Mega Thread The Random Thoughts Thread Part 1

[BIG MATTY WHITE]

Not liking Star Wars is fine, it's not for everyone. But you have a serious issue with your critical thinking if you're arguing that the prequels are better. All bad is fine. All good is fine. Prequels > Originals is an opinion you're going to have to explain a bit more deeply, because it's an absurd position to take. The prequels are deeply flawed films and a missed opportunity. The original trilogy are timeless classics.

Again, your argument doesn't make sense in regards to Star Wars fans and non-Star Wars fans. Dylan had all 6 movies available to him at the same time, then watched them all and became a fan because of the original trilogy because they are better films. I wasn't the die hard fan I am now when I was 13 and thought Phantom Menace was alright but it wasn't as good as the originals. You're trying to argue that the average person who had no history with Star Wars watching them for the first time would prefer the prequels to the originals because the originals have dated. That's wrong.

You still haven't explained in what way they've dated. You've just skirted around the issue and talked about people that don't even like the movies and their irrelevant opinions. Tell me why they are dated and compare and contrast with the prequel trilogy and Force Awakens.

Mate its just their opinions....

Not mine....

I dont care. ....i love the old ones...

Calling my friends F***ing idiots....over it us just raging stupidity...

 

[Dylan8]

The new one had no sign off ewok or jar jar binks characters

BB8....was great

BB8...

Spoiler

Was basically a moving storage locker. Same as R2. Until R2 proved his usefulness repairing the starfighers, opening doors, etc. R2's utility and cheeky-kent personality coupled with C3PO's pedanticism made them a perfect comic relief duo with genuine utility.

BB8 had a couple of cute moments but he had nothing on the OT droids. 3PO's introduction was the funniest part of the movie btw.

 

[edgie]

I re-watched III earlier last week and genuinely felt bad for Ewan Mcgregor, he acted is ass off and was surrounded by cardboard boxes that didn't make the cut.

Jackson, Palpatine, and Bail Organa are pretty good, as well as Yoda if that counts.

 

[BIG MATTY WHITE]

BB8...

Spoiler

Was basically a moving storage locker. Same as R2. Until R2 proved his usefulness repairing the starfighers, opening doors, etc. R2's utility and cheeky-kent personality coupled with C3PO's pedanticism made them a perfect comic relief duo with genuine utility.

BB8 had a couple of cute moments but he had nothing on the OT droids. 3PO's introduction was the funniest part of the movie btw.

I agree...

Nothing beats 3po and r2d2...

But bb8 s***s on ewoks and jar jar

 

[SteppingTiger]

Lightsaber fights were manifestations of what was going on in the movie and were significant to the plot. Was Luke wailing on Darth Vader at the end of Jedi good, choreography wise? Nah, but it was gripping because he lost his shit and was giving in to the dark side. Darth Vader basically toying with Luke in Empire? No triple backflips or anything, but it was brilliant because it was Luke facing Vader for the first time and there was so much tension when the lightsabers clashed.

Spoiler

Testing out the spoiler tag.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Mate its just their opinions....

Not mine....

I dont care. ....i love the old ones...

Calling my friends F***ing idiots....over it us just raging stupidity...

Yes, and their opinions are stupid.

But they didn't get on a forum and present their opinions to Star Wars fans, you did.

4-6 are classics and always will be to star wars fans but very dated and ....kiddy compared to the new one.

Upon being asked to explain your statement, you wont actually say why you think that the original trilogy is dated, and now you're trying to palm that call off to your "friends" and wash your hands of it because you don't actually have anything of substance to argue.

It's fine. We're all friends here. But if you're going to present a reasonably extreme opinion about something very popular, you probably want to be able to defend it, even just a little bit.

"yeah well actually it was my friend who doesn't even like Star Wars, I love Star Wars so it's not even really my opinion" is literally the weakest argument of all time.

 

[SteppingTiger]

Lightsaber fights were manifestations of what was going on in the movie and were significant to the plot. Was Luke wailing on Darth Vader at the end of Jedi good, choreography wise? Nah, but it was gripping because he lost his shit and was giving in to the dark side. Darth Vader basically toying with Luke in Empire? No triple backflips or anything, but it was brilliant because it was Luke facing Vader for the first time and there was so much tension when the lightsabers clashed.

Spoiler

FOr me, this is what made the the Kylo Ren fights believabletoo. It was more GoT than Revenge of the Sith final fight. I view the fight as possible as Kylo was not necessarily trained in lightsaber arts as he was so well trained in using the force for mind control/manipulation and some physical environment stuff.
He was fighting injured and angry and therefore it was believable. Rey was also pretty talented with the staff already, so used to fighting. For me, every blow looked like the intent was to kill.....not to dance like Obi wan v Anakin

 

[edgie]

A bit of rose coloured glasses coming up in this thread.

The dialogue in a New hope was stunted as ****.
The Obi/Vader light saber scene was laughable, now I dont expect twirly flipping flashy shit like the prequels but they were just touching their phallic like sabers against each other for a couple minutes and then Obi goes "well thats enough of this" and dies.

Also "It's the ship that made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs."
parsec is a distance unit not a time unit.
So it's the ship that made the Kessel run in less than 19 trillion miles ...lol Lucas.

It actually means that's the falcon has the best and fastest navicomputer allowing it to plot safe and quick routes for travel. The Kessel run is a particularly hazardous journey full of obstacles.

