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[robertg22]

I'd probably start Tiote if he is ready to go, hasn't played a lot recently and needs more of a run into his legs I reckon
Would love to see Armstrong get minutes with the senior team

 

[NUFC Tiger]

I'd probably start Tiote if he is ready to go, hasn't played a lot recently and needs more of a run into his legs I reckon
Would love to see Armstrong get minutes with the senior team

Yeah, Tiote was awesome on the weekend, probably our best. Just don't want to push him too much if it can be avoided. Didn't he get subbed off with pretty bad cramp against Hull? Probably like Cisse, it's going to be a long way to January so we need to try and keep the few performing players we have fit and healthy.

Not sure if Chucky will make the squad but if he doesn't would be great to see Arma getting a good 30-45 minutes to show his stuff!

 

[NUFC Tiger]

Well colour me surprised! We won a game! (albeit against a second string Palace side and get to play Man City away in the next round)

Some good signs though! Positives (FYI - I didn't see the game, just going off reports and highlights)

• Riviere off the mark with 2 goals (his first one was quite a nice one too - spinning off Hangeland and putting it into the corner from the edge of the box). Hopefully will give him the confidence to start scoring in the league now.
• Equally exciting, 17 year old Armstrong had 2 assists and nearly a goal too on his starting debut. Perhaps Pardew needs to start playing him/giving him 20-30 minutes a game to help his development? Played in the number 10 role behind Riviere and looked the goods!
• Dummett getting the winner (from an Armstrong cross) when we were down to 10 men, always good to see an academy lad scoring!
• Ferreyra was on the bench! (though unused).
• Starts for youngsters - Armstrong, Abeid, Ameobi and Dummett plus game time for Perez and Haidara too.

Team that played this morning:
------------Elliot-----------
Janmaat Colo Taylor Dummett
------Abeid Colback---------
Obertan---Armstrong---Ameobi
-----------Riviere-------------

 

[NUFC Tiger]

 

[robertg22]

Ahh told you I'd love to see Armstrong get minutes! Glad to hear he did well.

Hope that this game gives Riviere a bunch of confidence to take forward.

 

[NUFC Tiger]

Ahh told you I'd love to see Armstrong get minutes! Glad to hear he did well.

Hope that this game gives Riviere a bunch of confidence to take forward.

Yeah, I seem to recall there being some talk of taking over De Jong's role while he's out? - maybe push Cabella and Sissoko wide (Cabella and Armstrong can rotate/swap during games).

Can't wait for Aarons to get back, him and Armstrong are the future!

 

[robertg22]

Yeah, I seem to recall there being some talk of taking over De Jong's role while he's out? - maybe push Cabella and Sissoko wide (Cabella and Armstrong can rotate/swap during games).

Can't wait for Aarons to get back, him and Armstrong are the future!

Hope to see him in the league soon then.

 

[scon]

Be nice to bowl Man City but they're a bit tasty.We'd have to play out of our skins which would do us the world of good.
This is what I think is the best option and I'm still hopeful:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ed-owner-Mike-Ashley-perfect-for-Rangers.html

 

[NUFC Tiger]

Be nice to bowl Man City but they're a bit tasty.We'd have to play out of our skins which would do us the world of good.
This is what I think is the best option and I'm still hopeful:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ed-owner-Mike-Ashley-perfect-for-Rangers.html

Was trying to open up that article but apparently I've reached the monthly limit of articles I can read from the Telegraph or something

Presumably though Ashley would be a good fit for Rangers because they need financial stability after their recent/ongoing dramas and Ashley, despite being a incredibly frustrating owner, he's got a decent record of restoring the fortunes of brands that have fallen down as well as keeping a tight rein on finances.

 

[scon]

Yup all of that and a bit,I just want the club back: NUFC Tiger

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Newcastle United owner Mike Ashley perfect for Rangers
Unloved owner in the North East should concentrate in taking over at Ibrox – it would be perfect for both Newcastle United and Rangers

Moving on? Mike Ashley, the Newcastle United owner, would not be missed by fans of the club Photo: AP

By Luke Edwards

2:20PM BST 25 Sep 2014

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Given the problems he has had at Newcastle United and the resentment he has caused during his seven years as owner, it may seem curious to suggest Mike Ashley is the ideal man to buy Rangers.

