The Terrorism Files - 2015, 2016

[Eagle Empire]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Christian_views_on_Muhammad

The earliest (documented) Christian knowledge of Muhammad stems from Byzantine sources, written shortly after Muhammad's death in 632. In the Doctrina Jacobi nuper baptizati, a dialogue between a recent Christian convert and several Jews, one participant writes that his brother "wrote to [him] saying that a deceiving prophet has appeared amidst the Saracens". Another participant in the Doctrina replies about Muhammad: "He is deceiving. For do prophets come with sword and chariot?, …[Y]ou will discover nothing true from the said prophet except human bloodshed".

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

An alleged French Far-Right terrorist has been arrested in Ukraine while on a spending spree for arms and explosives.

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireSt...rench-man-plotting-attacks-euro-2016-39634838

A Frenchman who amassed an arsenal of weapons, explosives and tactical gear was plotting to attack the European Championship soccer tournament and was arrested trying to cross into the European Union from Ukraine, officials said Monday.

Ukrainian agents had been following the man since December, and allowed him to buy five machine guns, two rocket-propelled grenade launchers, 125 kilograms (275 pounds) of TNT, 100 detonators and other arms. He also bought 20 balaclavas before he was arrested at the Yahodyn border crossing between Ukraine and Poland last month, the Ukrainian Security Service said.

The intelligence agency, known as the SBU, "has managed to foil a series of 15 terrorist attacks which were planned to target France before and during" Euro 2016, said its chief, Vasyl Hrytsak.

Ukraine didn't identify the man but said the suspect wanted to protest his government's migration policies and the spread of Islam. It said he planned attacks on bridges, railways and other infrastructure for the Euro 2016...

...French regional newspaper L'Est Republicain identified the man as Gregoire Moutaux and said investigators raided his home in Nant-le-Petit near the eastern city of Nancy in late May. The source for the man's identity wasn't cited. French television network M6 reported that investigators found T-shirts promoting an extreme right group.

Ukrainian authorities released photos of a fair-haired man, with his face blurred, holding various weapons, as well as a video of the arrest which showed special forces officers dragging the man out of a white minivan and putting him face down on the ground of what looked like a parking lot.

The Frenchman arrived in eastern Ukraine last year and was "trying to establish ties with Ukrainian troops under the guise of volunteering," the Ukrainian agency said.

Ukrainian troops and Russia-backed separatists have fought in the east since April 2014, killing nearly 9,400 people. It wasn't immediately clear which side of the conflict the Frenchman had stayed with.

"The Frenchman spoke negatively about his government's migration policies, the spread of Islam and globalization," the SBU said. "He also said that he wanted to perpetrate acts of terror in protest..."

 

[Total Power]

Bal thackery sends his regards

Huh? shiv sena is present in only one indian state and its pretty recent. There are hindu extremist groups i never said there isnt.

 

[Total Power]

Whereas, Western Imperialism is currently on a sabbatical eh.

Islamic terrorism is fueled by that but its certainly not a western intervention. The ottomans, the mongols, the persians, The bengalis, Abu Nidal, the muslim brotherhood, the 1000 years of islamic terrorism is bloodier than you think

 

[Total Power]

Yeah man....Damn those Buddhists & their forcing peace & beneficence down our throats

In how many countries exactly? Myanmar....and? Myanmar had a civil war for a long time. Are you telling me Buddhist terrorists pose as big of a threat as Muslim terrorists? These are the countries with buddhist majority:

Thailand, Cambodia, Myanmar, Bhutan, Taiwan, Vietnam, Japan, Macau, Sri Lanka and Tibet. All largely peaceful countries except Myanmar. Many of them were under colonial rule, yet peaceful. Viney is like a broken record blaming colonialism for everything, its always someone else's fault, typical victim mentality.

 

[Juddism]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-06/where-did-is-come-from,-and-what-does-it-really-want/7369802

clear now?

 

[VineyIsLORD]

It's easier for him to blame Wahabbism and the US rather than admit that Islamic terrorism is widespread and ongoing.

In how many countries exactly? Myanmar....and? Myanmar had a civil war for a long time. Are you telling me Buddhist terrorists pose as big of a threat as Muslim terrorists? These are the countries with buddhist majority:

Thailand, Cambodia, Myanmar, Bhutan, Taiwan, Vietnam, Japan, Macau, Sri Lanka and Tibet. All largely peaceful countries except Myanmar. Many of them were under colonial rule, yet peaceful. Viney is like a broken record blaming colonialism for everything, its always someone else's fault, typical victim mentality.

You confuse me mentioning colonialism with me blaming it for everything. There are multiple factors. Its a nuanced situation and often has specific factors in each country.

You on the other hand are blaming it solely on religion, which is a year 8 bong head level of understanding.

 

[Total Power]

You confuse me mentioning colonialism with me blaming it for everything. There are multiple factors. Its a nuanced situation and often has specific factors in each country.

You on the other hand are blaming it solely on religion, which is a year 8 bong head level of understanding.

I never blamed it solely on the religion, i always said religion is ONE of the factors. Unlike you and p35, its either "america is the bad guy" or "blame it on colonialism". Every damn response is the same and you talk about having an understanding of an 8 year old? So why dont you explain why so many other countries like i mentioned, under colonial rule didnt turn out like that and started killing each other?

