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[Vader]

Then why didn't we offer him $1mill a year?

It makes no sense for GWS to implement that strategy. It just wastes time and development of one of their young brigade. They will already have the highest picks etc in next year's draft so trying to grab Tippett only to on trade him for something like that is pointless.

Carlton is the only other club I can see taking the risk because it could bring them closer to a flag but even then Malthouse is not one to take massive risks like this and he hates players who have an all about me attitude. I would also question how much room they would have in their cap or even be able to pay. I dare say they may try and pay the min salary cap over the next few years to help save money and pay their $9mill debt.

Tippett wanted out of Adelaide. Sure, he went chasing the $$$ when he left, but his primary motivation seems to have been getting away from Adelaide. He's a fairly private individual and couldn't stand the goldfish nature of being a key player at Adelaide, having his face plastered across the Advertiser every week - and the loss of privacy that entailed.

Sydney might not be home - and they certainly offered the big $$$ - but they are also able to offer him relative anonymity. He'll be able to go to the shops and the beach, without constantly being harassed by well-meaning supporters. That has to have massive appeal to person like him.

We offered him the big $$$ last time. It got him to stay for another 2 years, but at the end of that time he decided it was time to go, no matter what $$$ the AFC were willing to throw at him.

As for why GWS would do it.. haven't you seen the way they've hoarded the compensation "future" draft picks? Tippett is just another way of giving them future first round picks in next year's draft. The fact that they can have him teaching & guiding their younger kids in the art of forward play (albeit not kicking techniques) would also be fairly valuable to them.

 

[nightchook]

Food for thought... Th AFL has now said they will investigate the extra "Cost of Living" allowance Sydney have in their salary cap.
If (as we suspect is true) Sydney have hoarded that money instead of giving it to their players and that is the reason why they have the space to afford the Muppet. then....
could that put them in a spot where they can't afford him after 2 years after the AFL potentially remove the extra cap space - especially if its backended..

 

[Wood_Duck]

Food for thought... Th AFL has now said they will investigate the extra "Cost of Living" allowance Sydney have in their salary cap.
If (as we suspect is true) Sydney have hoarded that money instead of giving it to their players and that is the reason why they have the space to afford the Muppet. then....
could that put them in a spot where they can't afford him after 2 years after the AFL potentially remove the extra cap space - especially if its backended..

This Tippett deal may not cost them a lot in terms of a trade, but it may already be about to bite them on the arse big time.

 

[whattagun07]

Is there any chance that we are accepting Jesse White because McKernan has indicated a desire to leave?

If this is not the case, I have no idea why we are entertaining the idea of signing White.

 

[relapse]

But he also had only one way of getting to that party and that was via trade!

The problem with the AFC is that they get narky when they get crossed, come out puffing their chest and talking tough but when it comes to walking the walk we become soft and can't do it. That is a MASSIVE problem with our "leadership" and I use that term very loosely.

Sometimes it actually pays off to stand up for a principle and what you believe in. The weakest are those that constantly "do the right thing" so that we don't make anyone feel uncomfortable.

I could not see any of the great leaders in the AFL or anywhere do what AFC are doing right about now. Do you think Bucky Cunningham would have bent over like this?!

We are talking about a man with great leadership and a resume that our own Steven Trigg won't achieve in he lived for another 500 years.

I am sick and tired of forking out $1000s EVERY single year to a club that is run by a bunch of pussies that could not lead their way out of a phone box. If this deal goes down as reported, they should not bother sending out my membership renewal packs because I am just not interested in being associated with a bunch of muppets that lack principle and leadership.

We will come out with a spin, play the victim in all this! Well guess what?! You are only victim in life if you allow yourself to be one and those running the show keep doing it over and over and over again, expecting a different results. That in itself is a definition of insanity!

A(f******)men

 

[Vigawla]

Why? I could easily afford to drive into the city and park every day for work but why would I?

There'd be quite a difference in the AFC's legal counsel talking to Trigg privately in a car or within earshot of the public on a bus.....

