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[macca23]

Channel 9 reported tonight that Adelaide are hoping to settle the matter with the AFL before the scheduled November 30 hearing.

They said there is precedent for this, although it will be difficult to achieve given the number of charges and individuals involved.

My take on this is that Rowey's statements yesterday that the Crows can refute the charges relating to 3rd party payments with signed affidavits from the 3rd parties that they were independent of the Crows is more than likely correct.

Also it suggests that perhaps the tampering with the draft charge might not be as serious as first thought given that it was for a minimum pick not a fixed one.

Obviously Adelaide must feel that they are able to at least minimise if not dispel some of the charges to think that there is some chance of a negotiated penalty. If that did actually happen then there's no doubt that the penalty is likely to be less than if there was a hearing, because the AFL know that there would be no appeal against it.

Interesting times ahead.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

the biggest was not trading him in 2011 but hindsight is a wonderful thing

Quite a few posters wanted us to (I wasn't one of them), and that was without knowing how events were going to unfold with the whole contract thing. More to do with his value as a player for us compared to his value on the open market.

Credit to those posters I guess. In my defence, I didn't realise two key factors:
1) He hated living in Adelaide so much
2) He is the world's biggest douche

 

[cmndstab]

That's the thing about gambling, sometimes you lose.

Was the reward worth the risk?

The other thing with gambling is that if you can't afford to pay up if you lose, you shouldn't be gambling to start with.

 

[cmndstab]

Quite a few posters wanted us to (I wasn't one of them), and that was without knowing how events were going to unfold with the whole contract thing. More to do with his value as a player for us compared to his value on the open market.

Credit to those posters I guess. In my defence, I didn't realise two key factors:
1) He hated living in Adelaide so much
2) He is the world's biggest douche

Count me in on this train

 

[Elite Crow]

Quite a few posters wanted us to (I wasn't one of them), and that was without knowing how events were going to unfold with the whole contract thing. More to do with his value as a player for us compared to his value on the open market.

Credit to those posters I guess. In my defence, I didn't realise two key factors:
1) He hated living in Adelaide so much
2) He is the world's biggest douche

I wanted Kurt to stay if he wanted to stay, no doubt. But I also wanted the club to trade him last year if the clause/agreement existed. I'm pretty sure those that wanted him traded felt the same way. We didn't know the clause existed for sure. But senior management did. They also knew Kurt was open to be traded last year. They made a shocking call given the information they had.

 

[Elite Crow]

Channel 9 reported tonight that Adelaide are hoping to settle the matter with the AFL before the scheduled November 30 hearing.

They said there is precedent for this, although it will be difficult to achieve given the number of charges and individuals involved.

My take on this is that Rowey's statements yesterday that the Crows can refute the charges relating to 3rd party payments with signed affidavits from the 3rd parties that they were independent of the Crows is more than likely correct.

Also it suggests that perhaps the tampering with the draft charge might not be as serious as first thought given that it was for a minimum pick not a fixed one.

Obviously Adelaide must feel that they are able to at least minimise if not dispel some of the charges to think that there is some chance of a negotiated penalty. If that did actually happen then there's no doubt that the penalty is likely to be less than if there was a hearing, because the AFL know that there would be no appeal against it.

Interesting times ahead.

This could be on the money for a number of the charges given the meeting is now one day and a Friday which means they must be confident of getting through it all.

 

[Elite Crow]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/swans-offer-tippett-35m-4year-deal-20121120-29o3j.html

So $3.55M over 4 years. Funny that the first year is $700k, now we know why they wanted us to take and pay Jesse White.

I also wonder if Adam Goodes has ever been paid close to $900k per year?

And with the bonus two years conditional on him playing 20 games a year, it makes the penalty he cops even more crucial

 

[Sanders]

6 year contract, with final 2 years vesting if he plays 20 games in all of first 4 years.