 

[bad setanta]

You on the other hand are blaming it solely on religion, which is a year 8 bong head level of understanding.

, don't need a PhD to figure out religion is the overriding factor, and someone who themselves has not been to Uni probably shouldn't be making statements about year 8 levels of understanding.

 

[Total Power]

, don't need a PhD to figure out religion is the overriding factor, and someone who themselves has not been to Uni probably shouldn't be making statements about year 8 levels of understanding.

South Korea was occupied by Japan until 1945 and the country was in abject poverty now it's one of the strongest economies in the world how long can these countries keep blaming 'the British' for? 100, 200, 300 years? People like Viney have little understanding of the reality, its always blame game, its always everyone else's fault but never ours.

 

[CLUBMEDhurst]

, don't need a PhD to figure out religion is the overriding factor, and someone who themselves has not been to Uni probably shouldn't be making statements about year 8 levels of understanding.

I've looked at numerous definitions of terrorism and they all seem to illustrate that main factors are political objectives.

it has always been thus

 

[CLUBMEDhurst]

South Korea was occupied by Japan until 1945 and the country was in abject poverty now it's one of the strongest economies in the world how long can these countries keep blaming 'the British' for? 100, 200, 300 years? People like Viney have little understanding of the reality, its always blame game, its always everyone else's fault but never ours.

Converted recently, Power?

 

[Total Power]

Converted recently, Power?

Just returning from my local mosque

 

[Total Power]

I've looked at numerous definitions of terrorism and they all seem to illustrate that main factors are political objectives.

it has always been thus

Absolutely! howelse will you enforce Islam on people, look at Turkey and Erdogan, he is trying his best to make sure Turkey turns into another middle eastern country. You can say oh its only one person,, but its not. Many in the Turkish parliament are calling for religious laws to replace the turkish secular laws. Thats how you start, the rest is what will follow.

 

[VineyIsLORD]

Converted recently, Power?

From merely stupid to dangerously bigoted.

 

[bad setanta]

From merely stupid to dangerously bigoted.

Does PJ.Harvey have to be associated with your ignorance and naivety? Reckon you could change your photo....thanks in advance

 

[DemonTim]

, don't need a PhD to figure out religion is the overriding factor, and someone who themselves has not been to Uni probably shouldn't be making statements about year 8 levels of understanding.

The overriding factor? What do you have to support that?

 

[Big Dix]

You confuse me mentioning colonialism with me blaming it for everything. There are multiple factors. Its a nuanced situation and often has specific factors in each country.

You on the other hand are blaming it solely on religion, which is a year 8 bong head level of understanding.

You can't even admit that the many outdated and evil verses in the quran are even slightly responsible for enticing Muslims to carry out terrorist attacks.

 

[bad setanta]

I've looked at numerous definitions of terrorism and they all seem to illustrate that main factors are political objectives.

it has always been thus

It's a moot point, Sure back in the 40's 50's that would be the case and I think of the Zionists in Palestine as an example how that is correct, however things have changed somewhat. Let's not forget that Religion not only provides an inducement but it also provides a reward for such behaviour. Who can define motivation of a terrorist action better than extremists themselves?... for example when they scream Allah Akbah literally every single time I'm willing to take them at their word and acknowledge they are in fact doing it for Allah and the objectives of Islam, to many scholars and experts wont actually listen to what they say.
Also let's acknowledge that Islam is itself a political objective it wants total control over everything. Totalitarianism the very essence of religion and the modern objective of Political Islam.

 

[DemonTim]

You can't even admit that the many outdated and evil verses in the quran are even slightly responsible for enticing Muslims to carry out terrorist attacks.

From what I understand the Quran forbids suicide. How does that fit in with these theories?

 

[bad setanta]

The overriding factor? What do you have to support that?

Them that do it themselves, unless that's not good enough for you lol

 

[DemonTim]

Them that do it themselves, unless that's not good enough for you lol

It's not. Look at most of the mass murderers historically, a large amount claim God spoke to them, when the actual fact is they have severe mental impairments. I'd say it's likely that terrorism fits the same mould. A justification of an act, by someone with a damaged mental state.
If religion is the OVERRIDING factor, then all religious people would act the same. I'd say you don't need a PH.D. to see that religion is not the OVERRIDING factor.

 

[bad setanta]

From what I understand the Quran forbids suicide. How does that fit in with these theories?

Without trying to sound condescending, perhaps you need a better understanding of the religion.

 

[DemonTim]

Without trying to sound condescending, perhaps you need a better understanding of the religion.

It's been directly quoted (maybe not in this thread). Muslim scholars and clerics admit suicide is forbidden so:
1. You can't be condescending when you're wrong
2. Of course you mean to be condescending. It's all you do.

 

[bad setanta]

It's not. Look at most of the mass murderers historically, a large amount claim God spoke to them, when the actual fact is they have severe mental impairments. I'd say it's likely that terrorism fits the same mould. A justification of an act, by someone with a damaged mental state.
If religion is the OVERRIDING factor, then all religious people would act the same. I'd say you don't need a PH.D. to see that religion is not the OVERRIDING factor.

That analogy doesn't ring true. To say they are mentally deranged is a cop out an simply not true, these are perfectly sane people with extreme belief systems. It's an disturbing fact but still a fact all the same.