 

[MarcusP2]

Food for thought... Th AFL has now said they will investigate the extra "Cost of Living" allowance Sydney have in their salary cap.
If (as we suspect is true) Sydney have hoarded that money instead of giving it to their players and that is the reason why they have the space to afford the Muppet. then....
could that put them in a spot where they can't afford him after 2 years after the AFL potentially remove the extra cap space - especially if its backended..

Highly unlikely they would change it in any way that affected existing contracts.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Food for thought... Th AFL has now said they will investigate the extra "Cost of Living" allowance Sydney have in their salary cap.
If (as we suspect is true) Sydney have hoarded that money instead of giving it to their players and that is the reason why they have the space to afford the Muppet. then....
could that put them in a spot where they can't afford him after 2 years after the AFL potentially remove the extra cap space - especially if its backended..

I really could not care less what happens to them in 2 years time. The only relevance that has to us at the moment is what deal we are getting for Skurt.

Allowances or not, in 2 years time there won't be Goodes, Bolton and possibly OK running around for Sydney. They could still afford him. All we should be worried about is here and now, what do we get for him.

 

[SydCrow]

Sydney might not be home - and they certainly offered the big $$$ - but they are also able to offer him relative anonymity. He'll be able to go to the shops and the beach, without constantly being harassed by well-meaning supporters. That has to have massive appeal to person like him.

You forget to mention the Sydney Krows for Kurt Klub, membership now open.

Our logo is a fishbowl with Kurt's face on it.

 

[Heafy83]

Tippett wanted out of Adelaide. Sure, he went chasing the $$$ when he left, but his primary motivation seems to have been getting away from Adelaide. He's a fairly private individual and couldn't stand the goldfish nature of being a key player at Adelaide, having his face plastered across the Advertiser every week - and the loss of privacy that entailed.

Sydney might not be home - and they certainly offered the big $$$ - but they are also able to offer him relative anonymity. He'll be able to go to the shops and the beach, without constantly being harassed by well-meaning supporters. That has to have massive appeal to person like him.

We offered him the big $$$ last time. It got him to stay for another 2 years, but at the end of that time he decided it was time to go, no matter what $$$ the AFC were willing to throw at him.

As for why GWS would do it.. haven't you seen the way they've hoarded the compensation "future" draft picks? Tippett is just another way of giving them future first round picks in next year's draft. The fact that they can have him teaching & guiding their younger kids in the art of forward play (albeit not kicking techniques) would also be fairly valuable to them.

Don't buy this for one second. He said this to soften the blow because he wasn't going home to GC. I would put my left nut on it if we matched the $1mill a year he would still be a crow. I have said it before and I'll say it again. He will find it hard going staying out of the public eye in Syd as well. Being the highest paid sports athlete in the city will alone bring him attention and added pressure.
In a town where the rugby centric media cant wait to sink the boots into AFL what happens when he doesn't live up to his price tag....... he will be on the front page of every newspaper.
Those who don't know his face will soon learn to and it will snowball from there. If he wanted away from the spotlight GC was the perfect place.

 

[Tex Support]

Lets face it If I were on the other side of the desk and Harper and Noble came in and told me they were going to redraft Tippett, Id have pissed myself laughing. If a few people around here were being honest they would have to.

Exactly correct.

The manner in which he's burnt the club is incredible, even to a point where you can see our players are furious. The obvious contempt for Tippett coming out of our club on all levels is overwhelming, and I cant see how Noble etc couldve then tried the re-draft tactic and not looked stupid.

 

[Iva Bigun]

Food for thought... Th AFL has now said they will investigate the extra "Cost of Living" allowance Sydney have in their salary cap.
If (as we suspect is true) Sydney have hoarded that money instead of giving it to their players and that is the reason why they have the space to afford the Muppet. then....
could that put them in a spot where they can't afford him after 2 years after the AFL potentially remove the extra cap space - especially if its backended..

The AFL investigating an AFL approved allowance, how do you think that might turn out

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

Lets face it If I were on the other side of the desk and Harper and Noble came in and told me they were going to redraft Tippett, Id have pissed myself laughing. If a few people around here were being honest they would have to.

