TIME TO COMPLAIN RE THE UMPIRING

[Catastic82]

Blame the umps cause it is easier then blaming Steven Motlop for his point blank miss which would have won you the game probably.... Damn umpires using their tricks to make the ball curve in the air and hit the post hey

Blame Steven for that errant handball to Hawkins too that completely missed the mark and would have led to at least a shot at goal from big Tom.

Nah lets blame the umpires while conveniently forgetting all the times they gave bad decisions in your favour too. Makes sense.

While you are at it blame the umpires for keeping Dangerfield off for so long in that last quarter, heck you blame everything else on them

Troll 0.5/10

No one blaming the umpires fit the loss of the game, we are however questioning some of the baffling decisions made.

So why don't you quietly **** off back to your board if you're going to try and stir us up?

 

[Biggy_Boy]

St Kilda got some unfair calls against them as well which could have resulted in goals. Went both ways tonight but as per usual, Geelong fans using the umps as the excuse to the loss tonight.

And all the bad umpiring calls would be rendered irrelevant if Menzel had just gone back 20m straight in front and slotted his goal. Shouldn't be hard. No need to play on.

 

[Willo_]

Blame the umps cause it is easier then blaming Steven Motlop for his point blank miss which would have won you the game probably.... Damn umpires using their tricks to make the ball curve in the air and hit the post hey

Blame Steven for that errant handball to Hawkins too that completely missed the mark and would have led to at least a shot at goal from big Tom.

Nah lets blame the umpires while conveniently forgetting all the times they gave bad decisions in your favour too. Makes sense.

While you are at it blame the umpires for keeping Dangerfield off for so long in that last quarter, heck you blame everything else on them

Blame them for 2009?

 

[NathanMX]

Blame them for 2009?

I remember Toms goal that hit the post yes, but unless an umpire blatantly cheats I aint gonna complain. The better team won in 2009 no doubt and regardless of umpire incompetence, or in some of the posters thoughts, outright corruption, the better team usually wins. And the better team did tonight..

But to the OP if you wanna do something about the umpiring then it is easy, sign up to become one. Then go and show us all how easy this caper is. To chase around 44 super fit men, in most cases younger then you and not make a single error, EVER.

 

[Catastic82]

I remember Toms goal that hit the post yes, but unless an umpire blatantly cheats I aint gonna complain. The better team won in 2009 no doubt and regardless of umpire incompetence, or in some of the posters thoughts, outright corruption, the better team usually wins. And the better team did tonight..

But to the OP if you wanna do something about the umpiring then it is easy, sign up to become one. Then go and show us all how easy this caper is. To chase around 44 super fit men, in most cases younger then you and not make a single error, EVER.

Cool story

You can critize the players performances but not the umpires?

Never understood that logic

 

[Hoooops]

But to the OP if you wanna do something about the umpiring then it is easy, sign up to become one. Then go and show us all how easy this caper is. To chase around 44 super fit men, in most cases younger then you and not make a single error, EVER.

No one is criticising the umpires for making mistakes. It's just interesting that almost all of these "mistakes" favoured you and not us.

 

[Boxhead_31]

after having time to calm down and think back, that was the one that bothered me the most.

For me it was the Steven taking on the tackle, holding the ball then not disposing of it that allowed their first goal.
That and the Hawkins non mark. How can it be an unrealistic attempt when the bloke takes the mark?

 

[NathanMX]

Cool story

You can critize the players performances but not the umpires?

Never understood that logic

Criticism is ok. Yet some stoop to Brad Scott levels and complain like umpiring is the easiest job in the world or something. Funny though how the whinging only starts when your team loses isnt it? In 2007 the free kick count was Geelong 28, Port Power 25. Bet there were a few dubious decisions in all those free kicks yet guess it only hurts when you lose yes?

No one is criticising the umpires for making mistakes. It's just interesting that almost all of these "mistakes" favoured you and not us.

