The solution is to listen to what AEMO are saying. The grid is decentralising rapidly, removing the need for big power generating assets. You encourage that process rather than spend $600 million on something that is a guaranteed stranded asset in a few years. Still, I'm sure AGL will be able to pick it up for a dollar then, much as they did with Liddell.
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The solution is to listen to what AEMO are saying. The grid is decentralising rapidly, removing the need for big power generating assets. You encourage that process rather than spend $600 million on something that is a guaranteed stranded asset in a few years. Still, I'm sure AGL will be able to pick it up for a dollar then, much as they did with Liddell.
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there's not point engaging with the right wingers ITT. They've been told over and over but they aren't interested in listening.
Encourage yes, its how.
We all know its a utensil up as it stands.
IF it were about the environment all brown coal plants would be gone by now.
So you are telling me that privatisation has been a massive fail?
Nothing is about the environment with Morrison and Angus Taylor in charge.
Brown coal will be gone in time. Replacing it with more brown coal or gas is bordering on criminal.
Yep, and also black coal. The issue isn't whether they'll be gone, it's whether people are happy with the Federal government wasting $600 million bring to hold back the tide.
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And that the party of the free market is intervening in a market for the benefit of their own very narrow self interest.
This is borderline corruption if not outright corruption and is bad for Australia.
And that the party of the free market is intervening in a market for the benefit of their own very narrow self interest.
This is borderline corruption if not outright corruption and is bad for Australia.
Wow, so many wannabes here. Bring forward solutions to this long running joke of an energy sector. Australia is leading the charge in demandside renewable uptake and with it comes problems. The ESB are working on thier post 2025 recommendations and the Gov will be forced into proper action. Energy market bodies and governments all need data. We are at the forefront of this transition ffs and mistakes and trial and error will happen.
There have been some interesting moves by AEMO and states around solar sponge tariffs, and AEMO having the power to switch off demandside generation which helps alleviate network issues. Re will need dispatchable generation... that's 100 per cent a given. Those who argue against that are just stupid. What tech that is is another story... but private investment isn't as forthcoming as it should be. Yes, lack of commonwealth policy and then forced intervention due to that issue is fked. Cycle thst will repeat. But States need to step up. It's thier responsibility first and foremost.
There have been some interesting moves by AEMO and states around solar sponge tariffs, and AEMO having the power to switch off demandside generation which helps alleviate network issues. Re will need dispatchable generation... that's 100 per cent a given. Those who argue against that are just stupid. What tech that is is another story... but private investment isn't as forthcoming as it should be. Yes, lack of commonwealth policy and then forced intervention due to that issue is fked. Cycle thst will repeat. But States need to step up. It's thier responsibility first and foremost.
they change when the party line changes
no ability to think for the greater good of Australia/World just the greater good of the LNP
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Coalition’s energy policy rooted in communist-style state control
Australia’s calamitous energy and climate policy is going from bad to worse with the government decision to build a $600m gas-fired power plant that will deter private investment.
AEMO can't forecast s**t. FYI. Not thier fault... forecast is only as good as the data.
Bad policy is a fair argument but corruption .... reds under the bed ! Leave that to the University sector, & even there its poor management without oversight not corruption.
How big a battery would be needed to back up the usage of renewables today, if say, the coal & gas were turned off over the weekend for maintenance. No matter its not even on the drawing board worldwide.
The brown coal is all in Vic, where gas exploration is non existent & diesel generators are the back up. Looking to Feds while sitting on their hands having paid down State debt with the proceeds of privatisation ....
Just on this, the future grid won’t be dependent on one or two big batteries. A highly distributed grid will use many smaller or medium sized batteries, including homes and EVs.
Gee, this coal-fired stuff is reliable!!!
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Queenslanders told to reduce energy use as network struggles after power station blaze
Queenslanders are urged to limit their electricity use after an explosion and fire at a power station in central Queensland caused outages to hundreds of thousands of homes and businesses across the state.
Gee, this coal-fired stuff is reliable!!!
Queenslanders told to reduce energy use as network struggles after power station blaze
Queenslanders are urged to limit their electricity use after an explosion and fire at a power station in central Queensland caused outages to hundreds of thousands of homes and businesses across the state.
Power outages from Cairns to Brisbane thanks to an exploding coal power station. Turbines might not spin a lot when it's not windy, but they tend not to explode en-masse.
The blackout added fuel to the mounting debate around the increasing unreliability of coal power generators as they age and as their operations are increasingly required to ramp down during the day as renewable energy takes over, then back up again in the evenings.
The arguments counter those about the intermittent nature of renewable energy because of its dependence on the wind and sun.
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The arguments counter those about the intermittent nature of renewable energy because of its dependence on the wind and sun.
Shortfall fears as fire rips through Queensland power station
A fire in a turbine hall at the coal-fired Callide power station caused an outage that affected some 400,000 customers and took multiple power units offline.
Majority want carbon tax back
A massive majority of Australian voters say they are in favour of a net zero emissions goal – and nearly two in three want a price on carbon.
NEARLY eighty per cent of Australians support getting to net zero by 2050 — and most support the reintroduction of a carbon tax to get there.
The surprising findings come from the Lowy Institute’s annual snapshot of Australian attitudes towards climate change, regarded as one of the most in-depth and long-range tracking studies in this area.
A massive majority of Australian voters say they are in favour of a net zero emissions goal – and nearly two in three want a price on carbon.