You seem to be all huff and puff about telling everyone else they are wrong, how about telling us your magnificent plan of attack?

What strategy would you be using to gain a valued return in this trade?

 

[Donkey Magoo]

The AFL investigating an AFL approved allowance, how do you think that might turn out

I think investigating the necessity as opposed to it's current implementation.

 

[Vader]

In past years, the salary cap was lower, so the chances for a million dollar salary were way lower??

Even taking inflation into account, what player of Kurt's calibre has ever gone into the PSD?

• Josh Carr got to Fremantle in 2008, helped by the fact that they had the 2nd pick in the PSD.
• Mal Michael faked his retirement in order to get to Essendon in 2006, once again getting there via the 2nd pick in that draft.
• Camporeale (2004) is probably the best example I can find for your case - he got to his preferred destination (Essendon) who only had pick #4. In doing so he got past his old club (Carlton) and Collingwood (who had pick #2 that year).
• Nick Stevens ended up at Carlton in 2003, after requesting a trade to Collingwood. Score 1-all?

Having gone back through a decade of PSDs those are the best examples I could come up with. None of those players were anywhere near the calibre of Tippett. Two of the four got to their desired homes by virtue of low PSD picks. Camporeale slipped.. but only as far as pick #4. Nick Stevens, on the other hand, never made it to his preferred destination.

 

[Wood_Duck]

You seem to be all huff and puff about telling everyone else they are wrong, how about telling us your magnificent plan of attack?

What strategy would you be using to gain a valued return in this trade?

Have another read big fella. My only point all along has been that, Tiprat and Sydney have put the AFC in a virtually impossible position in regard to this trade. Most of the alternatives being put forward are nothing more than hypothetical mutterings based on rumor . Im not about to go and repeat myself though just because you cant keep up.

 

[Freddy Bassett]

Even taking inflation into account, what player of Kurt's calibre has ever gone into the PSD?

• Josh Carr got to Fremantle in 2008, helped by the fact that they had the 2nd pick in the PSD.
• Mal Michael faked his retirement in order to get to Essendon in 2006, once again getting there via the 2nd pick in that draft.
• Camporeale (2004) is probably the best example I can find for your case - he got to his preferred destination (Essendon) who only had pick #4. In doing so he got past his old club (Carlton) and Collingwood (who had pick #2 that year).
• Nick Stevens ended up at Carlton in 2003, after requesting a trade to Collingwood. Score 1-all?

Having gone back through a decade of PSDs those are the best examples I could come up with. None of those players were anywhere near the calibre of Tippett. Two of the four got to their desired homes by virtue of low PSD picks. Camporeale slipped.. but only as far as pick #4. Nick Stevens, on the other hand, never made it to his preferred destination.

Sudjai Cook

 

[Vader]

Don't buy this for one second. He said this to soften the blow because he wasn't going home to GC. I would put my left nut on it if we matched the $1mill a year he would still be a crow. I have said it before and I'll say it again. He will find it hard going staying out of the public eye in Syd as well. Being the highest paid sports athlete in the city will alone bring him attention and added pressure.
In a town where the rugby centric media cant wait to sink the boots into AFL what happens when he doesn't live up to his price tag....... he will be on the front page of every newspaper.
Those who don't know his face will soon learn to and it will snowball from there. If he wanted away from the spotlight GC was the perfect place.

I honestly believe that the $$$ were the only reason he spent as long as he did with Adelaide.

I think the desire to go home was significant, as was the desire to escape the fishbowl which is the life of an AFL footballer in Adelaide. The plan to go home (to GC) was interrupted when Sydney made him an offer he couldn't refuse - and he realised that he could live a relatively anonymous life in Sydney while still enjoying the $$$. Game Over.

 

[Donkey Magoo]

Even taking inflation into account, what player of Kurt's calibre has ever gone into the PSD?