Newcastle were a mediocre mid-table club when Ashley bought them and that is all they remain, yet Ashley could still be the ideal person to restore Rangers to its former glory.

Most Newcastle supporters cannot wait to see the back of him. Although there is appreciation for the work he has done to improve the club as a business there has – with the exception of one fifth-place finish in 2012 – been little, if any, progress as a football club.

There is animosity on both sides, Ashley is still bitter about the way supporters turned against him in the aftermath of Kevin Keegan’s resignation back in 2008, while they are convinced he is content for a proud club to be stuck in a monotonous mid-table wasteland while he uses it to promote his other business interests. The refusal to take cup competitions seriously is a wound that will not heal.

Rangers fans also have their misgivings about Ashley’s intentions. So do the Scotland Football Association, who do not like the idea of one man owning two clubs, even if they play in different domestic competitions.

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Yet, if Ashley wants to buy Rangers, the SFA should let him. I don’t think there is a conflict of interests, just as there isn’t with Manchester City’s owners starting an American franchise, New York City.

The opposition of the SFA to him increasing his stake to more than 10 per cent is a major barrier. He would, in theory, have to sell Newcastle first, but he has denied he wishes to do so. At least, he has denied he wants to at the moment.

In a statement published on the Newcastle website, it was said Ashley will consider selling Newcastle at the end of next season, which interestingly is the earliest Rangers could be back playing in Europe.

Uefa rules stipulate two teams owned by the same person cannot play in their competitions, which is reasonable enough as they could meet in a competitive fixture. That should not matter now if Ashley moves to save Rangers.

Ashley would be an unusual fit for the knight in shining armour role. He is more market trader than chivalrous hero, but just because he has made his billions selling cheap sportswear should not disguise he has been phenomenally successful because of his business brain.

Just because an idea is simple does not mean the man who came up with it isn’t a genius and few are better at making money than Ashley.

Of course, being clever and innovative in business does not automatically mean you will be any good owning a football club and Ashley hasn’t been for Newcastle.

The division between followers and leader saps its strength. The bitterness will not go away, there have been too many callous calls from Ashley, too many mistakes and too many perceived insults for Newcastle’s supporters to forgive and forget.

Newcastle are paralysed by the lack of ambition in the boardroom. Many believe the only cure is a new owner and a new start.

Ashley, though, is able to provide Rangers with exactly what they need, a secure financial footing and stability in the boardroom. He has the money to end the threat of economic meltdown and, as he has shown at Newcastle, he can turn a loss making business into a profitable one within a few years.

The crucial difference between Rangers and Newcastle is that being a stable business in the Premier League is not enough to compete with the top clubs. Ashley stopped wanting to put his own money in to sign players and cover losses when he fell out with the fans and you cannot blame him.

However, a stable business is all that is needed to return Rangers to the top of Scottish football because they are capable of generating far more income than their rivals. Only Celtic can rival Rangers in terms of gate receipts, sponsorship prestige and media interest, so all Ashley has to do to restore the old order is remove the spiral of debt repayments.

Emotionally, no matter how much he tries to put a brave face on, the abuse Ashley receives as Newcastle’s owner must take its toll. There are only so many times you can be told you are overweight and not wanted.

Ashley has broad shoulders and claims he is not particularly bothered what people think and say about him, yet he has also shown a thin enough skin to ban all three local papers for offering their supporting for a protest march calling for him to sell up last season.

Ashley has still managed to make a project turned sour work for him. The exposure has been good for his retail chain, proving once again that there is no such thing as bad publicity. Even when he changed the name of the ground, provoking fury on Tyneside and beyond, Ashley ignored it and watched his other business interests prosper.

Premier League exposure is one of the most powerful marketing tools around and Ashley’s sport shops are undoubtedly better known now than they were when he took over.

Yet, although he has described the relationship between his sport shops and Newcastle as extremely beneficial for the former, it is still only responsible for a tiny fraction of its vast profits.

He would barely notice if he lost them and there is every chance he can make even more if he buys Rangers. Not only do they have more fans worldwide than Newcastle, they are also far more likely to win trophies and success is a good thing to be associated with.

