The Terrorism Files - 2015, 2016

[Total Power]

Bloke is off tap stupid.

Dont you work? you are always on bigfooty, and you call me stupid.

 

[VineyIsLORD]

I asked you this: (bloody hell)



Is it so hard for you to comprehend?




you are right, i was wrong, i am man enough to admit it, unlike liars and bigots like you, i am big enough. I pointed out over 3 times in our convo you lied, you just avoided it.


Lol bigot and proud of it. Going by that, south africans are racist, white aussies are murderers, north koreans are psychos, israelis are cold blooded killers lol carry on, bigot.

I was replying to your initial assertion that prior to 2001 wahabbism/salafism was restricted to the middle east. A blatantly incorrect statement.

You did not mention Afghanistan in your initial post. Afghanistan is not in the middle east. You are doing a dance of avoidance because you know how stupid you look, even without your laughable assertion that Ottomans were Wahabbis. Where did you even get that info (rhetorical, the answer is clearly your butthole)?

Word of advice: Stop getting your information from blogs unless you are happy to keep looking this stupid.

 

[VineyIsLORD]

Dont you work? you are always on bigfooty, and you call me stupid.

You are stupid.

If you are going to continue to resort to post count discussions and the like it doesnt exactly support your argument.

I am independantly wealthy for the record. And sleep on a big pile of jewels, cash and Russian made AK47s.

 

[Total Power]

I was replying to your initial assertion that prior to 2001 wahabbism/salafism was restricted to the middle east. A blatantly incorrect statement.

You did not mention Afghanistan in your initial post. Afghanistan is not in the middle east. You are doing a dance of avoidance because you know how stupid you look, even without your laughable assertion that Ottomans were Wahabbis. Where did you even get that info (rhetorical, the answer is clearly your butthole)?

Word of advice: Stop getting your information from blogs unless you are happy to keep looking this stupid.

How about the context? i was arguing bombing in south thailand. Juddism came and said its wahabbism and i asked how is it relevant and you came and said wahabbism blah blah blah. How is my post about bombing of south thailand related to wahabbism? wahabbism was non existent in malaysia back then, it was pretty much restricted to the middle east and afghanistan and it wasnt really a strong movement even. I am still waiting on how what i said about thailand is relevant to wahabbism?

You are obviously angry cause you cannot support your argument, i ask you again, what wahabbist movement was strong (even in the middle east and afghanistan?). It was a soft wahabbi movement, as saudi oil money wasnt there in the 70s YET. Why dont you educate yourself?

 

[Total Power]

You are stupid.

If you are going to continue to resort to post count discussions and the like it doesnt exactly support your argument.

I am independantly wealthy for the record. And sleep on a big pile of jewels, cash and Russian made AK47s.

Ofcourse , a bloke who is online 24/7 is unlikely to have a job, so i am correct here. A bloke who is even bragging about his wealth here, i am sure if you are wealthy you would find something else to do with your life than posting 60 times a day on a footy forum but yeah, you are wealthy i am sure. A wealthy socialist bitching about rich people all the time, i am sure. Btw i thought you blocked me lol couldnt help it could you?

 

[VineyIsLORD]

How about the context? i was arguing bombing in south thailand. Juddism came and said its wahabbism and i asked how is it relevant and you came and said wahabbism blah blah blah. How is my post about bombing of south thailand related to wahabbism? wahabbism was non existent in malaysia back then, it was pretty much restricted to the middle east and afghanistan and it wasnt really a strong movement even. I am still waiting on how what i said about thailand is relevant to wahabbism?

I was referring only to your stupid comment about wahabbism/salafism only spreading after 2001.

Colonialism plays a much bigger role in separatist issues in SE Asia than religion does.

Keep trying to change the goal posts. It is fun watching you squirm.

 

[VineyIsLORD]

Ofcourse , a bloke who is online 24/7 is unlikely to have a job, so i am correct here. A bloke who is even bragging about his wealth here, i am sure if you are wealthy you would find something else to do with your life than posting 60 times a day on a footy forum but yeah, you are wealthy i am sure. A wealthy socialist bitching about rich people all the time, i am sure. Btw i thought you blocked me lol couldnt help it could you?

You just make it too easy. You are a great combination of arrogant and ignorant so when i get bored I pick out a few of your countless factual errors and make fun of you.

You arent much good for anything else.

 

[Total Power]

I was referring only to your stupid comment about wahabbism/salafism only spreading after 2001.

i was correct, wahabbism started to spread after the Iraq war, in the 1990's not 2001, previously it was in the middle east only (and afghanistan). It was a still a weak movement as the saudi oil money wasnt quite there.

Comonialism plays a much bigger role in separatist issues in SE Asia than religion does.

