The Terrorism Files - 2015, 2016

[VineyIsLORD]

http://new-pakistan.com/2011/10/07/no-terrorism-in-pakistan-before-2001-think-again/

Why does anybody listen to anything this guy has to say.

It is so embarrassing how factually incorrect the stuff he talks about is.....less posting more reading is my suggestion.

To suggest that somehow the war on terror is responsible for the violent ideology of Islam, a text that is 1400 years old and requests violence against the un-believer, is a fallacy.

That article doesnt disprove the point I made.

I never claimed there was no terrorism in Pakistan. Only that there were no suicide bombings.

But one thing is for certain, since the war on terror began it has absolutely resulted in a massive increase in terrorism.

Maybe we should declare war on museums and books...

 

[yebbo]

Yeah, coz there were no jihadist attacks in Europe before that. FFS. Do you have a keeper that posts for you?

You are ridiculous. For a journalist you have very average analytical skills. But what would you expect for someone who has to write something that suits only the agenda of a New World Order funded editor and paper.

The Paris attacks had a major effect on the psyche of Europeans the way it was carried out. I mean they shot young hip Europeans having a good time at a concert. Look at how Facebook reacted with the flag for Paris etc and the only other time that I can remember that caused such passion in Europe was the London bombings which was 10 years ago.

The timing of the attack was right at the time that Europeans were really beginning to become aggrieved with the suicidal open borders policy and the obvious fact that many ISIS trained soldiers were without doubt streaming into the country.

Now sure there were other attacks in Europe before this because these Jihadi's have a constant war going on against the infidel (any non-muslim) but the timing of this was not very strategic. Considering that the Quran suggests that muslims should have sufficient numbers in a host country before attacking why threaten that by such a savage attack that might REALLY awaken the world to the dangers of Islam.

With people like you as journalists under control of the NWO is it any wonder that the world is so stupid and brainwashed.

 

[Total Power]

That article doesnt disprove the point I made.

I never claimed there was no terrorism in Pakistan. Only that there were no suicide bombings.

But one thing is for certain, since the war on terror began it has absolutely resulted in a massive increase in terrorism.

Maybe we should declare war on museums and books...

I agree with this part, but read up on Lashkars Fidayeen group, they been suicide bombing kashmir before the war in iraq.

Hezbollah been using suicide bombing for a long time too.

 

[VineyIsLORD]

I agree with this part, but read up on Lashkars Fidayeen group, they been suicide bombing kashmir before the war in iraq.

Hezbollah been using suicide bombing for a long time too.

Hezbollah are the government of southern Lebanon. Not sure what that has to do with Pakistan?

 

[Total Power]

Here is someone who doesnt have his head in sand and he is Muslim too

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...is-has-nothing-to-do-with-islam-a7060871.html

People should admit the "uncomfortable" truth that Islamic State is made up of Muslims and their doctrine is Islamic, the BBC’s head of religion told an audience of students.

Professor Aaqil Ahmed, the first Muslim to hold the role at the corporation, said it was wrong to suggest the terrorist group "has nothing to do with Islam" during a speech at Huddersfield University last week.

 

[Total Power]

Hezbollah are the government of southern Lebanon. Not sure what that has to do with Pakistan?

Nothing, but Hezbollah been using this tactics against various US embassies in the middle east for a while.

 

[DemonTim]

You are ridiculous. For a journalist you have very average analytical skills. But what would you expect for someone who has to write something that suits only the agenda of a New World Order funded editor and paper.

The Paris attacks had a major effect on the psyche of Europeans the way it was carried out. I mean they shot young hip Europeans having a good time at a concert. Look at how Facebook reacted with the flag for Paris etc and the only other time that I can remember that caused such passion in Europe was the London bombings which was 10 years ago.

The timing of the attack was right at the time that Europeans were really beginning to become aggrieved with the suicidal open borders policy and the obvious fact that many ISIS trained soldiers were without doubt streaming into the country.

Now sure there were other attacks in Europe before this because these Jihadi's have a constant war going on against the infidel (any non-muslim) but the timing of this was not very strategic. Considering that the Quran suggests that muslims should have sufficient numbers in a host country before attacking why threaten that by such a savage attack that might REALLY awaken the world to the dangers of Islam.

