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[Moonwatcher]

Then it goes to mediation with the AFL and Sydney's reputation as being a fair trader is severely dented.

Do Sydney have a good reputation as traders? I know whenever Adelaide have dealt with Sydney , Adelaide has been very fair and balanced. However this is the first trade that gives Sydney the opportunity to show their character as traders.

 

[amer]

The sense you get is that Tippett was gone at the end of 2009 if not for whatever this contractual term is. We were close to the summit and Kurt was a big part of that, and we had visions of declaring it a necessary evil to net Adelaide its by-then-won third premiership. A masterstroke in the making.

Deary me Adelaide.

 

[Jars458]

Stop jumping at shadows people. Its 50 shades of Kurt Tippett. Plenty of water to go under the bridge yet.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

GWS get pick 12 for Tom Lee
Collingwood get pick 17 for Wellingham
Gold Coast get a top 15 pick for Caddy
I bet you Port will get a top 25 pick for Jacobs


Yet we will get shafted by Sydney for a key forward who is going to get a $1,000,000 a year.

Get bent

 

[Dandy_GO]

I think I'm gonna try harder to ignore this nonsense until it's finished.
It's very easy to get drawn in. Today's Harper interview was very deflating - especially after Trigg sent a very strong, encouraging message a week ago. What we've heard from Noble and Harper is almost the complete opposite of what Trigg said.
Something is not at all right about this trade. I can't say I'm looking forward to the outcome, as I can't find the optimism required for such a statement, but I'll be glad when it's over.

 

[FR0GGY]

Stop jumping at shadows people. Its 50 shades of Kurt Tippett. Plenty of water to go under the bridge yet.

If my wife reads it what will i get out of it?

 

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Despite reports to the contrary, Ireland also categorically denied father-son pick Tom Mitchell may be used in the trade with the Crows to land Tippett.

"Tom's name has never been raised by us and will never be raised by us," Ireland said.

"He's a father-son who we think will be important in our midfield in the future and he would never be part of the trade."

There has been increasing speculation that one of the Swans' 2012 premiership players might be on the trade table, but Ireland moved some way to rejecting that theory.

"I can't guarantee it. [But] I don't think it'll happen and we're hopeful it won't happen," he said.

Some carefully chosen words there from Ireland.

"Tom's name has never been raised by us..." Well it doesn't need to be raised by you.

"...he would never be part of the trade." Doesn't necessarily mean he wouldn't be a part of another trade, say to GWS for pick 3, which they then on trade to us for Tippett.

We all remember Nathan Bock's "I want to be a one club player..." line don't we.

The art of spin is making the first part of a statement so convincing that no one believes that there's a "but" which you've neglected to mention, so that you can come back later and say "well actually it was Adelaide who brought it up and technically it wasn't a part of the trade for Tippett"

Chances are Mitchell probably won't be part of the trade, but I think people have got to be very careful taking what club officials say at face value and especially in the middle of tradeweek whilst they're negotiating deals. They're not going to reveal strategies, they're not going to say something that may affect the negotiations.

 

[NikkiNoo]

Do Sydney have a good reputation as traders? I know whenever Adelaide have dealt with Sydney , Adelaide has been very fair and balanced. However this is the first trade that gives Sydney the opportunity to show their character as traders.

They came out at when Kurt announced his attention and they said they were 'fair traders'. The ball is in their court if they live up to their own reputation or not.

 

[FullyBigKPro]

Whats with all this gushing and fawning over Sydney's supposed 'fair trading' as if they are the alter boys of the AFL and linear descendants of Mother Theresa?

They are just as ruthless as any other team and generally get their way because other teams seem to treat them with a naive innocence.

Cmon, lets play hard ball and get the best we can whoever it may be.

By the way, have trade talks progressed past a cup of coffee? Hopefully things escalate top lunch or even adult drinks tomorrow....

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

I think I'm gonna try harder to ignore this nonsense until it's finished.
It's very easy to get drawn in. Today's Harper interview was very deflating - especially after Trigg sent a very strong, encouraging message a week ago. What we've heard from Noble and Harper is almost the complete opposite of what Trigg said.
Something is not at all right about this trade. I can't say I'm looking forward to the outcome, as I can't find the optimism required for such a statement, but I'll be glad when it's over.

Yep, I agree.

Thank god I'm back to work on Monday and I don't have time to waste reading big footy.

 

[Magma]

Whats with all this gushing and fawning over Sydney's supposed 'fair trading' as if they are the alter boys of the AFL and linear descendants of Mother Theresa?

They are just as ruthless as any other team and generally get their way because other teams seem to treat them with a naive innocence.

Cmon, lets play hard ball and get the best we can whoever it may be.

By the way, have trade talks progressed past a cup of coffee? Hopefully things escalate top lunch or even adult drinks tomorrow....

i heard they're having a pleasant brunch tomorrow

 

[Membling]

i heard they're having a pleasant brunch tomorrow

I think they're angling for a movie and dinner next Wednesday.

