Mega Thread The Random Thoughts Thread Part 1

[Magpiespower]

The guy that played Jock nailed that role man.. gloriously not pc

Frank Wilson. Yeah, he was brilliant. Beresford said he had trouble with Wilson, who also played Jock on stage, because his performance was so big. So it was a running battle to rein him in. But it sure as hell worked on screen!

 

[edgie]

Nah, he shouldn't have been violent. With Yoda's warnings about the seduction of the Dark Side he shouldn't have started off evil, but instead of a sulky kid, he should have been an arrogant teen. Obi Wan thinking he can train him, chafes under the restrictions of the Jedi and self-entitlement draws him to the Dark Side. And definitely the prequels should have had none of R2D2, C3PO, Jabba, etc.

I'd hardly say the prequels had Jabba, he was an extra at a race.

The rest is on the mark.

KOTOR 2 had a great subtle sideplot about how your character became "at home" during war, that was glossed over by a lot of players and reviewers.

Something like that would've been good for Anakin.

 

[edgie]

Dylan8 I'm not watching it, it is on in the background, but Tron Legacy sounds like it has an awesome soundtrack and score.

 

[Magpiespower]

Dylan8 I'm not watching it, it is on in the background, but Tron Legacy sounds like it has an awesome soundtrack and score.

Daft Punk...

 

[edgie]

Daft Punk...

Journey...

 

[Doctor Feel]

Every time. Every ****ing time.

I am so sick of Universities bowing to the requests of ****wits who haven't organised their time adequately and applying universal extensions to assignments right near the deadline, of which you have worked very hard to reach.

Every time I scope the list of participants for the course, it's literally me and 1,000 internationals. Uni is a ****ing waste of time and there is literally NO kudos to be had for passing, they literally pass every ****ing campaigner regardless of their input, good thing this masters is paid for by my work.

I wish to savagely beat every campaigner that wears a graduation garb and acts like they've achieved something, you ****ing haven't.

 

[philthy05]

Every time. Every ******* time.

I am so sick of Universities bowing to the requests of *******s who haven't organised their time adequately and applying universal extensions to assignments right near the deadline, of which you have worked very hard to reach.

Every time I scope the list of participants for the course, it's literally me and 1,000 internationals. Uni is a ******* waste of time and there is literally NO kudos to be had for passing, they literally pass every ******* campaigner regardless of their input, good thing this masters is paid for by my work.

I wish to savagely beat every campaigner that wears graduation garb and acts like they've achieved something, you ******* haven't.

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Yeah was basically told as much and saw the same during my brief stay.

Their funding is pretty much dependent on them pretending a bunch of shit that isn't true. They want to keep the money coming.

Attending my gfs graduation was eye opening. Was something like 130+ names in before my girlfriends name and she was the first one I could pronounce and the first white person. When a white early 20's girl is the minority to the tune of 0.65% of a decent sample size in Australia is strange..

 

[Janus]

Nah, he shouldn't have been violent. With Yoda's warnings about the seduction of the Dark Side he shouldn't have started off evil, but instead of a sulky kid, he should have been an arrogant teen. Obi Wan thinking he can train him, chafes under the restrictions of the Jedi and self-entitlement draws him to the Dark Side. And definitely the prequels should have had none of R2D2, C3PO, Jabba, etc.

But if you start him off already being an arrogant little shit, what's the point of redemption? The whole story arc was meant to show how even those with the best of intentions can stray from the path if they are presented with a 'lesser of two evils' option. That's why Episode 1 started out with Anakin as a young boy - it was to show that he was kind, considerate and caring before the arrogance and hubris took over in Episode 2 and then the resentment and mistrust consumed in Episode 3...guided in no small part by the machinations of Palpatine. That's why Luke could say 'there is still good in him' and it actually be true...because the only reason why he became Darth Vader was through fear and then self-loathing.

The story of the prequels is fine in as much as it was always the boring, political stuff that was merely a back story to the real story of Episode 4,5 and 6. Do we really care in a Western why this guy hates that guy other than some cursory 'you killed my mother/where is the buried gold' schtick? No, you just know who the good guy is and the bad guy is and they shoot each other. That's what made the original trilogy so great - you didn't need to understand it to get it. In the prequels, the whole saga with the Trade Federation/Separatists is just boring clap-trap to show how Palpatine maneuvered to become the Emperor. If the OT was about the good guys winning, the PT was about the bad guys winning. And since the bad guys won by duplicity and subterfuge rather than all out war, it was always going to be boring.