Which "mistakes"? The free kick count tonight was 16-15 in our favour. Seems to me that when the ladder leaders play bottom dwellers that more often then not you should win. The better team on the night won.

How about Motlops blank point miss? Why cant you blame losing on that mistake? Or his errant handball that missed Hawkins?

 

[hoopla]

The neutrals are all saying we got the umpire favouritism tonight. Whaaaaaaaat..?

Neutrals...i.e. Hawks fans

 

[Turbocat]

Although the umpiring had an effect..we need to look at our own contribution to this result. Too easy to just hang it on the umpiring , we have been so "its us not them" till now.. Was it the umpiring that made Menzel handpass the ball? What about Mots nightmare of a night? Plenty to question ourselves about. Why have we struggled to cope with extreme in your face pressure? Is it just that we still have a few too many low game tally players?

 

[mad-saint-guy]

No one is criticising the umpires for making mistakes. It's just interesting that almost all of these "mistakes" favoured you and not us.

Paddy McCartin getting his nose rearranged while going for a mark? Play on
McCartin nudges opponent in the side and marks in front of goal? Free kick Geelong
Hawkins makes similar contact except in the back? Play on
Webster almost has head ripped off while picking up the footy? Play on

The Guthrie HTB was a terrible decision and there was a throw that led to one of our first goals.

The Hawkins 'in the back' free was correct; you can't push someone in the back of the head before you go for a mark. As was the play on call when he and Roberton tangled legs and Hawkins fell over.

 

[SkittleCats]

I just want someone to concisely explain what holding the ball is now?

Because im pretty sure you'd have a harder time explaining that than Britain is gonna have negotiating there way out of the EU.

 

[Pumpernickel]

It's absolutely embarrassing to think that we see a need for a thread like this.

Blame players, planning, coaching, form, fixture, talent before blaming the the easy targets. We have to be better than that, relying on a handful of decision should not be something we rely on to be in winning positions in footy games.

We weren't up to it in the first half and were made to look second rate. Looked better after half time but if we are any good we need 4qtrs of good footy. The Saints wanted it more and deserved to win. We only have ourselves to blame.

 

[hoopla]

I remember Toms goal that hit the post yes, but unless an umpire blatantly cheats I aint gonna complain. The better team won in 2009 no doubt and regardless of umpire incompetence, or in some of the posters thoughts, outright corruption, the better team usually wins. And the better team did tonight..

But to the OP if you wanna do something about the umpiring then it is easy, sign up to become one. Then go and show us all how easy this caper is. To chase around 44 super fit men, in most cases younger then you and not make a single error, EVER.

Dude...if you had been watching most cats games you would understand some of the frustration. It's not that the saints didn't deserve to win tonight at all, it's just that we are consistently on the wrong end of bad umpiring this year. Hopefully it'll even up for the rest of the season.

 

[Hoooops]

Which "mistakes"? The free kick count tonight was 16-15 in our favour. Seems to me that when the ladder leaders play bottom dwellers that more often then not you should win. The better team on the night won.

The umpires do not exist to distribute free kicks equally, they are paid to give them according to the rules. Please explain how the free kick count is relevant.

How about Motlops blank point miss? Why cant you blame losing on that mistake? Or his errant handball that missed Hawkins?

Or I can multitask and blame multiple things at once. I'm really not blaming it entirely on the umpires.

Neutrals...i.e. Hawks fans

True.

I just want someone to concisely explain what holding the ball is now?

The official AFL rulebook hereby states that anyone tackled by a Geelong player cannot have a free kick paid against them for holding the ball.

 

[NathanMX]

Dude...if you had been watching most cats games you would understand some of the frustration. It's not that the saints didn't deserve to win tonight at all, it's just that we are consistently on the wrong end of bad umpiring this year. Hopefully it'll even up for the rest of the season.

