clumsy wording, as his subsequent posts showed. And he described no areas, just provided the inflammatory descriptor for something that doesn't exist. Like it or not it was me that explained what actually exists.

 

[Steve Dore]

You're sticking to Jumbo's clumsy wording to avoid acknowledging the existence of the areas that he described.
That is using semantics.

Maybe he is anti-semantic (sic)

 

[charcolechaddy]

Probably not exactly the real vibe coming out of the middle east on this issue Chig. Of the examples you use, one is from Lebanon which is not a wholly Muslim country, another is from an English language newspaper and another from a privately run paper. I don't think these are all that representative of the main stream.

Lebanon is a majority Muslim country, it has hardcore Muslim goverments.

Do you have them supporting the situation?

 

[glitch01]

From Mars Attacks...."Why can't we work out our differences? Why can't we work things out? Little people, why can't we all just get along?"

On a more serious note - the media here in Dubai/UAE has come out strongly against these attacks.
Given the media is pretty much controlled by the Muslim government here that tends to indicate the extremists have no support here.
I also know from my work that the UAE military are heavily involved in anti-ISIS activities.

 

[Papa G]

Lebanon is a majority Muslim country, it has hardcore muslim goverments.

Do you have them supporting the situation?

Whilst the majority, it is only slight, around 54% which makes it vastly different from almost all other arab country. it is far more accepting of different faiths than most (barring a few religious civil wars mind you).

 

[charcolechaddy]

I hope Davron Park dosen't find Islam.

 

[tribey]

I hope Davron Park dosen't find Islam.

It's Davoren. Show some respect m8

 

[Steve Dore]

It's Davoren. Show some respect m8

Don't be fooled, it is Elizabeth West.

 

[I Dont Care]

No.
There are plenty of credible and largely neutral sites. There can be different views on a topic based on exactly the same information, that's unarguable. But information posted there starts with the premise it's true and gets amended or withdrawn when it's not. We are so used to this we are conditioned to think http://www.abc.net.au/news/ and http://www.news.com.au/ are extremes of bias. As a test of their credibility try searching their sites for links they've put up on Islamic exclusion zones in France.

They are only credible to people who share the same views. News.com is good if you want to catch up on twerking videos or how to know if you are good in bed

 

[raman]

Don't be fooled, it is Elizabeth West.

Wasn't thst Fred West's Mrs?