With people like you as journalists under control of the NWO is it any wonder that the world is so stupid and brainwashed.

He just posted that he is no longer a journalist.

Calm down champ, your abuse isn't really adding anything, it's derailing the thread and causing others to attack each other, instead of having rational discussion (i'm actually enjoying total power, viney, maddadam etc discussion when it remains civil. Theyre all making good discussion.

Maybe quit just abusing people and their post counts, and take a step back for a bit to calm down. It's why I haven't posted, people get way too emotional here and it happens to the best of us.

 

[yebbo]

I agree with this part, but read up on Lashkars Fidayeen group, they been suicide bombing kashmir before the war in iraq.

Hezbollah been using suicide bombing for a long time too.

So we are off block now. It would have been no fun for him sprouting his trolls and having no-one to shoot him down

Thats the point that brainwashed people, like Viney and Procrastinator, miss. Yes of course since the war on terror Jihad has increased because the war on terror has been bought to Islamic lands....all that is in the Quran.

BUT

It was always going to happen regardless its just been sped up. People don't realise or simply ignore the ideology behind the Quran that any non-believer has to die....and this does not mean that any American or British person has to die because they "started it first" this means anyone that does not fully believe the word of Mohammed.

So that could be fellow muslims who reneg or have a different view of the Koran, Christians and Jews from anywhere in the world the list goes on.

The Quran is an ancient text 1400 years old that if you don't fully subscribe to then you are liable for death. That is somewhat older than the war on terror.

Research the Quran you ignorant apologists.

 

[DemonTim]

Here is someone who doesnt have his head in sand and he is Muslim too

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...is-has-nothing-to-do-with-islam-a7060871.html

I think for a lot of people, it's just them not putting away their viewpoint in the correct way (I know i've done it in the past. Islam is definitely involved in what is happening, but it may not be the main reasons behind the actions.

 

[Total Power]

I think for a lot of people, it's just them not putting away their viewpoint in the correct way (I know i've done it in the past. Islam is definitely involved in what is happening, but it may not be the main reasons behind the actions.

I agree, not main, but one of the reasons. What i dislike is "blame it on the west" propaganda. Yes American is guilty, absolutely are, but the sectarian violence in the middle east killed millions in the past 100 years. I guarantee you if US pack up and leave the middle east, this still wont stop.

 

[DemonTim]

I agree, not main, but one of the reasons. What i dislike is "blame it on the west" propaganda. Yes American is guilty, absolutely are, but the sectarian violence in the middle east killed millions in the past 100 years. I guarantee you if US pack up and leave the middle east, this still wont stop.

I agree, it's probably not the cause of the violence, maybe it made the violence more widespread, but that's hard to say if it's the case. All hypothetical.

 

[yebbo]

He just posted that he is no longer a journalist.

Calm down champ, your abuse isn't really adding anything, it's derailing the thread and causing others to attack each other, instead of having rational discussion (i'm actually enjoying total power, viney, maddadam etc discussion when it remains civil. Theyre all making good discussion.

Maybe quit just abusing people and their post counts, and take a step back for a bit to calm down. It's why I haven't posted, people get way too emotional here and it happens to the best of us.

Its you again...sigh. You are so far off the mark from where the abuse originally came from. Especially in my first encounter with you (look back if you don't agree). And if you think Total power isn't subjected to constant abuse then you are also deluded. And post counts is a serious concern...where is the time taken to listen, learn and research yet they act as though they are the wisest "dudes" on terrorism.

I am not getting emotional (far from it you are guessing again) I am just sick of dealing with these people who have such a brainwashed outlook on such a serious subject and try and back it up with irrational logic while ignoring the obvious facts on terror.

And if you say that you enjoy reading Viney and Madadam then you are seriously deluded. And go on abuse me with calling me uneducated (hopefully you've read that I'm actually far from it) and stupidity (second post you wrote to me in this thread). Don't take the patronising "moral high ground" with me and yes who cares what a logical fallacy or whatever it is and i should show you what geoff wrote to me because we had a good laugh at how hypocritical you are.

i guess you are good at winning Bigfooty arguments though aren't you.