 

[huludicidal]

If my wife reads it what will i get out of it?

If Kurt wrote it there's gotta be a whole chapter on anal surely.

 

[BamBam10]

It really sucks for you guys sounds like Sydney are being real pricks right now, but I reckon they'll come round they clearly want him. I can see someone like a Rohan or Parker let go, perhaps not necessarily to you guys but perhaps for a better pick than their 22.

If it was to get to the end of next week and no ground had been made and it didn't look like it would, the only way I could see you guys getting either us or GC involved is whether the AFC would be willing to pay some of his salary. We have started to move on with the Moloney deal and Kerr said there were more to come, as well as GC have been linked to a few guys.

Guess what I'm trying to say is your recruitment guys may have to weigh up is a package of say a pick 8 or a Gorringe & something, but having to pay some of Kurt's salary better than say a pick 22 and a fringe player.

P.S I have no idea of what Adelaide's salary cap is like at the moment so guess that would obviously be a consideration as well.

Sorry to intrude. Carry on guys and good luck!

 

[feenix67]

If Kurt wrote it there's gotta be a whole chapter on anal surely.

/thread

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Do Sydney have a good reputation as traders? I know whenever Adelaide have dealt with Sydney , Adelaide has been very fair and balanced. However this is the first trade that gives Sydney the opportunity to show their character as traders.

We could of gotten Mumford for free in the PSD but gave Geelong pick 28, we let a contracted ruckman in his prime go home for 14 and 46, we gave Essendon pick 19 for Ted Richards which the supporters went crazy about

All part of the negotiations guys whats said infront of reporters doesn't necessarily mean the same thing is happening behind the scenes

 

[FullyBigKPro]

Would love somehow to orchestrate a deal with the Doggies...

Their forward line is a hopeless rabble full of more spuds than the McCain's factory.

Pick 5 + Howard < Tippett + pick 19

Cat. Amongst. Pigeons.

 

[Magma]

If Kurt wrote it there's gotta be a whole chapter on anal surely.

i think we're done here

 

[BACCS]

Man, I've never seen so many posters, and even the respectable ones on this board, panic over a trade that we know absolutely nothing about. Noble said he was positive about todays talks, and so did Ireland, but then people draw the conclusion that this means we are going to get bent over? Seriously, wtf. That is like adding 2 and 2 together and getting a million.

 

[Iva Bigun]

Just listened to Ireland on Trade Radio and it was the weirdest thing. His points were.

-Breakthrough made today
-Doesn't wanna trade a Premiership player
-Won't trade Mitchell
-Doesn't wanna trade a promising youngster
-Looking forward to using their picks in the draft.

Made absolutley no sense. How are they gonna get a trade done? Even Terry Wallet had a laugh at him...

Probably looking to upgrade the 22 pick for 21 thinking that will surely satisfy

 

[Geoffa32]

Just listened to Ireland on Trade Radio and it was the weirdest thing. His points were.

-Breakthrough made today
-Doesn't wanna trade a Premiership player
-Won't trade Mitchell
-Doesn't wanna trade a promising youngster
-Looking forward to using their picks in the draft.

Made absolutley no sense. How are they gonna get a trade done? Even Terry Wallet had a laugh at him...

Melbourne are giving them pick four for Jesse White, Then we get that?

He and Dawes are on par IMO.

 

[Geoffa32]

Man, I've never seen so many posters, and even the respectable ones on this board, panic over a trade that we know absolutely nothing about. Noble said he was positive about todays talks, and so did Ireland, but then people draw the conclusion that this means we are going to get bent over? Seriously, wtf. That is like adding 2 and 2 together and getting a million.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

GWS get pick 12 for Tom Lee
Collingwood get pick 17 for Wellingham
Gold Coast get a top 15 pick for Caddy
I bet you Port will get a top 25 pick for Jacobs


Yet we will get shafted by Sydney for a key forward who is going to get a $1,000,000 a year.

Get bent

So you speak like you know the outcome, when you clearly have NFI!

 

[Boundryump]

The crows should just piss him off for whatever we get and move on from this distracting knob of a person, did he do Sydney a favour in the final against them.....you bet!

 

[BACCS]

Also, unless some of you are sitting on in the negotiations and have heard the entire conversations between the clubs, you know jackshit about what we have or have not threatened etc. You are bagging the club on your own pure speculation and some wild conclusion from comments made today. I'm sorry, but that is pathetic, and a lot of you will be doing 360 turns when this is over. No club in the AFL would reveal details like that when talking to the media during negotiations, otherwise it would just create even more unsubstantiated rumours.

I trust FAITH in what he has said, and I haven't read anything that says this trade won't work out for both parties. Like he has repeated many times also, be ****ing patient!!