Yes, the prequel trilogy could have been made better in terms of telling a cohesive story, but the reason why Lucas did it the way he did was because it needed to be told this way for everything else to make sense in the way that he had envisaged it to relate to each other. And that was to show what happens to the same sort of individual (Anakin vs Luke) when they are faced with positive/negative reinforcement (Obi Wan/Yoda vs Palpatine). He needed another creative mind in the process that could see the story he was trying to tell and help translate that onto the screen. Instead, he had a sycophantic 'yes man' in Rick McCullum who would do everything Lucas said instead of translating that into what he meant like a good producer should.

The other issue I have with the PT is that unlike the OT, the actors were all aware that they were in a huge phenomenon called Star Wars rather than the modest sci-fi movie that guys like Cushing and Guiness signed up for that no one had heard about. The PT became an actor in of itself, so instead of acting in the world, it felt like everyone was acting outside of it - not living on places like Tattooine, but acting as though they were living on Tattooine. That comes from the lack of practical effects, which reduced the ability of limited range actors like Christensen and Portman to get into their roles.

In short, I see the PT as a necessary evil to understand the rest of the story...but I only ever have to watch it once, whereas the OT and hopefully the ST and spinoffs I can enjoy again and again.

 

[philthy05]

Christopher lee's performance in the prequels was outstanding. The best thing about them. Totally bought into everything about him. In hindsight as a director you must look at that and he should have played a bigger role...

 

[edgie]

But if you start him off already being an arrogant little shit, what's the point of redemption? The whole story arc was meant to show how even those with the best of intentions can stray from the path if they are presented with a 'lesser of two evils' option. That's why Episode 1 started out with Anakin as a young boy - it was to show that he was kind, considerate and caring before the arrogance and hubris took over in Episode 2 and then the resentment and mistrust consumed in Episode 3...guided in no small part by the machinations of Palpatine. That's why Luke could say 'there is still good in him' and it actually be true...because the only reason why he became Darth Vader was through fear and then self-loathing.

The story of the prequels is fine in as much as it was always the boring, political stuff that was merely a back story to the real story of Episode 4,5 and 6. Do we really care in a Western why this guy hates that guy other than some cursory 'you killed my mother/where is the buried gold' schtick? No, you just know who the good guy is and the bad guy is and they shoot each other. That's what made the original trilogy so great - you didn't need to understand it to get it. In the prequels, the whole saga with the Trade Federation/Separatists is just boring clap-trap to show how Palpatine maneuvered to become the Emperor. If the OT was about the good guys winning, the PT was about the bad guys winning. And since the bad guys won by duplicity and subterfuge rather than all out war, it was always going to be boring.

Yes, the prequel trilogy could have been made better in terms of telling a cohesive story, but the reason why Lucas did it the way he did was because it needed to be told this way for everything else to make sense in the way that he had envisaged it to relate to each other. And that was to show what happens to the same sort of individual (Anakin vs Luke) when they are faced with positive/negative reinforcement (Obi Wan/Yoda vs Palpatine). He needed another creative mind in the process that could see the story he was trying to tell and help translate that onto the screen. Instead, he had a sycophantic 'yes man' in Rick McCullum who would do everything Lucas said instead of translating that into what he meant like a good producer should.

The other issue I have with the PT is that unlike the OT, the actors were all aware that they were in a huge phenomenon called Star Wars rather than the modest sci-fi movie that guys like Cushing and Guiness signed up for that no one had heard about. The PT became an actor in of itself, so instead of acting in the world, it felt like everyone was acting outside of it - not living on places like Tattooine, but acting as though they were living on Tattooine. That comes from the lack of practical effects, which reduced the ability of limited range actors like Christensen and Portman to get into their roles.

In short, I see the PT as a necessary evil to understand the rest of the story...but I only ever have to watch it once, whereas the OT and hopefully the ST and spinoffs I can enjoy again and again.

That's a fair and well written assessment in explanation of the films. kudos.

 

[edgie]

Christopher lee's performance in the prequels was outstanding. The best thing about them. Totally bought into everything about him. In hindsight as a director you must look at that and he should have played a bigger role...

Him and Maul but I guess you can't have both.

Which is strange, as the so called "rule of two" that the Sith have is the first rule broken in every expanded universe work.

 

[Zakk Wylde]

Jessica Alba.... So good.

 

[Dylan8]

Him and Maul but I guess you can't have both.

Which is strange, as the so called "rule of two" that the Sith have is the first rule broken in every expanded universe work.

Which is fair. Either the current apprentice isn't good enough or the apprentice considers his master weak so trains a secret apprentice of their own. Demonstrates well how the balance of power works between master and apprentice at a certain point.

 

[edgie]

Which is fair. Either the current apprentice isn't good enough or the apprentice considers his master weak so trains a secret apprentice of their own. Demonstrates well how the balance of power works between master and apprentice at a certain point.

Mara Jade, Asajj Ventress, Starkiller... all "secret apprentices". It got a bit ridiculous there.

IMHO it's a shit rule anyway, but gee, at least show some consistent integrity!