 

[Total Power]

I agree, it's probably not the cause of the violence, maybe it made the violence more widespread, but that's hard to say if it's the case. All hypothetical.

100 percent agree, US added fuel to the fire, this i have been saying right from the beginning. No one is innocent here.

 

[DemonTim]

Its you again...sigh. You are so far off the mark from where the abuse originally came from. Especially in my first encounter with you (look back if you don't agree). And if you think Total power isn't subjected to constant abuse then you are also deluded. And post counts is a serious concern...where is the time taken to listen, learn and research yet they act as though they are the wisest "dudes" on terrorism.

I am not getting emotional (far from it you are guessing again) I am just sick of dealing with these people who have such a brainwashed outlook on such a serious subject and try and back it up with irrational logic while ignoring the obvious facts on terror.

And if you say that you enjoy reading Viney and Madadam then you are seriously deluded. And go on abuse me with calling me uneducated (hopefully you've read that I'm actually far from it) and stupidity (second post you wrote to me in this thread). Don't take the patronising "moral high ground" with me and yes who cares what a logical fallacy or whatever it is and i should show you what geoff wrote to me because we had a good laugh at how hypocritical you are.

i guess you are good at winning Bigfooty arguments though aren't you.

See, this just showed everything i was saying. I admitted I did it, that's why I stepped away. I really don't care what these hypothetical messages between you and Geoff say. For someone who is insulting people based on amount of posts, it's strange that you'd feel private messaging about a person you've never met is not a waste of time.

MaddAdam VineyIsLORD, there you go mate, happy to tell both sides to cut the abuse. Not really sure what's wrong with enjoying reading people have a discussion, even if I do or don't agree. Understanding people's viewpoints is a good way to learn things.

Even Total Power seemed to agree with what I said to you. As I said mate, it's much better if everyone quits attacking each other and just has discussion, but you seem to even want to argue about that.

Your thought process is also very scattered, the bolded sentence is three random thoughts put together as one, when they don't relate. It's reasons like these (and the need to insult me, when I wasn't attacking you) that give the impression you're getting emotional.

Brainwashed is an opinion.

 

[DemonTim]

100 percent agree, US added fuel to the fire, this i have been saying right from the beginning. No one is innocent here.

Yep. I'd really like to compare the thought processes of islamic extreme groups, to extreme groups from other religious and political leanings. Might help understand why this violent extremism occurs. Which would be a huge step in stopping it

 

[yebbo]

See, this just showed everything i was saying. I admitted I did it, that's why I stepped away. I really don't care what these hypothetical messages between you and Geoff say. For someone who is insulting people based on amount of posts, it's strange that you'd feel private messaging about a person you've never met is not a waste of time.

MaddAdam VineyIsLORD, there you go mate, happy to tell both sides to cut the abuse. Not really sure what's wrong with enjoying reading people have a discussion, even if I do or don't agree. Understanding people's viewpoints is a good way to learn things.

Even Total Power seemed to agree with what I said to you. As I said mate, it's much better if everyone quits attacking each other and just has discussion, but you seem to even want to argue about that.

Your thought process is also very scattered, the bolded sentence is three random thoughts put together as one, when they don't relate. It's reasons like these (and the need to insult me, when I wasn't attacking you) that give the impression you're getting emotional.

Brainwashed is an opinion.

Geez your patronising, hypocritical and just plain wrong. Why don't you become a mod button pusher.

I'm not wasting my time with you and I expect to see no abuse from you towards anyone hypocrite.

 

[DemonTim]

Geez your patronising, hypocritical and just plain wrong. Why don't you become a mod button pusher.

I'm not wasting my time with you and I expect to see no abuse from you towards anyone hypocrite.

Not really sure why you'd bag out the mods, you wouldn't have a platform to abuse people without them.

If I slip up feel free to point it out, i'd rather keep emotion out of discussion. Enjoy your day champ

 

[yebbo]

Not really sure why you'd bag out the mods, you wouldn't have a platform to abuse people without them.

If I slip up feel free to point it out, i'd rather keep emotion out of discussion. Enjoy your day champ

Champ???? patronizing much in your soft voice. Anyone can play that game.

