The Toon Army thread

[Masss#10]

yer that looks right but that wont happen with BSA he always has to chop and change the team, so you have to feel sorry for those guys because they gain momentum and then lose it, not so much for enrique but beye definetly...he looks like a confidence player...

i dont like newcastle without taylor...his a waste on the bench..he needs to be on the park

 

[Nardz]

Well, its funny you mention that, as I've just won the Premier League in 2011/12 with Newcastle

Given
Vanden Borre - Coloccini - Taylor - O'Brien/Darijo Srna
Welch - Gerrard - Freddy Guarin - Bell/Mancini
Martins/Owen - Rapp/Okaka

With quality players not even making the bench.

Daniel O'Brien, Tom Welch, Darren Bell and Jorg Rapp are all regens, the first three products of my youth system. I signed Jorg Rapp for 190k when he was 16 years old, now at 21 he's worth a staggering 37,500,000 pound and bangs in goals for fun, won the scoring last season with 31 goals in the premier league, to go with 14 in all other competitions to finish with 45 for the year.

So could you give me the address please?

interesting to note that you dont have any current players in the midfield. milner/nzogbia don't progress well enough??

i've just about finished my first season... so the insight may help

 

[wellsy]

Owen out with a thigh strain for a couple of weeks. Hurt once again on international duty...

 

[ShearMagic9]

interesting to note that you dont have any current players in the midfield. milner/nzogbia don't progress well enough??

i've just about finished my first season... so the insight may help

Well I would've kept N'Zogbia as he was progressing quite nicely, but Arsenal came in with an 18m pound offer, and I was struggling for money at the time. Milner just didnt do enough though.

Owen out with a thigh strain for a couple of weeks. Hurt once again on international duty...

Is it wrong of me to be happy about it? Although knowing Sam it will be Ameobi that plays not Martins.

 

[tribey]

Owen out with a thigh strain for a couple of weeks. Hurt once again on international duty...

Surprised Jod hasn't been in here to supply us with bibs and chocolate body paint so we can all take turns blowing the great man just because he still chooses to stay a 'Newcastle player'...

 

[Masss#10]

not happy with the owen injury...his quality in and around the box but an injury is the last thing we want...looks martins and viduka will be up front against liverpool but i want all three of them to start one game in the future

 

[ronnie wearmouth]

The defence now is the best it's been in a long time. Our problem now is definitely our midfield, and while its not as bad as Derbys (), it definitely needs improving if we are to challenge for European spots.

Duff is coming back from injury, and I actually forgot he played for us. Quality player if we can get him off the treatment table.

I haven't seen you around before, good to see new posters voicing their opinions though

Which side do you support?

Newcastle United, we have the best defence for a long time but we still let in silly goals...... portsmouth at home was not good but hopefully we can improve.

 

[tige19]

Taylor is future England CB, the guy is 21 and the future of the club, pair him with Rozehnal and let them work things out. The reason I am not 100% in favour of Faye is simply because he is 29 and not a Geordie, I dont doubt his ability (all be it as limited as it is) or his character on the pitch I just prefer to see a home grown lad playing who has more talent in his left testicle than Fayes whole body.

Anyway I think the most important thing that we all want to see is some consitency with selection, all this chopping and changing must have the players scratching their heads.

Martins has also come out again in an interview saying how he loves the club and the fans and wants to stay at Newcastle for a few more years. Now I would bet that if this guy was told he is our number 1 striker we would have him for as long as we want.

Owen needs to go, he is not half the player he was at Real, even though he didnt play as much there he was still banging them at a 1-2 ratio.

 

[ronnie wearmouth]

Taylor is future England CB, the guy is 21 and the future of the club, pair him with Rozehnal and let them work things out. The reason I am not 100% in favour of Faye is simply because he is 29 and not a Geordie, I dont doubt his ability (all be it as limited as it is) or his character on the pitch I just prefer to see a home grown lad playing who has more talent in his left testicle than Fayes whole body.

Anyway I think the most important thing that we all want to see is some consitency with selection, all this chopping and changing must have the players scratching their heads.

Martins has also come out again in an interview saying how he loves the club and the fans and wants to stay at Newcastle for a few more years. Now I would bet that if this guy was told he is our number 1 striker we would have him for as long as we want.

Owen needs to go, he is not half the player he was at Real, even though he didnt play as much there he was still banging them at a 1-2 ratio.

Yes its time for owen to move on, he plays more for england than the toon,love martins and viduka but we still need more quality players. We are not in the top 6 teams at the moment and with our huge fanatical support we should be right up there with the best. Away the lads.

 

[moomba]

Taylor has been a bit disappointing for Newcastle this season hasn't he? Seems to have gone backward a bit, not sure if the contract impasse has been sorted yet and that might be having some effect.

 

[Embers]

Taylor has been a bit disappointing for Newcastle this season hasn't he? Seems to have gone backward a bit, not sure if the contract impasse has been sorted yet and that might be having some effect.

The Taylor hype confuses me too. Hasnt played well for a long time as far as I can see

 

[ShearMagic9]

I'm one of Steven Taylors biggest fans but I dont think he's in our best XI.

You can use tiges argument and play him cos he's young and the future of our club, but then we wouldn't be putting our best XI on the pitch.

 

[tribey]

To be fair to Taylor, his preseason was interrupted by a long sojourn with the England U21s where he inevitably picked up an injury and he's had to adjust to yet another new manager (his fourth since his first team debut and he's only 21) and a host of new defensive teammates.