Wowee

 

[Elite Crow]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...-draft-sanctions/story-e6freck3-1226520658564

Ralph is a flog so I take what he writes with a grain a salt but its good news that we can use free agency still. Is it too late to be rewriting Tex and Dangers contact to front load them? We could effectively go into 2014 and 2015 with an extra $1M a year to buy quality.

 

[JP Sauce]

6 year contract, with final 2 years vesting if he plays 20 games in all of first 4 years.

Wowee

We'll make sure that never happens.

 

[Elite Crow]

We'll make sure that never happens.

If we get stripped of picks and are left with late ones only, recruit a thug a year. They play one game only, against Skurt

 

[Moonwatcher]

The other thing with gambling is that if you can't afford to pay up if you lose, you shouldn't be gambling to start with.

So I shouldn't get on a plane because I can't afford to lose my life?

 

[cmndstab]

So I shouldn't get on a plane because I can't afford to lose my life?

Stop typing you fool, your keyboard could short out at any moment!!!!!

 

[LiquidCrow]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/swans-offer-tippett-35m-4year-deal-20121120-29o3j.html

So $3.55M over 4 years. Funny that the first year is $700k, now we know why they wanted us to take and pay Jesse White.

I also wonder if Adam Goodes has ever been paid close to $900k per year?

And with the bonus two years conditional on him playing 20 games a year, it makes the penalty he cops even more crucial

It's no wonder Brisbane said they couldn't compete. With so much at stake, it also goes some extent to explaining his legal team's actions so far. 20 games a year also allows Kurt an out should the Swans get drawn against us twice in the coming years!

 

[BrissyCrow]

Another milestone slips by (above) Post number 22222 !! I guessed we would have a result by that number - but now with all the delays 33333 is looking more probable

No the next milestone should be 23456

 

[BrissyCrow]

They were very confident he was staying. They actually thought he was ready to sign just before finals this year. Up until then every indication was that he would sign a long term contract.

Naive??? Dunno

I dont think they were confident. Thats why they tested Brisbane and knowing what they new (that Tippett still wanted out) they should have made the trade even if it was just for pick 8

 

[BrissyCrow]

The post that will be the first to reveal the actual outcome of the commission:

25,073 - Nick85 (boobs)
26,251 - Schulzycrow (followed by duck)
26,942 - OutofTownCrow
27,916 - Vigawla
28,333 - Malem
29,335 - DonkeyMagoo

2 666 2

 

[BrissyCrow]

I'm sure we can search for the thread I started last year about trading Tippett, even before the agreement came out. There was only maybe half a dozen people that agreed with me, but I` wasn't a stranger.

Pure idiocy to know there was an agreement out there as well as videos talking about his intention to go home - and to then gamble that you can turn him around.

Should lose their job for this alone, this level of gamble. Don't roll the dice if you can't risk the downside.

I was another. Ask cmndstab. We were debating the issue.

 

[Moonwatcher]

I didn't want to trade Tippett, but if we all knew how much he wanted out of Adelaide most would trade.

 

[BrissyCrow]

Count me in on this train

I pleased that you are honest.

 

[Flynn White]

If we get stripped of picks and are left with late ones only, recruit a thug a year. They play one game only, against Skurt

Let's recruit this bloke!

MARK "JACKO" JACKSON

 

[Sanders]

We'll make sure that never happens.

Heh heh

Add in the $2m for 2 year option and that's $5.5m over 6 years

One of the richest contracts ever?

 

[Flynn White]

20 games per year? lol will never happen

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/swans-offer-tippett-35m-4year-deal-20121120-29o3j.html

So $3.55M over 4 years. Funny that the first year is $700k, now we know why they wanted us to take and pay Jesse White.

I also wonder if Adam Goodes has ever been paid close to $900k per year?

And with the bonus two years conditional on him playing 20 games a year, it makes the penalty he cops even more crucial

If only people were willing to accept all of EQ's articles on face value..

 

[Flynn White]

If only people were willing to accept all of EQ's articles on face value..

Nah mate, you have to believe everything you read!!! Especially articles from people like EQ, Caro and Rucci.