Under his steadying hand, Rangers would almost certainly return to the Champions League, watched by huge television audience across the continent. Europe is the most obvious market place for Ashley’s other business to expand. They look made for each other, but Ashley has not made a move yet.

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[NUFC Tiger]

Thanks scon - when you read that article, it really does make sense, especially to a business savvy guy like Ashley. Sure he'll lose the global Premier League TV audience but he gets the Champions League audience in return, especially with the talk of him wanting to expand Sports Direct into Europe, that would be a good step to doing it.

We can only hope and pray Ashley decides to jet out of Toon one day and he can bring Pardew with him

 

[scon]

Pardew would make a great assistant to Ally McCoist.

 

[robertg22]

Got the new FIFA and of course our loaned out players are still in there... is nice to play with a lineup like this:

Krul
Janmaat MYM Colo Santon
Tiote Sissoko
Ben Arfa De Jong Cabella
Cisse

I will be selling Gouffran and Obertan at my first opportunity!

 

[scon]

'EREWEGO 'EREWEGO ......

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...shley-but-then-claims-its-a-joke-9759060.html

 

[NUFC Tiger]

Maybe where there's smoke, there's fire...

Cashley rarely speaks publically about NUFC, maybe there's some truth (even if he reckons its a joke...).

 

[NUFC Tiger]

Got the new FIFA and of course our loaned out players are still in there... is nice to play with a lineup like this:

Krul
Janmaat MYM Colo Santon
Tiote Sissoko
Ben Arfa De Jong Cabella
Cisse

I will be selling Gouffran and Obertan at my first opportunity!

Still waiting for my copy to arrive.

That team looks good!

Didn't FIFA give a lot of our players poor ratings this season? Colback, Riviere, Anita all being silver rated I think?

 

[robertg22]

Still waiting for my copy to arrive.

That team looks good!

Didn't FIFA give a lot of our players poor ratings this season? Colback, Riviere, Anita all being silver rated I think?

Colback and Anita struggle a bit but Riviere is actually pretty good

Ferreyra isn't bad either haha, he has scored a couple of times for me so far off the bench.

 

[NUFC Tiger]

Colback and Anita struggle a bit but Riviere is actually pretty good

Ferreyra isn't bad either haha, he has scored a couple of times for me so far off the bench.

Just hope he can start doing that in real life now!

 

[robertg22]

Sitting in 3rd position in the league half way through my season of FIFA, wouldn't that be nice! Some interesting/funny things have happened so far:

• Colo requested a transfer away from Newcastle because the weather was making him depressed. I agree and transfer listed him in the January window, and he happily signs for Liverpool! Must be much nicer weather there huh?
• Willo conceded an own goal vs Man U to cost me the game
• I conceded 5 goals to Chelsea.... but scored 4 of my own
• Tiote is leading the league in assists and yellow cards!

I've done a big cleanout of players too, Gouff, Obertan, Colo, Taylor(x2), Ameobi all gone. Sent Dummett out on loan to MK Dons lol

 

[NUFC Tiger]

Sitting in 3rd position in the league half way through my season of FIFA, wouldn't that be nice! Some interesting/funny things have happened so far:

• Colo requested a transfer away from Newcastle because the weather was making him depressed. I agree and transfer listed him in the January window, and he happily signs for Liverpool! Must be much nicer weather there huh?
• Willo conceded an own goal vs Man U to cost me the game
• I conceded 5 goals to Chelsea.... but scored 4 of my own
• Tiote is leading the league in assists and yellow cards!

I've done a big cleanout of players too, Gouff, Obertan, Colo, Taylor(x2), Ameobi all gone. Sent Dummett out on loan to MK Dons lol

3rd in the league? Hope you don't get dizzy looking down from those heights mate

LOL, did Colo really want out because of the weather? That's the first I've heard of a player wanting to leave (on FIFA) because it was a bit cold! Trading in the North East for the North West, I'm sure the difference in climate is understandable for Colo!

Going down 5-4? The entertainers are back!

Good bit of realism there with Tiote leading the way for yellows...

Hoping my copy arrives this week!