What he needs is to be settled in the heart of defence, with a senior partner who he can build an understanding with (Rozenhal) and get games under his belt.

All this chopping and changing from CB (standing beside one of three different newbies in a given 90 minutes) to RB to the bench can't be doing him any good.

 

[Rough_Edges]

WTF are Newcastle doing..watched them 3 times now and everytime they get it in their on half they ****en bomb it long, and it never comes off.

I don't understand? Why do they do it?

 

[ShearMagic9]

What a brilliant performance.

Very unlucky to lose that match 3-0, Liverpool could have had no arguments if the scoreline was reversed.

 

[Masss#10]

ive woken up now cozz im in San Diego, i came in last night so the EPL games happen here in the morning...i woke up and saw the 3-0 result...how did we play? what happened?

 

[Embers]

ive woken up now cozz im in San Diego, i came in last night so the EPL games happen here in the morning...i woke up and saw the 3-0 result...how did we play? what happened?

Alan Smith was back to his spectacular self. Reina was closing his eyes by the end of it such was the ferocity of Smiths piledriving long range efforts. Thank god for that crossbar. Copped a beating tonight

2 goals incorrectly ruled offside. Especially the Viduka one. I mean he was only offside by 1 metre. Let it go ffs.

Biggest shock came when Michael Owen graced the pitch with 10 minutes to go. That own goal was brilliant. Probably the most attacking bit of play all year from Fat Sam

 

[ShearMagic9]

Alan Smith was back to his spectacular self. Reina was closing his eyes by the end of it such was the ferocity of Smiths piledriving long range efforts. Thank god for that crossbar. Copped a beating tonight

2 goals incorrectly ruled offside. Especially the Viduka one. I mean he was only offside by 1 metre. Let it go ffs.

Biggest shock came when Michael Owen graced the pitch with 10 minutes to go. That own goal was brilliant. Probably the most attacking bit of play all year from Fat Sam

masss - Remember the Portsmouth game? If possible we actually played worse than that. If Torres could finish we would've (rightly) lost 6 or 7 Nil.

Crowd booing Sams every move, I dont think it will be long until we fork out another hefty compensation package, dont do well for another 20 games, and then sack that manager. The cycle will go on and on like that for another 50 years, until we eventually win something.

 

[tribey]

masss - Remember the Portsmouth game? If possible we actually played worse than that. If Torres could finish we would've (rightly) lost 6 or 7 Nil.

Crowd booing Sams every move, I dont think it will be long until we fork out another hefty compensation package, dont do well for another 20 games, and then sack that manager. The cycle will go on and on like that for another 50 years, until we eventually win something.

If Roeder had received the same level of financial backing that Souness and Allardyce have enjoyed he'd be doing a better job than either of them right now (and in fact did when he saved us from relegation and somehow got us into Europe).

Had us playing on the carpet, exploiting our strengths (Obajet, wingers) and in the face of a ridiculous injury list and bargain basement signings like Sibierski and Moore.

Big Sam has spent 24 million to date - and has had Owen more often than not - and we're playing like Darlo.

 

[Portmanteau]

Play Milner and N'Zogz in the same team.
Give the ball to Milner and N'Zogz.
Have them cross it into the V-Bomber.

/strategy

 

[GeordieRoo]

If Roeder had received the same level of financial backing that Souness and Allardyce have enjoyed he'd be doing a better job than either of them right now (and in fact did when he saved us from relegation and somehow got us into Europe).

Had us playing on the carpet, exploiting our strengths (Obajet, wingers) and in the face of a ridiculous injury list and bargain basement signings like Sibierski and Moore.

Big Sam has spent 24 million to date - and has had Owen more often than not - and we're playing like Darlo.

Yup. All spot on.

Can't help but feel we are treading water until the next manager.

Should have kept Roeder.

 

[tribey]

Play Milner and N'Zogz in the same team.
Give the ball to Milner and N'Zogz.
Have them cross it into the V-Bomber.

/strategy

It's much better to play with 4 central midfielders and have them punt bombs at jockeys - while playing the likes of Reading, no less... much, much better...

 

[ShearMagic9]

Yup. All spot on.

Can't help but feel we are treading water until the next manager.

Should have kept Roeder.

Ahh yes how wonderful hindsight is.

I do remember when Roeder was sacked a vast majority saying what a correct move it was and how tripe Roeder was.

We should never have sacked SBR. Thats when our problems started.

 

[apollo_creed]

While that might be true;

Isn't is time you fellas went down the foreign route?

SBR, Souness, Roeder, Big Sam....

Mourinho hearts Geordies.

 

[tribey]

Ahh yes how wonderful hindsight is.

I do remember when Roeder was sacked a vast majority saying what a correct move it was and how tripe Roeder was.

Absolutely. Because the vast majority usually have no idea.

If not for Martins we'd have been relegated last year - and no thanks to the duds he inherited from Souness or the complete lack of support from Shepherd who was clearly looking for Roeder to just tread water while Shearer got his badges/the desire to take the job.

When you consider no Shearer (or a replacement), no Owen and no money, Roeder did fantastically well - and his statistics are testament to that.

There was never anything wrong with his style of play.

We should never have sacked SBR. Thats when our problems started.

Robson had to go. He'd lost the dressing room, the faith of the chairman ("I've sold Woodgate and bought Kluivert, Bobby") and was even more senile than usual.

The critical error was we had no-one already lined up. Allardyce said no. Bruce said no. McClaren said no. Souness said "are you serious?!, LOL OK" as he was weeks away from the chop at Blackburn.