Tippett's Gone - READ RULES BEFORE POSTING

[Elite Crow]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/mor...urt-tippett-open/story-e6frf9jf-1226486840084

WTF Noble, way to go in all guns blazing Or is this a softening so we accept being bent over as per AFGM ramblings.

My understating is GWS can pick him up in the PSD if we agree.

 

[earlsta]

Guys settle down! This could be a blessing in disguise just like how we managed to get Crouch.
We could add Toumpas to our list next year. We needed mids over the last few years, we've got them in spades now. Mids win flags!

Take Sydney for example, I think Sando will now be restructuring our game style due to Tippett leaving, we were always a little too predictable when rebounding from our back 50, especially when a point had been kicked.

This will be good trust me, he is overrated yes he's a good player but he's not worth 800k.
Toumpas! Get him, get him now!

 

[Elite Crow]

Guys settle down! This could be a blessing in disguise just like how we managed to get Crouch.
We could add Toumpas to our list next year. We needed mids over the last few years, we've got them in spades now. Mids win flags!

Take Sydney for example, I think Sando will now be restructuring our game style due to Tippett leaving, we were always a little too predictable when rebounding from our back 50, especially when a point had been kicked.

This will be good trust me, he is overrated yes he's a good player but he's not worth 800k.
Toumpas! Get him, get him now!

How how how

 

[Vader]

McKernan would be very surprising, but I think you're underestimating Jenkins. I think he'll become bloody good if we give him a regular spot. Tippett's first season in the AFL was no better than Jenkins was IMO. Needs to work very hard on his rucking over the pre-season though.

I think Jenkins will be good - but we're talking a player in the same league as Ken McGregor, not Tippett. Tippett is the 3rd best KPP Adelaide has had in 21 years in the competition. Players of that quality don't grow on trees and Jenkins won't reach that standard. That's not to say that Jenkins won't be good - just saying that he won't be as good as Tippett.

 

[Elite Crow]

Vader youre on top of the rules, can GWS pick him up with our permission?

 

[The Karma Bus]

No.. IS in a different class entirely. 50+ goal per year players do not grow on trees, let alone when they're combined with better than competent ruckmen. Why do you think clubs are reportedly offering him $1M? Most of the people on this board are embittered Adelaide fans, who (rightly) feel hard done by - and thus feel the need to put him down to minimise their sense of loss. In their haste to put him down they fail to understand just how good a player we are losing.

I've said it for a while now, nothing to do with him leaving.. No, he's not in another class entirely..

9 goals from 7 games in the minor round against finalist teams.. 3 of those goals against his favourite playtime friend Schoenmakers.. Disappears far too often, is inconsistent, fails against better opponents, misses way too many easy goals.. Best thing he offered was structurally and ability to go into the ruck..

 

[Vader]

The only thing i care about is the compensation we'll get. If this was Dangerfield, i'd be bawling my eyes out & making a huge fuss, but since its some overrated hack whose not even worth half the money being proposed, i couldn't care less.

Which says an awful lot about your ability to judge footy players and nothing at all about Tippett. The fact that there are at least 6 clubs vying for his services (including Adelaide), all of whom are allegedly putting massive money on the table, says that you're flat out wrong.

 

[Bicks]

We have to come out in front if they want him that badly. They hold no bargaining power at all. Basically he's going to GC.

Think again brother, it could end up being us with no bargaining power...

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/mor...urt-tippett-open/story-e6frf9jf-1226486840084

KURT Tippett can walk to Gold Coast for free.
This is the frightening end to the Tippett saga the Adelaide Football Club is facing with the defection of the 25-year-old Queenslander.
The six-club chase for Tippett's signature last night narrowed to just two - Sydney, with a $1 million-a-year deal to Tippett, and the Suns.
Collingwood's bold bid to find two first-round draft picks - one with the trading of forward Chris Dawes to Melbourne - yesterday became too complicated for the Magpies, particularly when the Swans put its million-dollar deal to Tippett, 25.
Collingwood's white flag was followed by the Magpies bidding for West Coast free agent Quinten Lynch.
Tippett's exit from Adelaide plays to these themes:
TIPPETT must agree to join the club that satisfies Adelaide in a deal. Trade talks open in Melbourne on Monday.
IF Tippett does not sanction the trade, he can nominate for the pre-season draft on December 11. Greater Western Sydney has the first pick, but cannot claim Tippett because it already has poached an uncontracted Crow Phil Davis last year. Gold Coast has the second pick.