Watched you smash North and Adelaide, saw the Dangerfield show against the Hawks and think the Port one where you were down early was the other game I saw of yours so obviously not in the same position you are who would not have missed many if any games. But you are in the position you are in the top 4 because you are one of the best teams and I think the best teams can overcome almost anything so if you are good enough, and you have proven you are, then you will go a long way this season

And trust me, teams that rely on umpiring go nowhere nor do bad teams somehow fluke top 4 positions so best of luck for the rest of the season

 

[hoopla]

Paddy McCartin getting his nose rearranged while going for a mark? Play on
McCartin nudges opponent in the side and marks in front of goal? Free kick Geelong
Hawkins makes similar contact except in the back? Play on
Webster almost has head ripped off while picking up the footy? Play on

The Guthrie HTB was a terrible decision and there was a throw that led to one of our first goals.

The Hawkins 'in the back' free was correct; you can't push someone in the back of the head before you go for a mark. As was the play on call when he and Roberton tangled legs and Hawkins fell over.

Huh...I'll go a bit further...I don't think the cats should have received any frees...they were all wrong. [emoji57]

 

[SkittleCats]

The official AFL rulebook hereby states that anyone tackled by a Geelong player cannot have a free kick paid against them for holding the ball.

Ah i thought it must be something like that now. Also it should be pointed out that it seems a new rule has been quietly deployed by the AFL. That being if Tom Hawkins gets within 10 meters of the ball it should immediately and without hesitation be a free kick to the opposition.

 

[NathanMX]

The umpires do not exist to distribute free kicks equally, they are paid to give them according to the rules. Please explain how the free kick count is relevant.

I would, but still waiting on you to mention those "mistakes" whilst simultaneously neglecting to acknowledge that bad calls were made against both sides. Or do you consider someone getting slapped in the face not to be a free kick these days?

 

[Hoooops]

Paddy McCartin getting his nose rearranged while going for a mark? Play on
McCartin nudges opponent in the side and marks in front of goal? Free kick Geelong
Hawkins makes similar contact except in the back? Play on
Webster almost has head ripped off while picking up the footy? Play on

The Guthrie HTB was a terrible decision and there was a throw that led to one of our first goals.

The Hawkins 'in the back' free was correct; you can't push someone in the back of the head before you go for a mark. As was the play on call when he and Roberton tangled legs and Hawkins fell over.

So three or four arguably poor decisions..? At one point in the second half, about four Saints players got caught holding the ball within 30 seconds of each other, with not one free kick paid. And that's not including the other 79 and a half minutes...

 

[Hoooops]

I would, but still waiting on you to mention those "mistakes" whilst simultaneously neglecting to acknowledge that bad calls were made against both sides.

It's just interesting that almost all of these "mistakes" favoured you and not us.

 

[hoopla]

Watched you smash North and Adelaide, saw the Dangerfield show against the Hawks and think the Port one where you were down early was the other game I saw of yours so obviously not in the same position you are who would not have missed many if any games. But you are in the position you are in the top 4 because you are one of the best teams and I think the best teams can overcome almost anything so if you are good enough, and you have proven you are, then you will go a long way this season

And trust me, teams that rely on umpiring go nowhere nor do bad teams somehow fluke top 4 positions so best of luck for the rest of the season

We were crucified by umpiring in a few of those big wins but I agree that good teams shouldn't need to rely on umpiring. You must admit that some of the good teams do get more assistance than others.

 

[InnocentBystandr]

Note: The following is humour*

I think the umpires targeted the wrong Scott brother

*In case anyone thought I was attributing tonight's loss on some less-than-ideal umpiring decisions

 

[NathanMX]

We were crucified by umpiring in a few of those big wins but I agree that good teams shouldn't need to rely on umpiring. You must admit that some of the good teams do get more assistance than others.

Cannot say, I dont watch many other teams unless it is gonna be a bloodbath or classic, and we are not yet good enough to find out if we can get some of that same assistance

 

[InnocentBystandr]

We were crucified by umpiring in a few of those big wins but I agree that good teams shouldn't need to rely on umpiring. You must admit that some of the good teams do get more assistance than others.

Who could you possibly mean?