 

[Dylan8]

But if you start him off already being an arrogant little shit, what's the point of redemption? The whole story arc was meant to show how even those with the best of intentions can stray from the path if they are presented with a 'lesser of two evils' option. That's why Episode 1 started out with Anakin as a young boy - it was to show that he was kind, considerate and caring before the arrogance and hubris took over in Episode 2 and then the resentment and mistrust consumed in Episode 3...guided in no small part by the machinations of Palpatine. That's why Luke could say 'there is still good in him' and it actually be true...because the only reason why he became Darth Vader was through fear and then self-loathing.

The story of the prequels is fine in as much as it was always the boring, political stuff that was merely a back story to the real story of Episode 4,5 and 6. Do we really care in a Western why this guy hates that guy other than some cursory 'you killed my mother/where is the buried gold' schtick? No, you just know who the good guy is and the bad guy is and they shoot each other. That's what made the original trilogy so great - you didn't need to understand it to get it. In the prequels, the whole saga with the Trade Federation/Separatists is just boring clap-trap to show how Palpatine maneuvered to become the Emperor. If the OT was about the good guys winning, the PT was about the bad guys winning. And since the bad guys won by duplicity and subterfuge rather than all out war, it was always going to be boring.

Yes, the prequel trilogy could have been made better in terms of telling a cohesive story, but the reason why Lucas did it the way he did was because it needed to be told this way for everything else to make sense in the way that he had envisaged it to relate to each other. And that was to show what happens to the same sort of individual (Anakin vs Luke) when they are faced with positive/negative reinforcement (Obi Wan/Yoda vs Palpatine). He needed another creative mind in the process that could see the story he was trying to tell and help translate that onto the screen. Instead, he had a sycophantic 'yes man' in Rick McCullum who would do everything Lucas said instead of translating that into what he meant like a good producer should.

The other issue I have with the PT is that unlike the OT, the actors were all aware that they were in a huge phenomenon called Star Wars rather than the modest sci-fi movie that guys like Cushing and Guiness signed up for that no one had heard about. The PT became an actor in of itself, so instead of acting in the world, it felt like everyone was acting outside of it - not living on places like Tattooine, but acting as though they were living on Tattooine. That comes from the lack of practical effects, which reduced the ability of limited range actors like Christensen and Portman to get into their roles.

In short, I see the PT as a necessary evil to understand the rest of the story...but I only ever have to watch it once, whereas the OT and hopefully the ST and spinoffs I can enjoy again and again.

The prequels would have been far better presented, from a story standpoint, if based around Sidious and his relationship with Anakim, rather than Obi Wan and Anakin. Like the novel Darth Plagueis and how it showed the rise of Sidious.

 

[Dylan8]

Mara Jade, Asajj Ventress, Starkiller... all "secret apprentices". It got a bit ridiculous there.

IMHO it's a shit rule anyway, but gee, at least show some consistent integrity!

It's good because it's shows that they hunger for power despite the rules. But they never abandon them altogether. Idk

 

[edgie]

Jessica Alba.... So good.

At not getting her gear off.

Remember that time she refused to do an almost nude scene, so they had to use CGI to do her body not quite naked?

I mean, how ****ed is that? It's like me saying, no, I will not wear speedos, I will wear boardies then you can CGI my body with speedos. Just bizzare.

I got over my Jessica Alba phase pretty quickly.

Yes, I see the irony that I'm still in the throes of a Portman crush, even though she doesn't exactly show us the goods either. She was in Star Wars, that's my excuse.

 

[Dylan8]

It's a good rule because the sith were more likely to take over with scheming and plotting in the background rather than with an army of sith.

 

[Zakk Wylde]

At not getting her gear off.

Remember that time she refused to do an almost nude scene, so they had to use CGI to do her body not quite naked?

I mean, how stuffed is that? It's like me saying, no, I will not wear speedos, I will wear boardies then you can CGI my body with speedos. Just bizzare.

I got over my Jessica Alba phase pretty quickly.

Yes, I see the irony that I'm still in the throes of a Portman crush, even though she doesn't exactly show us the goods either. She was in Star Wars, that's my excuse.

I just like her.

 

[Dylan8]

I just like her.

Me too, because reasons.

 

[Zakk Wylde]

Me too, because reasons.

We think the same spec mod.

 

[edgie]

I just like her.

She's damn good looking, no denying that.

Pretty sure she is Wingard's celebrity crush.

 

[Zakk Wylde]

She's damn good looking, no denying that.

Pretty sure she is Wingard's celebrity crush.

Just watched Into the Blue.

 

[Zakk Wylde]

Made my wife carry our baby today so I could put my carton in the pram.

 

[BIG MATTY WHITE]

The worst thing about the prequels was mase windu.....he was the strongest jedi and just got dismissed