If you think abuse isn't a part of Bigfooty and that us "right wingers" haven't received more than we have given then you are a lost cause.

Enjoy your day "champ" i'll gladly leave you to have a rational unemotional discussion and see where it goes then.

 

[DemonTim]

Champ???? patronizing much in your soft voice. Anyone can play that game.

If you think abuse isn't a part of Bigfooty and that us "right wingers" haven't received more than we have given then you are a lost cause.

Enjoy your day "champ" i'll gladly leave you to have a rational unemotional discussion and see where it goes then.

I told both sides to stop it. I even tagged the others? I hate the term "right winger", it's one of those of the "political correctness" ilk. Overused and misused.

Although I think you're just being obtuse now.

 

[yebbo]

I told both sides to stop it. I even tagged the others? I hate the term "right winger", it's one of those of the "political correctness" ilk. Overused and misused.

Although I think you're just being obtuse now.

There you go again with the last patronising word.

I consider calling someone "champ" and "obtuse" very rude and you know it. read the Grade cricketer for a definition of "champ"

Look I want to step away from this thread and I happy to read what everyone says.....

Bye "champ"

 

[DemonTim]

There you go again with the last patronising word.

I consider calling someone "champ" and "obtuse" very rude and you know it. read the Grade cricketer for a definition of "champ"

Look I want to step away from this thread and I happy to read what everyone says.....

Bye "champ"

Serious question, how would I know that you consider it very rude? You keep telling me i'm wrong when I say what I think you mean

 

[yebbo]

Serious question, how would I know that you consider it very rude? You keep telling me i'm wrong when I say what I think you mean

Please stop getting the last word. I'm happy to step away from the thread and see what others have to say.

Everyone knows the word "champ" is rude and inflammatory and sure I don't know if you but I'm guessing you do. Would you call someone in the office obtuse....I don't think so because it implies that they are stupid. Everyone on Bigfooty is a hypocrite i understand that and I am too.


Haha I love grade cricketer.

Anyway seriously I am out....please let me have the last word just this once. I don't want to go through this again and I'm sure you don't either.

 

[DemonTim]

Please stop getting the last word. I'm happy to step away from the thread and see what others have to say.

Everyone knows the word "champ" is rude and inflammatory and sure I don't know if you but I'm guessing you do. Would you call someone in the office obtuse....I don't think so because it implies that they are stupid. Everyone on Bigfooty is a hypocrite i understand that and I am too.


Haha I love grade cricketer.

Anyway seriously I am out....please let me have the last word just this once. I don't want to go through this again and I'm sure you don't either.

Apologies, wasn't calling you stupid. Was saying you were purposefully being obtuse, meant you were doing it on purpose to annoy.

Didn't mean that as offensive

Don't read grade cricketer (not on twitter). Only look at park cricketer and ressies footballer.

 

[VineyIsLORD]

Nothing, but Hezbollah been using this tactics against various US embassies in the middle east for a while.

Suicide bombing in its current form began with thr Tamil Tigers.

 

[MaddAdam]

You are ridiculous. For a journalist you have very average analytical skills. But what would you expect for someone who has to write something that suits only the agenda of a New World Order funded editor and paper.

The Paris attacks had a major effect on the psyche of Europeans the way it was carried out. I mean they shot young hip Europeans having a good time at a concert. Look at how Facebook reacted with the flag for Paris etc and the only other time that I can remember that caused such passion in Europe was the London bombings which was 10 years ago.

The timing of the attack was right at the time that Europeans were really beginning to become aggrieved with the suicidal open borders policy and the obvious fact that many ISIS trained soldiers were without doubt streaming into the country.

Now sure there were other attacks in Europe before this because these Jihadi's have a constant war going on against the infidel (any non-muslim) but the timing of this was not very strategic. Considering that the Quran suggests that muslims should have sufficient numbers in a host country before attacking why threaten that by such a savage attack that might REALLY awaken the world to the dangers of Islam.

With people like you as journalists under control of the NWO is it any wonder that the world is so stupid and brainwashed.

The NWO ... jeez.

And of course Daesh launched those attacks to get exactly that reaction. That's their plan.