Mega Thread The Random Thoughts Thread Part 1

[manureid]

I have said it before I am sure...Manfred Mann.

 

[Honeyboy Wilson]

Let's face it, RIP, Painkiller and Seasons in the Abyss may aswell have been 80s albums. All 1990 on the dot. All of those 80s kings sort of tapered off in the 90s in regards to outstanding output after those albums.

Pantera were flying the flag for mainstream metal as far as I can make out. It's no wonder Nirvana took some much of the attention in the rock scene after thrash sort of died out and glam... well I never liked glam.

Who cares anyway, underground metal and the development of extreme metal in the 90s was awesome. Gothenburg melodeath, death metal, black metal, etc.

The band Extreme peaked from 91 - 93 using a mashup of funk and hair metal, and my personal favourite guitarist of all time (and who I think it just so technically unique and ridiculous that no one can touch him), Nuno Bettencourt, was absolutely electrifying with what he was playing on those releases. The album Pornograffiti went double platinum and produced a worldwide no. 1 hit, so it's not like big guitar completely died out in the early 90s, it just transformed.

Not sure why I'm posting this other than to pump up Nuno's tyres and to say that the Rolling Stone list was absolutely terrible, even though that's been said for years and years now.

 

[ozph1870]

nirvanas pre death popularity is overrated. yeah they were big and had a couple of catchy pop songs on the pop charts, but bands like guns and roses, metallica, even those dodgy crooks u2, pearl jam were way bigger at the time (ten sold 3.6 million copies in 92 compared to 2.8 million copies of nevermind) nirvanas last album in utero showed their popularity was fading quickly. kurts shotgun was the best thing that ever happened to his legacy.
post death they released mtv unplugged, post death sales dwarf pre death sales and a 'legend' is born. death moves units....

 

[ozph1870]

I hate Pearl Jam.... But prefer Alive to anything Nirvana has done.

pearl jam are a total joke, but at the time (pre brains on the ceiling) they were way bigger than nirvana.
now i actually like some of nirvanas songs alot more, not their catchy cheesey pop stuff but some of their slightly harder punkier stuff.

 

[charcolechaddy]

I hate Pearl Jam.... But prefer Alive to anything Nirvana has done.

You take that back !

 

[charcolechaddy]

My opinion is that Nirvana came along at the right time and fitted a purpose, but compared to, say the last 50 years of music do they deserve the iconic status that is heaped upon them? I feel that Pearl Jam's Alive and Jeremy are the equal or better than anything Nirvana did, coming from the same era. Cobain's songwriting was mediocre at best, and him re-arranging his face with a shotgun did more to enhance his bands status than their music

I am shocked at this thread, I thought you guys had some music cred, !

 

[ozph1870]

Neil Young head and shoulders above both Pearl Jam and Nirvana IMO

neil young is a knobhead.

 

[TheFVK]

LOL Zakk Wylde 2001 -

In the November 2001 issue of Guitar World, Wylde said, "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his ****in' ass, because I think he sucks, and he wrote this cheese-dick song for OZZY that I have to ****in' play on, and I'll never forgive him for that. FOO FIGHTERS is a ****in' candy-ass girl band, but you've got that mothergoose submitting songs [to OZZY], too. I mean, none of these guys could play a Randy Rhoads solo if they tried. Dave Grohl? **** Dave Grohl! Let him get up there and play 'Mr. Crowley' — he can't ****in' do it! And it's like, you're getting this guy to write songs for OZZY? Just because he played drums for ******* SHITVANA?"

TIL.. Zakk Wylde is a bay 13 poster

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

There's good music in every era, you just need to open your mind as well as your ears and not get blocked by your prejudices.

Having said that, I fcuking hate both the Foo Fighters & Pearl Jam.

Totally agree, you probably have to look in the shadows and fringes a bit more for it though now

 

[ozph1870]

He also penned things like "Teenage angst has paid off well, now I'm bored and old" I friggin' love that line... come at me

serve the servants is close to my favourtite nirvana song.

 

[bomberclifford]

Totally agree, you probably have to look in the shadows and fringes a bit more for it though now

For sure. Not sure if this is more the case now-a-days or just that my tolerance for what's popular is lessening at the same rate as the grey in my beard is spreading.