GOLD COAST needs to lift its monetary offers to stop Tippett choosing the Swans.
Adelaide's asking price from the Suns could be any of SA trio Daniel Gorringe, Sam Day and Seb Tape - and draft picks.
But the Crows could finish empty handed if trade month closes on October 26 with Tippett not at a new club and nominating for the pre-season draft.
Adelaide list manager David Noble last night acknowledged the risk of being uncompensated by losing Tippett in the pre-season draft - as Port Adelaide famously did with Nick Stevens in 2004.
"That is why we will seek the best possible deal for Kurt," said Noble.
"We have to be comfortable with the trade. We will be listening to whatever offers are put to us. But we do understand Kurt can use the pre-season draft to get to Gold Coast anyway," Noble said.

 

[Dandy_GO]

We need GWS to become active, even if they just threaten to take him.
Given that they'll likely rise up as contenders about the same time as GC do, it could be in their interest to shaft them a little. GC need incentive to get the deal done. If they can get him for free, there is very little reason why they'd trade fairly. The only way we can remove that bargaining chip is for GWS to show intent.
There could be ways that our club could go about promoting such an outcome...

 

[A FEW GOOD MEN]

It can't ....does everyone get sucked in by AFGM's crap ....is everyone that gullible

He said the other day that Tippett would make the announcement face too face.

Do you think Sydney or Carlton would be bothering if there was a pre-existing contract .....hell in the AFL industry there aren't too many secrets.
If a contract existed i'm sure GC would have somehow let it leak ....and there's noway other clubs would currently be involved

Wayno, I know your feeling a bit foolish about all the things you said on the Tippett thread but please quote accurately.

Kurt did not personally inform me that he would tell the AFC of his decision "face to face". Everyone at West Lakes expected him to do this because Kurt and Blucher had stated publicly on a number of occasions that he would inform them of his decision "face to face". The combination of his smart arse surfboard text, followed by his group text to the players show that he is a bald faced liar. He delayed the decision for as long as possible and it is clear to everyone at West Lakes that he has been playing them all year.

The current crap is a poor attempt by Kurt and Blucher to cover their tracks. I would invite Jenny and the others with "contacts at the AFC to find out what they are saying now. Has anyone at Collingwood, Carlton or Sydney came out and said "Yes, we have been meeting with Kurt".

 

[Vader]

Vader youre on top of the rules, can GWS pick him up with our permission?

I can't see any reason why not.. provided they have a vacancy left on their list to use in the PSD - which is no certainty given that they have to shrink the size of their list this year.

 

[The Karma Bus]

I think Jenkins will be good - but we're talking a player in the same league as Ken McGregor, not Tippett. Tippett is the 3rd best KPP Adelaide has had in 21 years in the competition. Players of that quality don't grow on trees and Jenkins won't reach that standard. That's not to say that Jenkins won't be good - just saying that he won't be as good as Tippett.

That says more about how poorly we have recruited KPF's than how good Tippett actually is..

 

[headache1]

I think Jenkins will be good - but we're talking a player in the same league as Ken McGregor, not Tippett. Tippett is the 3rd best KPP Adelaide has had in 21 years in the competition. Players of that quality don't grow on trees and Jenkins won't reach that standard. That's not to say that Jenkins won't be good - just saying that he won't be as good as Tippett.

McGregor I hope not!

I do rate Tippett, but there's just something about watching Jenkins. While certainly different to Tippett (can't seeing him being a contested marking beast for example), like Kurt, he seems to be able to do things that guys his size shouldn't be able to. As cliche as the term is, he has that x-factor about him, and is incredibly athletic for his size. I see him as being somebody who can create a contest in a pack situation, but would probably be better on the lead.