 

[NUFC Tiger]

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...a-club-robbed-of-all-its-dreams-30620977.html

Decent article.

In other news, we're not the bottom of the league anymore! (thanks to Burnley losing 4-0 overnight).

Not sure I'll get up early for our game tomorrow morning (have to find a stream which is always hard bleary eyed!). Might catch the second half as 5am is pushing it a bit on a work day (with our end of quarter to spice things up).

Would like to see us try a 4-4-2 with Cisse and Riviere up top. Failing that, Arma and Riviere seemed to strike up a good understanding, hope he is given a chance too.

 

[robertg22]

LOL, did Colo really want out because of the weather? That's the first I've heard of a player wanting to leave (on FIFA) because it was a bit cold! Trading in the North East for the North West, I'm sure the difference in climate is understandable for Colo!

Yeah was crazy that excuse, it actually reminded me a bit of Mitch Clark leaving Brisbane because he was homesick (being from WA) only to end up in Victoria lol

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...a-club-robbed-of-all-its-dreams-30620977.html

Decent article.

In other news, we're not the bottom of the league anymore! (thanks to Burnley losing 4-0 overnight).

Not sure I'll get up early for our game tomorrow morning (have to find a stream which is always hard bleary eyed!). Might catch the second half as 5am is pushing it a bit on a work day (with our end of quarter to spice things up).

Would like to see us try a 4-4-2 with Cisse and Riviere up top. Failing that, Arma and Riviere seemed to strike up a good understanding, hope he is given a chance too.

I'm planning to get up for the game at this stage, will see what time I can get to bed tonight though. 10pm-5am should be enough sleep! Have an early meeting at work tomorrow anyway so should work out OK.

I'd like to see this lineup

-------------Krul----------------
Janmaat Colo Willo Haidara
Sissoko--Tiote Anita-Cabella
----------Armstrong------------
------------Riviere---------------

Hoping Riviere's confidence is back up after the league cup game the other day. Cisse to come off the bench, he has just come back from an illness so is probably not quite 100% yet

 

[NUFC Tiger]

Yeah was crazy that excuse, it actually reminded me a bit of Mitch Clark leaving Brisbane because he was homesick (being from WA) only to end up in Victoria lol

Haha, yeah that's such a bizarre scenario! Hopefully Obertan will tell me the same thing and I can send him packing

I'm planning to get up for the game at this stage, will see what time I can get to bed tonight though. 10pm-5am should be enough sleep! Have an early meeting at work tomorrow anyway so should work out OK.

I'd like to see this lineup

-------------Krul----------------
Janmaat Colo Willo Haidara
Sissoko--Tiote Anita-Cabella
----------Armstrong------------
------------Riviere---------------

Hoping Riviere's confidence is back up after the league cup game the other day. Cisse to come off the bench, he has just come back from an illness so is probably not quite 100% yet

Actually like that team! A fair point too with Cisse (given he's only played the Hull game so far and apparently shouldn't have been cleared to play either!). Riviere definitely needed the goal(s) for his confidence. Hope he can take it from there and start banging them in.

Only change I'd make is Colback for Anita. Read somewhere Janmaat could be a miss through injury - if that happens, Anita or one of Dummett/Haidara will probably need to cover there you'd think.

Wonder if Taylor will get a start, apparently went alright against Palace (mind you, none of our CBs fill me with a lot of confidence at the moment!)

 

[NUFC Tiger]

For some bizarre reason, respected AS Roma manager Rudi Garcia has played Mapou in his true position of centre-back and has been rewarded with three excellent performances.

Roma have conceded only one goal in those last four and a half hours of league football with Mapou at the heart of the defence and indeed against Verona on Saturday, the on-loan Newcastle defender was the man of the match.

The industry leader (used by the football clubs, bookmakers etc) for stats and data analysis, whoscored.com have also now rated Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa as the best performing of all the Roma defenders so far, well ahead of Ashley Cole and the rest.

http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-articles/mapou-yanga-mbiwa-man-match-top-rated-defender-far-roma/

Pardew...

 

[robertg22]

Of course MYM has done well he is a gun! At the very least I hope it means this drives his price up if we end up selling him.