 

[ozph1870]

That's fine.

Nirvana's status was at it's peak before Cobain suicided. The argument that they became more popular because of his death is stupid because they were already insanely popular.

The argument that Pearl Jam were better is more stupid but I guess it's subjective.

were you even alive then? pearl jam were huge then.

 

[ozph1870]

Didn't one of Pearl Jams albums break records when it was released? I don't mind hearing Nirvana songs or Pearl Jams once in a while, I personally felt that those songs mentioned were better, that is a personal choice. I did not state in my original post that they became more popular than they were after Cobain's death, I wrote that it 'enhanced their status'. you know...the punk thing?

yes, pearl jams album 10 was released the same year as nevermind, ten sold nearly 1 million more copies that year.

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

For sure. Not sure if this is more the case now-a-days or just that my tolerance for what's popular is lessening at the same rate as the grey in my beard is spreading.

I got no grey is my wispy facial growth mate it's not an age thing man it's just that 99.8 percent of chart music is shit now

 

[Dylan8]

Totally agree, you probably have to look in the shadows and fringes a bit more for it though now

Welcome to my entire life as i'm a mid 90s baby

 

[El_Scorcho]

yes, pearl jams album 10 was released the same year as nevermind, ten sold nearly 1 million more copies that year.

I was alive but still in single digits. I was aware enough to know that Nirvana were the biggest band in the world.

Nevermind charted better than Ten and reached number 1 on the Billboard 200 charts, which Ten never did.

 

[ozph1870]

I was alive but still in single digits. I was aware enough to know that Nirvana were the biggest band in the world.

Nevermind charted better than Ten and reached number 1 on the Billboard 200 charts, which Ten never did.

at the time pearl jam were bigger, sold more, were bigger. metallica were still playing sold out arenas wowldwide 2 years after their biggest album, the dodgy black album, at the time metallica were bigger. dont let post death hype spoil the truth.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/n...chili-peppers-top-year-in-rock-sales-19930218

 

[Zakk Wylde]

The band Extreme peaked from 91 - 93 using a mashup of funk and hair metal, and my personal favourite guitarist of all time (and who I think it just so technically unique and ridiculous that no one can touch him), Nuno Bettencourt, was absolutely electrifying with what he was playing on those releases. The album Pornograffiti went double platinum and produced a worldwide no. 1 hit, so it's not like big guitar completely died out in the early 90s, it just transformed.

Not sure why I'm posting this other than to pump up Nuno's tyres and to say that the Rolling Stone list was absolutely terrible, even though that's been said for years and years now.

I like Nuno.... Class act.

 

[Zakk Wylde]

Welcome to my entire life as i'm a mid 90s baby

Respect for your love of 80's metal young padawan.

 

[Zakk Wylde]

And for the record.... Alice In Chains were the best thing mid 90's "grunge" produced....

 

[El_Scorcho]

at the time pearl jam were bigger, sold more, were bigger. metallica were still playing sold out arenas wowldwide 2 years after their biggest album, the dodgy black album, at the time metallica were bigger. dont let post death hype spoil the truth.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/n...chili-peppers-top-year-in-rock-sales-19930218

Ten didn't overtake Nevermind in total US sales until a few months into 1993. Nevermind went absolutely berserk on release while Ten was more of a slow burner in 1991.

Metallica had a decade of established fanbase at that point, you can't really compare them to Pearl Jam and Nirvana who were coming out of the blocks.

I don't agree that Pearl Jam were bigger at all. Nirvana were like the Beatles in the early 90s, while Cobain was very much alive. No other band garnered the same level interest.

Regardless, Nevermind was a far more interesting album and is so influential because of that. Ten was a watered down plodder in comparison. Nevermind would still be far more influential if Cobain was alive.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Bruno Mars for the win.....

Uptown Funk is a genuinely good song. Come at me Bigfooty.

 

[tribey]

To put this colossal waste of time into perspective, if my first year on BigTinny was Reception, I'd be doing me SACE necks tyeer.

 

[raman]

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To put this colossal waste of time into perspective, if my first year on BigTinny was Reception, I'd be doing me SACE necks tyeer.

If my first year was reception, I'd be feeling up chicks and stuff for the first time. I win.

 

[Dylan8]

currently mastering walking