Keep trying to change the goal posts. It is fun watching you squirm.

rofl here we go on, when there is no argument left, its 1. colonialism 2. america. You are wonderful

 

[Total Power]

You just make it too easy. You are a great combination of arrogant and ignorant so when i get bored I pick out a few of your countless factual errors and make fun of you.

You arent much good for anything else.

Factual errors, it was one, compared to 100s from you. Yours are not even errors, just blatant lies.
So wahabbism was not responsible for thai bombing yeah?

 

[Total Power]

Wahabbism started spreading drastically in the 70s.

Here, care to support this statement? drastically, where? wahabbism was a pretty small movement in the 70s Saudi wasnt that rich then, funding was short. You talk about making shit up?

 

[VineyIsLORD]

i was correct, wahabbism started to spread after the Iraq war, in the 1990's not 2001, previously it was in the middle east only (and afghanistan). It was a still a weak movement as the saudi oil money wasnt quite there.


rofl here we go on, when there is no argument left, its 1. colonialism 2. america. You are wonderful

**** me dead mate so now you are again trying to revise your statement to the 1990s rather than the early 2000s (which is what you said initially)

You said it spread AFTER the war on terror began. Did the war on terror start in the 90s now?

 

[Total Power]

**** me dead mate so now you are again trying to revise your statement to the 1990s rather than the early 2000s (which is what you said initially)

You said it spread AFTER the war on terror began. Did the war on terror start in the 90s now?

https://www.preceden.com/timelines/72375-the-history-of-wahhabism

Nothing much was happening in the 70s actually. The first wahabbi terror act was in the 80s (in the modern era). So, what "drastically" spreading in the 70s bs are you talking about?

 

[VineyIsLORD]

https://www.preceden.com/timelines/72375-the-history-of-wahhabism

Nothing much was happening in the 70s actually. The first wahabbi terror act was in the 80s (in the modern era). So, what "drastically" spreading in the 70s bs are you talking about?

So the war on terror started in the 80s now? Was this before or after the Ottomans converted to Salafism and committed atrocities for the kingdom of saudi arabia?

Lol

 

[Total Power]

**** me dead mate so now you are again trying to revise your statement to the 1990s rather than the early 2000s (which is what you said initially)

You said it spread AFTER the war on terror began. Did the war on terror start in the 90s now?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism

I said it starting SPREADING after the war on terror. Previously it was pretty much geographically restricted. Read up on post 9/11 in the link i sent you. I didnt say there was no wahabbism before that.

 

[Total Power]

So the war on terror started in the 80s now? Was this before or after the Ottomans converted to Salafism and committed atrocities for the kingdom of saudi arabia?

Lol

I didnt say that, i said wahabbism was geo restricted then, was a pretty small movement. You are lying again. How many wahabbist terror acts were committed prior to the war on terror? serious question.

 

[Total Power]

So the war on terror started in the 80s now? Was this before or after the Ottomans converted to Salafism and committed atrocities for the kingdom of saudi arabia?

Lol

Educate yourself

http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/article/saudi-connection-wahhabism-and-global-jihad

Indeed, 80 percent of the 1,200 mosques operating in the US were constructed after 2001, more often than not with Saudi financing. As a result, Wahhabi influence over Islamic institutions in the US was considerable by 2003,

Since 2011, between 100 and 150 new mosques are at various stages of planning and construction across France. The Muslim Council of France claims that less assistance for such expansion comes from “foreign organizations,” but US government sources suspect that much of the funding is actually funneled from Saudi sources through difficult-to-track chains of bank accounts and person-to-person cash transfers.

When US-led coalition forces moved into Afghanistan and Iraq, in 2001 and 2003 respectively, the conditions had already been laid for them to be battled to the death by local and foreign fighters committed to the Wahhabi ideology. When Western troops withdrew, the ideologues attacked recently installed governments with renewed “substantial and sustained” Saudi support, in the words of Richard Dearlove, former head of MI6, Britain’s foreign intelligence service. The goal seems to be that of ensuring Sunni groups loyal to Wahhabism and allied to Saudi Arabia will control both those nations as well as neighbors wracked by unrest like Pakistan and Syria. Consequently, such countries become training grounds for al-Qaeda–affiliated groups and the Islamic State. Thus, over the past three years, in Yemen, Iraq, Syria, and most recently Lebanon, the Saudi state has been able to utilize jihadis to launch a “proxy Sunni-Shia war” aimed specifically against Iran and its Shiite and Alawite allies, according to US Vice President Joe Biden. Saudi action was initially directed by Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the kingdom’s former ambassador to Washington and ex–intelligence chief, who had warned Dearlove, even prior to 9/11, that “the time is not far off, in the Middle East when it will be literally, ‘God help the Shia.’ More than a billion Sunnis have simply had enough of them.”