NEARLY eighty per cent of Australians support getting to net zero by 2050 — and most support the reintroduction of a carbon tax to get there.
The surprising findings come from the Lowy Institute’s annual snapshot of Australian attitudes towards climate change, regarded as one of the most in-depth and long-range tracking studies in this area.
Majority want carbon tax back
A massive majority of Australian voters say they are in favour of a net zero emissions goal – and nearly two in three want a price on carbon.
NEARLY eighty per cent of Australians support getting to net zero by 2050 — and most support the reintroduction of a carbon tax to get there.
The surprising findings come from the Lowy Institute’s annual snapshot of Australian attitudes towards climate change, regarded as one of the most in-depth and long-range tracking studies in this area.
If only labor had the nads to promise it.
Meanwhile all the lies about renewables needing more subsidies are just that. Lies. It’s organized crime.
Fossil Fuel Fiesta: Australia's coal and gas giants get more in subsidies than they pay in royalties - Michael West
Australia’s fossil fuel miners and drillers may be receiving more in government subsidies than they pay in royalties, new research has found.
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Australian court finds government has duty to protect young people from climate crisis
The federal court of Australia has found the environment minister, Sussan Ley, has a duty of care to protect young people from the climate crisis in a judgment hailed by lawyers and teenagers who brought the case as a world first.
Eight teenagers and an octogenarian nun had sought an injunction to prevent Ley approving a proposal by Whitehaven Coal to expand the Vickery coalmine in northern New South Wales, arguing the minister had a common law duty of care to protect younger people against future harm from climate change.
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The federal court of Australia has found the environment minister, Sussan Ley, has a duty of care to protect young people from the climate crisis in a judgment hailed by lawyers and teenagers who brought the case as a world first.
Eight teenagers and an octogenarian nun had sought an injunction to prevent Ley approving a proposal by Whitehaven Coal to expand the Vickery coalmine in northern New South Wales, arguing the minister had a common law duty of care to protect younger people against future harm from climate change.
Australian court finds government has duty to protect young people from climate crisis
Eight teenagers, along with 86-year-old nun, launched case to prevent the approval of a massive coalmine
Australian court finds government has duty to protect young people from climate crisis
The federal court of Australia has found the environment minister, Sussan Ley, has a duty of care to protect young people from the climate crisis in a judgment hailed by lawyers and teenagers who brought the case as a world first.
Eight teenagers and an octogenarian nun had sought an injunction to prevent Ley approving a proposal by Whitehaven Coal to expand the Vickery coalmine in northern New South Wales, arguing the minister had a common law duty of care to protect younger people against future harm from climate change.
Australian court finds government has duty to protect young people from climate crisis
Eight teenagers, along with 86-year-old nun, launched case to prevent the approval of a massive coalmine
Interesting to see how this is shifting into the courts everywhere:
Court orders Royal Dutch Shell to cut carbon emissions by 45% by 2030
Oil giant told plans should be brought into line with Paris climate agreement
And in germany too.Interesting to see how this is shifting into the courts everywhere:
Court orders Royal Dutch Shell to cut carbon emissions by 45% by 2030
Oil giant told plans should be brought into line with Paris climate agreement
guess they cant quote “published papers” from geologists or physicists or aircraft engineers claimg mmcc is a hoax in courtrooms - they need to find qualified credentialed climate scientists - and none of those seem to make it to a courtroom - despite the fact that the right wingers on here reckon theres no consensus….
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Government ordered by court to do it's actual job.Australian court finds government has duty to protect young people from climate crisis
The federal court of Australia has found the environment minister, Sussan Ley, has a duty of care to protect young people from the climate crisis in a judgment hailed by lawyers and teenagers who brought the case as a world first.
Eight teenagers and an octogenarian nun had sought an injunction to prevent Ley approving a proposal by Whitehaven Coal to expand the Vickery coalmine in northern New South Wales, arguing the minister had a common law duty of care to protect younger people against future harm from climate change.
Australian court finds government has duty to protect young people from climate crisis
Eight teenagers, along with 86-year-old nun, launched case to prevent the approval of a massive coalmine
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Tesla Powerpack battery steps in after coal plant explodes in Australia
On Tuesday, an explosion at the Callide Power Station, a coal-fired power plant in central Queensland, Australia, resulted in mass power outages from the New South Wales (NSW) border to Cairns. More than 470,000 customers were affected, particularly as the explosion caused a cascading impact on...
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Anybody seen this?
Tesla’s battery in South Australia helped put the lights back on in Queensland because coal is s**t.
I believe the sun wasn’t even out anymore
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You could tell the battery was a hit as soon as that closet case Marshall started spouting this s**t, which it has to be pointed out he flipped on almost as soon as he said it.Tesla Powerpack battery steps in after coal plant explodes in Australia
On Tuesday, an explosion at the Callide Power Station, a coal-fired power plant in central Queensland, Australia, resulted in mass power outages from the New South Wales (NSW) border to Cairns. More than 470,000 customers were affected, particularly as the explosion caused a cascading impact on...
Anybody seen this?
Tesla’s battery in South Australia helped put the lights back on in Queensland because coal is sh*t.
I believe the sun wasn’t even out anymore
Marshall’s first promise as SA premier: Kill Tesla battery plan
New SA Premier Steven Marshall vows to scrap Tesla’s plans for world’s biggest virtual power plant targeting low income households, in favour of a $100 million subsidy for those homes a…
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