 

[Dylan8]

If your biggest gripe is some nerd shit like what a parsec is, something literally no one would have noticed in a Sci-Fi movie with all kinds of dumb made up words, then it's fine.

Hell, you could even interpret that as Han not being particularly intelligent but more arrogant and reliant on his cunning to get by.

 

[edgie]

I easily place ROTS above ROTJ, honestly that film is only saved by Luke Skywalker and the space battle, the rest is quite a chore. The second half of ROTS is seriously underrated and hard to find meaningful fault in.

TFA better than both but worse than 4 and 5.

 

[Dylan8]

I easily place ROTS above ROTJ, honestly that film is only saved by Luke Skywalker and the space battle, the rest is quite a chore. The second half of ROTS is seriously underrated and hard to find meaningful fault in.

TFA better than both but worse than 4 and 5.

The lightsaber duel is so far over the top and stupid. Great moment at the end when Obi Wan cuts down Anakin though.

 

[edgie]

The prequel duels are becoming quite underrated. Brilliant choreography and no, I don't think it detracts from emotional investment in the scene.

TFA was... Meh. It was Episode 2 style meh. It happened and it advanced the plot, that's it. I also don't think the camera was that crash hot during it.

 

[edgie]

The lightsaber duel is so far over the top and stupid. Great moment at the end when Obi Wan cuts down Anakin though.

No way, it is the 2 best and most experienced saber duellists going toe to toe. It's amazing. In parts it gets silly, in terms of standing on droids, but the actual saber choreography is great, and you still sense the emotion and trauma in the actors.

Obi, such a bipolar Jedi.

 

[Dylan8]

The choreography means nothing to me. You know nothing is going to happen until they slow it down a bit so you're just watching a bunch of backflipping.

I just watched it now. Lol at Hayden Christiansen opening his mouth. Ever.

You underestimate my paaaower

Blreeghhh

 

[Dylan8]

You were my brother Anakin... I loved you.

Certainly didn't show, ever.

 

[BIG MATTY WHITE]

No way, it is the 2 best and most experienced saber duellists going toe to toe. It's amazing. In parts it gets silly, in terms of standing on droids, but the actual saber choreography is great, and you still sense the emotion and trauma in the actors.

Obi, such a bipolar Jedi.

Obi is my favourite...


He pretty much beat everything put in front of him without really being talked up in his skills as a jedi....besides being wise...

 

[BIG MATTY WHITE]

You were my brother Anakin... I loved you.

Certainly didn't show, ever.

Which was weird....

I thought jedi werent supposed to love only show compassion...

 

[SilenceOz]

If your biggest gripe is some nerd shit like what a parsec is, something literally no one would have noticed in a Sci-Fi movie with all kinds of dumb made up words, then it's fine.

Hell, you could even interpret that as Han not being particularly intelligent but more arrogant and reliant on his cunning to get by.

Lay it on a bit thicker, that wasn't my "biggest gripe" the other things in my posts were, it was just a sign of shoddy dialogue.

Also "some nerd shit" the entire Star wars franchise is "nerd shit"
Im not saying I dont like "nerd shit" but Star Wars is the epitome of classic "nerd shit"

 

[Dylan8]

Which was weird....

I thought jedi werent supposed to love only show compassion...

He wasn't gay for Anakin.

Love =/= romance.

 

[BIG MATTY WHITE]

He wasn't gay for Anakin.

Love =/= romance.

Obviously....but any kind of love was forbidden...

Hence anakin's mum story..

 

[tribey]

You were my brother Anakin... I loved you.

Certainly didn't show, ever.

Some third assistant director probably came up with the most amazing Obi-Anakin relationship montage ever but Lucas vetoed in favour of Jar Jar Binks riding the dolphin from Seaquest causing a rift worse than Mick Molloy refusing to put Tony Martin's associated mockumentary on the BoyTown DVD.

 

[edgie]

Obi is my favourite...


He pretty much beat everything put in front of him without really being talked up in his skills as a jedi....besides being wise...

Except Maul, Jango, droids in the arena, Dooku, Dooku again, Grevious, and old man Vader.

Let's face it, most of his victories he pulled a get out of jail free card.

 

[edgie]

You were my brother Anakin... I loved you.

Certainly didn't show, ever.

There was a love-hate relationship there.

Unfortunately Obi was just an inexperienced and reluctant Master, an interesting subplot that was investigated deeper by Lucas... never.

 

[BIG MATTY WHITE]

He didnt lose to maul....

Except Maul, droids in the arena, Dooku, Dooku again, Grevious, and old man Vader.

Let's face it, most of his victories he pulled a get out of jail free card.

He didn't lose to maul..

That's what I loved about him....he just kept surviving....due to arrogance of the sith

The fact he beat Anakin says he can beat doku

And Vader doesn't count he was old and weak

 

[edgie]

He didnt lose to maul....
He didn't lose to maul..

That's what I loved about him....he just kept surviving....due to arrogance of the sith

The fact he beat Anakin says he can beat doku

And Vader doesn't count he was old and weak

Maul had him down for the count but fart arsed around instead of landing the knockout.
Dooku incapacitated him... twice... despite being 1 vs 2.
Obi was not old and weak, he had no issue ****ing over that "death penalty in 12 systems" fella in the blink of an eye.
His victory against Anakin was on the back of Anakin being in emotional turmoil.

Also I added in Jango.