Time to bring in Bucks and a new board

[daics cousin]

After the Ben Cousins fiasco,i am now convinced i will not see another premiership while Malthouse and the current board are in place.

We have been using the poor excuse of rebuilding as our way out of lying to all our supporters and members of our once great club.
Just to remind afew out there ,collingwood have been in a rebuilding since the Tony Shaw days.So say since the early ninties and so since then no success at the ultimate prize..

Collingwood as a brand name has only grown by the by gone days of when we were a powerhouse.
We became a feared and respected club and our supporter base just grew because we had the reputation of creaming sides,not getting creamed like thesedays.In the by gone era we had star players clammering to wear the jumper,thesedays star players run the other way,and even when the odd one may consider playing for us,some one or something within the club,upset the apple cart.

Gary Pert's inclusion as our CEO has been a disaster since Eddie appointed him.His backgound is advertising as he is just a yes man for Eddie.Eddie always looks after his mate,but this appointment has backfired.
Eugene Arocca who lived and breathed collingwood should have been appointed CEO.A very good legal eagle his appointment would have served us better than Pert.
Also what about Swann.A ruthless administrative manager,he was perfect for us.The thing is a about swann is that if he awnts to get his man he'll do it.Remember therew are no friends in business you either get the deal or you don't.Look what swann has done for the scum,in such a short time.We need administrators like him.

So i say to all who want to listen, time for the changing of the guard,buckley to coach and time for a new group of administrators to take over the board.If Collingwood don't act then,we will be a big brand name,only though known as the whipping boys of the AFL.

Malthouse and Eddie have had ample time to deliver results.
They have delivered results except that are not successful results.

 

[Nardz]

you want buckley in because we didn't get cousins, yet buckley was fairly vocal about his opinion that we shouldn't get Cousins..

 

[daics cousin]

you want buckley in because we didn't get cousins, yet buckley was fairly vocal about his opinion that we shouldn't get Cousins..

Hey NARDZ I want Buckley to coach not play !
Buckley was the modern elite footballer,and he will become the modern elite coach one day.He will surpass all competitors he has a great footy brain and he would instigate game plan changes moreso than malthouse.
Malthouse's days are nearly over.
I suppose we could keep malty for one more year of mediocre success,then Buckley must come in.New footy side,of young players plus new younger coach makes sense ?

 

[Ant85]

you want buckley in because we didn't get cousins, yet buckley was fairly vocal about his opinion that we shouldn't get Cousins..

But there is a great difference between Buckley's opposition to Cousins and the board's decision.

Buckley's opinion of Cousins was football oriented.

The board's decision on Cousins was business-driven.

That is the core issue we're confronting here. I want decisions concerning our onfield matters made from an onfield focus, not a business focus. We are becoming our own obstacle to success. Despite nearly 10 years of Eddie, we still haven't got a clear direction.

Do we want a big brand? Or do we want a premiership?

Theoretically, we should be pursuing both, but we have yet found the right balance. Eddie is not producing the right balance.

Buckley has advocated the separation of business and football interests at Collingwood by telling Eddie to butt out of the Shaw/Didak saga.

It just so happened that on this occasion their opinions coincided, but rest assured their interests remain divergent.

I am without doubt that Nathan Buckley sincerely and genuinely wants the best for the Collingwood Football Club (i.e. ensuring nothing impedes our onfield performance). It's people like him that we need at the club.

 

[favourites]

I agree, after reading bucks book i am in no doubt that he should be groomed to take over next year. (2010)

 

[Nardz]

Hey NARDZ I want Buckley to coach not play !
Buckley was the modern elite footballer,and he will become the modern elite coach one day.He will surpass all competitors he has a great footy brain and he would instigate game plan changes moreso than malthouse.
Malthouse's days are nearly over.
I suppose we could keep malty for one more year of mediocre success,then Buckley must come in.New footy side,of young players plus new younger coach makes sense ?

i didn't say anything about buckley playing??

i'm just raising the point that if your need to get rid of malthouse is triggered by not getting cousins then buckley wouldn't be a good replacement - we still would not have gotten cousins.

I think buckley will make a great coach, and i hope that he does end up at collingwood. You do however have to prepare yourself for the likelihood that this may not ever happen.

He has another year to run on his contract in the media, and after that he's going to want to do some sort of apprenticeship before starting senior coaching. So if he does a 1 year apprenticeship that means he'll start coaching in 2011.

if you want to get rid of malthouse now (end of 09), No coach in their right mind will sign for anything less than a 3 year deal knowing that Buckley waiting in the wings.

 

[Ant85]

Has anyone ever thought that maybe Eddie doesn't want Buckley as coach?

Eddie doesn't normally tolerate dissent, and Buckley isn't the kind to be a "yes-man".

 

[Nardz]

Buckley's opinion of Cousins was football oriented.

The board's decision on Cousins was business-driven.

I really don't see how you've come to this conclusion. Buckley's opinion on the Cousins issue was for exactly the same reasons as the board's decisions. They have both recognised the risk of bringing in a celebrated player with publicly acknowledged drug issues, and both thought the risk was too great.

if you're willing to criticise the board for this decision you need to also be willing to criticise buckley.