 

[Bicks]

We need GWS to become active, even if they just threaten to take him.
Given that they'll likely rise up as contenders about the same time as GC do, it could be in their interest to shaft them a little. GC need incentive to get the deal done. If they can get him for free, there is very little reason why they'd trade fairly. The only way we can remove that bargaining chip is for GWS to show intent.
There could be ways that our club could go about promoting such an outcome...

Think you need to read this...
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/mor...urt-tippett-open/story-e6frf9jf-1226486840084

 

[Dandy_GO]

I can't see any reason why not.. provided they have a vacancy left on their list to use in the PSD - which is no certainty given that they have to shrink the size of their list this year.

They don't have to decide that until after trade week, however.
While it would be hilarious if they did take him in the PSD, it wouldn't help us one bit. We just need them to say they'd do it, even if, privately, they have no intention of doing so.

 

[The Karma Bus]

Vader youre on top of the rules, can GWS pick him up with our permission?

I am nearly 100% sure I remember reading in the rules regarding GWS/GC that they can't take a player from us through draft etc unless we give our permission.. So I think we can do that..

 

[Elite Crow]

They don't have to decide that until after trade week, however.
While it would be hilarious if they did take him in the PSD, it wouldn't help us one bit. We just need them to say they'd do it, even if, privately, they have no intention of doing so.

Assuming they can, why wouldn't they? Sign him to one year and then trade him the following year. But it's not reassuring when Noble gives the impression we will take what ever we can get.

 

[Vader]

Chill out people, he'll be going to the GCS......His managers just screwing them for every last $$ just like he did with us!! It's a win/win for $Kurt$ and his $manager$...

That's pretty much the way I see it. From my reading/understanding of the situation, GC's financial offer isn't that great so far (Adelaide's was better). His move isn't all about money - it's about family and lifestyle - but there's no reason for him to sign for less than he can get. By bringing Sydney & Collingwood into the picture his management are hoping to wedge GC into increasing their bid (financially), giving Tippett the best of both worlds - a good pay cheque as well as getting him to his desired location.

 

[Dandy_GO]

Think you need to read this...
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/mor...urt-tippett-open/story-e6frf9jf-1226486840084

The relevant line being that "Greater Western Sydney has the first pick, but cannot claim Tippett because it already has poached an uncontracted Crow Phil Davis last year. "
Is that certain? Picking up un-contracted players via the PSD surely falls under different rules to how we lost Bock and Davis?

 

[Elite Crow]

I am nearly 100% sure I remember reading in the rules regarding GWS/GC that they can't take a player from us through draft etc unless we give our permission.. So I think we can do that..

Can you tell Noble!

 

[rodkimble]

I am nearly 100% sure I remember reading in the rules regarding GWS/GC that they can't take a player from us through draft etc unless we give our permission.. So I think we can do that..

Bahaha imagine that...Tippet, thinking he's leaving adelaide for the sunny paradise of the gold coast, only to end up in the thug shithole that is western sydney

 

[Vader]

That says more about how poorly we have recruited KPF's than how good Tippett actually is..

No.. it says how difficult it is to land a good one without access to a top-5 draft pick.

 

[headache1]

You would think Noble would probably know about it.

Perfect example of lack of foresight from the AFL. Expansion teams should have been banned from taking players in the PSD altogether for at least 3 years, not just the following year. These two teams were always going to be at the bottom of the ladder for a few years. That said, the AFL probably knew something like this would happen and don't particularly care, as it helps their new projects.

 

[MRB37]

At least this is all happening in trade month, rather than a mad scramble to get a deal done in a week.

 

[Stiffy_18]

When will people realise that every year big name players in the trade period always bring up Collingwood as a big time player to sign them just so they could pump up the contract offer from somewhere else.

How often have big name players that were reportedly up to their eyeballs with Collingwood have actually gone there. I can't think of one.