The war on terror made wahabbism spread like a cancer, now wahabbist ideology exists in every country. I still await your evidence how drastically wahabbism spread in the 70s. And then you call me about making up facts lol its a bit rich coming from you

 

[Big Dix]

Someone is sore.

Sore? Please. You got called out on your blatant hypocrisy. You use generalisations when it suits you but slam others when they use them. Pathetic, but typical of the moronic Left.

 

[Total Power]

Sore? Please. You got called out on your blatant hypocrisy. You use generalisations when it suits you but slam others when they use them. Pathetic, but typical of the moronic Left.

and he calls others a bigot lol

 

[VineyIsLORD]

Sore? Please. You got called out on your blatant hypocrisy. You use generalisations when it suits you but slam others when they use them. Pathetic, but typical of the moronic Left.

Have a cry.

 

[DemonTim]

This is all making me think i've been arguing with the wrong people

 

[VineyIsLORD]

Sore? Please. You got called out on your blatant hypocrisy. You use generalisations when it suits you but slam others when they use them. Pathetic, but typical of the moronic Left.

Whi have I slammed for using generalisations?

I have corrected idiots for saying things like:

1. Islam not reforming is the biggest cause of terrorism
2. Ottomans were Wahabbis
3. Colonialism has nothing to do with unrest in SE Asia
4. Wahabbism/Salafism only existed in the ME prior to the war on terror

And the latest kneeslapper "name a terrorist attack by Wahabbis that took place prior to the war on terror!"

Answer: two bombings of the world trade centre and a strong of attacks across Africa and the middle east, specifically those targeting the US military

Feel free to contribute something of substance whenever you want. Or just keep cheerleading like a goose. Up to you.

 

[DemonTim]

Whi have I slammed for using generalisations?

I have corrected idiots for saying things like:

1. Islam not reforming is the biggest cause of terrorism
2. Ottomans were Wahabbis
3. Colonialism has nothing to do with unrest in SE Asia
4. Wahabbism/Salafism only existed in the ME prior to the war on terror

And the latest kneeslapper "name a terrorist attack by Wahabbis that took place prior to the war on terror!"

Answer: two bombings of the world trade centre and a strong of attacks across Africa and the middle east, specifically those targeting the US military

Feel free to contribute something of substance whenever you want. Or just keep cheerleading like a goose. Up to you.

Can you quote the posts you're apparently doing all this correcting of? I have argued with the same people you have on here, but it seems you're not actually responding to what they're saying.

 

[VineyIsLORD]

Can you quote the posts you're apparently doing all this correcting of? I have argued with the same people you have on here, but it seems you're not actually responding to what they're saying.

I am not going to do that for you. Feel free to read through their bollocks yourself though, it starts about 5 pages back. Then is followed by 4 pages of cheerleading and squirming while calling me out because Im not a cultural relativist, as if I should be bothered.

The TP post asking for an example of a Wahabbi terror attack before the war on terror began is on this page though. Judging by the sources these cretins use i would wager he didnt think of 9-11 is because he thinks it was an inside job. Or he just forgot about it.

It all stems from the fundamental disagreement that TP believes the primary cause of terrorism is that Islam has never reformed (false) and I believe there are a variety of factors, mostly specific to the regions they occur in.

 

[DemonTim]

I am not going to do that for you. Feel free to read through their bollocks yourself though, it starts about 5 pages back. Then is followed by 4 pages of cheerleading and squirming while calling me out because Im not a cultural relativist, as if I should be bothered.

The TP post asking for an example of a Wahabbi terror attack before the war on terror began is on this page though. Judging by the sources these cretins use i would wager he didnt think of 9-11 is because he thinks it was an inside job. Or he just forgot about it.

It all stems from the fundamental disagreement that TP believes the primary cause of terrorism is that Islam has never reformed (false) and I believe there are a variety of factors, mostly specific to the regions they occur in.

I've read it. Hence asking, because from what I read, you're jumping at shadows

 

[Total Power]

Can you quote the posts you're apparently doing all this correcting of? I have argued with the same people you have on here, but it seems you're not actually responding to what they're saying.

Yes i said that its true, but the rest of the things are pure BS. He got called for

1. Saying i support state terrorism (Lie)
2. AFP reckons far right is the biggest threat to the country (Lie)
3. Wahabbism started to spread drastically in the 70s (False)
4. Calling an average saudi racist jihadi bigot (bigoted).

There are many others as well, but i wont get to that, he keeps picking on that one thing i said cause he has nothing else to hold onto.

I standby waht i said, wahabbism started to spread after the war on terror, previously it was geo restricted. If he thinks he can prove me wrong, let him, but he cant. He can only insult.