• Josh Carr got to Fremantle in 2008, helped by the fact that they had the 2nd pick in the PSD.
• Mal Michael faked his retirement in order to get to Essendon in 2006, once again getting there via the 2nd pick in that draft.
• Camporeale (2004) is probably the best example I can find for your case - he got to his preferred destination (Essendon) who only had pick #4. In doing so he got past his old club (Carlton) and Collingwood (who had pick #2 that year).
• Nick Stevens ended up at Carlton in 2003, after requesting a trade to Collingwood. Score 1-all?

Having gone back through a decade of PSDs those are the best examples I could come up with. None of those players were anywhere near the calibre of Tippett. Two of the four got to their desired homes by virtue of low PSD picks. Camporeale slipped.. but only as far as pick #4. Nick Stevens, on the other hand, never made it to his preferred destination.

Also, getting any ready made AFL player, who would immediately slot into your 22 is good for any club. I don't think he would make it to 23 in the draft for a seccond. He wouldn't make it to 19 either.
That's our trade currency, we should assert it.

 

[Vader]

Have another read big fella. My only point all along has been that, Tiprat and Sydney have put the AFC in a virtually impossible position in regard to this trade. Most of the alternatives being put forward are nothing more than hypothetical mutterings based on rumor . Im not about to go and repeat myself though just because you cant keep up.

As Alex said.. alll you've done is take cheap shots from the sidelines, without actually having the balls to put any view of your own up for examination. That's weak. No, it's pathetic.

 

[Lawrst]

we are weak!

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

Have another read big fella. My only point all along has been that, Tiprat and Sydney have put the AFC in a virtually impossible position in regard to this trade. Most of the alternatives being put forward are nothing more than hypothetical mutterings based on rumor . Im not about to go and repeat myself though just because you cant keep up.

So you're more than happy to look down your nose at people who get emotional about this subject knowing we will get **** all?

Gee - I didn't quite get how ****ing awesome you are. Then again, I'm only a moron...right?

 

[Johnny Rutten]

Tippett wanted out of Adelaide. Sure, he went chasing the $$$ when he left, but his primary motivation seems to have been getting away from Adelaide. He's a fairly private individual and couldn't stand the goldfish nature of being a key player at Adelaide, having his face plastered across the Advertiser every week - and the loss of privacy that entailed.

Tippett didn't mind going on Better Homes & Gardens and doing those stupid TV adverts. He craved selective anonymity. Typical of many 'famous' people. They don't mind the public exposure, but only when it suits them. Let's face it, he's a shallow twat. Brad Moran with (some) talent.

 

[Wood_Duck]

As Alex said.. alll you've done is take cheap shots from the sidelines, without actually having the balls to put any view of your own up for examination. That's weak. No, it's pathetic.

Coming from you Vader???

Maybe I should just go down the track of quoting my own opinions as facts all day every day. Seriously are you that confused by my position on this. I dont believe there is much else the club could be doing in the current situation. What the f*** else can I actually say.

Grow up

 

[Vader]

Tippett wanted out of Adelaide. Sure, he went chasing the $$$ when he left, but his primary motivation seems to have been getting away from Adelaide. He's a fairly private individual and couldn't stand the goldfish nature of being a key player at Adelaide, having his face plastered across the Advertiser every week - and the loss of privacy that entailed.

Tippett didn't mind going on Better Homes & Gardens and doing those stupid TV adverts. He craved selective anonymity. Typical of many 'famous' people. They don't mind the public exposure, but only when it suits them. Let's face it, he's a shallow twat. Brad Moran with (some) talent.

There's a difference between doing things in public and not having a private life. The problem with being an AFL footballer in Adelaide is that they are recognised everywhere they go. There's no escaping it. They go to the shops, they have people wishing them well. They go to the beach, they have people coming up to them to chat. They go to a pub and they have to watch out for wannabe heroes. What sort of a life is that?

BH&G is part of the job. So is going to schools and running an Auskick clinic. He gets paid for that stuff - and paid mighty handsomely at that. He doesn't get paid to be on the clock 24/7, every time he sets foot outside his front doorstep.