 

[tess]

The current culture evolved while Bucks was Captain, Ed was Pres and MM was coach.

Don't just gloss over that truth.

 

[Nardz]

Has anyone ever thought that maybe Eddie doesn't want Buckley as coach?

Eddie doesn't normally tolerate dissent, and Buckley isn't the kind to be a "yes-man".

give Eddie more credit than that. Eddie loves collingwood and if he thought buckley was the man to bring success then he would be working on bringing Buckley would be in, when the time is right of course..

 

[Ant85]

The current culture evolved while Bucks was Captain, Ed was Pres and MM was coach.

Don't just gloss over that truth.

Is there anyone at Collingwood you like?

 

[Ant85]

I really don't see how you've come to this conclusion. Buckley's opinion on the Cousins issue was for exactly the same reasons as the board's decisions. They have both recognised the risk of bringing in a celebrated player with publicly acknowledged drug issues, and both thought the risk was too great.

if you're willing to criticise the board for this decision you need to also be willing to criticise buckley.

Read the other Cousins-related threads. I've explained my position re the Board's decision there.

 

[tess]

What I named three people that have overseen our Club for pretty much 10 years.....

THREE ~ thats 3 ~ People!

 

[Optimax]

Has anyone ever thought that maybe Eddie doesn't want Buckley as coach?

Eddie doesn't normally tolerate dissent, and Buckley isn't the kind to be a "yes-man".

no reading bucks book and the comments from eddie through out you couldnt of made yourself look like more of a moron.

Eddie wants whats best for collingwood and he belives buckley will be our coach eventually

 

[Ant85]

Optimax,

I understand you're quite a highly charged individual.

Tess,

And your dislike of Buckley is based on what?

 

[favourites]

What I named three people that have overseen our Club for pretty much 10 years.....

THREE ~ thats 3 ~ People!

Have u read bucks book.

If so tell me if you still think he would stop at anything to get us a flag.

 

[tess]

He has also said he doesn't want to Coach, or don't his wishes matter when the masses insist he must.

 

[jerry springer]

I said it then and I said it now.The dumbest thing we did was give MM a contract extension when he only had a year to go on his contract.It was a stupid move by eddie and the board

Its going to be great this year seeing how he coaches knowing that this could be his final contract.A bit more ruthless,daring,and maybe not play his favourites quite as much

 

[Rohan Coventry]

Alledgely Buckley won't return to the club until McGuire is gone.

 

[didaka]

I would rather Burnsy coach. Probably because I'd have a good chance of getting in the coaches box. I'm selfish.

 

[Jabso]

Optimax,

I understand you're quite a highly charged individual.

Tess,

And your dislike of Buckley is based on what?

I totally disagree with most of what Tess says, but I have to hand it to her she is consistent and doesn't discriminate. Unlike Daics' cousin who backpedalled when he realised Buckley was against getting Cousins too, at least Tess has the guts to be strong and consistent in her beliefs.

 

[Kirby]

After the Ben Cousins fiasco,i am now convinced i will not see another premiership while Malthouse and the current board are in place.

So, the decision is a "fiasco" now? Why? Because you're not happy with it?

Gary Pert's inclusion as our CEO has been a disaster since Eddie appointed him.His backgound is advertising as he is just a yes man for Eddie.Eddie always looks after his mate,but this appointment has backfired.
Eugene Arocca who lived and breathed collingwood should have been appointed CEO.A very good legal eagle his appointment would have served us better than Pert.
Also what about Swann.A ruthless administrative manager,he was perfect for us.The thing is a about swann is that if he awnts to get his man he'll do it.Remember therew are no friends in business you either get the deal or you don't.Look what swann has done for the scum,in such a short time.We need administrators like him.

Please tell me why Pert has been a disaster? Please state your reasons because I am very interested to read them. If you are referring to the Beach Hotel stuff up then you might want to consider your position as you should realise that the architects behind the acquisition of the leasehold for that hotel where none other than your favourites Swann and Arocca. Yep, it was their decision which has wiped 4.5 million dollars off the balance sheet. Pert was merely the person who inherited the mess and had to make the decision to cut the club's losses.

 

[Chase the Ace]

I want daicos cousin to stand for a position on the board and run against Eddie.

It would be pretty to watch

 

[Optimax]

Alledgely Buckley won't return to the club until McGuire is gone.

just like the didak and pick 11 deal to sydney for o'keefe Rohan?

stop making things up

 

[Buckyg75]

I find it hard to believe Bucks wont end up coaching at Collingwood. He has been our favourite son for a long time and I've no doubt he'll end up overall, being the club's 'Greatest Ever Son'.

I think he'll do his one more year in the media and then join Collingwood in more of a coaching role. I though expect he'll be an assistance coach elsewhere before he takes the Pies to the top. Don't expect him to head up the great club again for a few years yet.

Bucks will not rest until he has that Premiership for the Pies.

And another thing, he'll never run into a tree whilst running a marathon.