Tippett's Gone - READ RULES BEFORE POSTING

[swanfan]

The rooch one is fake. But 100% accurate?

Didn't that douche BT have a fake one ?

 

[PyroCrow]

In regard to Rohan:

His break will completely change his prospects going forward. This is the sort of injury that breaks you mentally as well as physically, regaining confidence is his leg is going to be an uphill battle. I doubt he will ever become a good player again and even if he does it won't be for a very long time (think Otten only just getting back into form 2 years on). The injury might have also cost him a yard of pace (but we won't know that until he starts playing again). Simply, he is damaged in the truest sense of the word. I do not want the outcome of this deal to haunt us for years to come.

 

[dragon1628]

Make Danger captain now! What a legend!

AGREE!!! Gary Rohan to the crows!!

 

[marvin]

Regardless of what fair value is, we should be doing our best to put as many potential irons in the fire.

Remind Kennedy that being unsigned means they don't live him enough.
Tell Jetta it would be fun to have Danger as his wingman next time he sprints.
Explain to Hannebury that he can keep his number 4 guernsey if he comes.
Show Nick Smith how much we've always loved our back pocket players.

They officially started hitting up Tippett 2 days after he put talks on hold till the end of the season. We should have no compunction about putting any seeds of doubt in the minds of as many players as we can, even if they aren't genuine targets. Maybe they become part of a 3 way deal somewhere.

This move has to unsettle some player(s) at Sydney. Did anyone really think Dawes wanted out till last week? I hope this has a domino effect too.

 

[gloveski]

Alright. Didn't really follow him closely this season as you can see. What was wrong with him just out of interest?

had knee issues preseason that flared again and an ankle aswell from memory, only played about 6 in the ressies playing about 3qtrs but was still a ball magnet like his junior days

 

[Trevanian]

How i imagine the next few weeks will look like on this board;

 

[Magma]

How i imagine the next few weeks will look like on this board;

anyone who suggests it should feel filthy with themselves.

 

[Vader]

My interpretation is that there could have been a written contract between Tippett & GC (signed during that loophole period last year),
and a separate "gentleman's agreement" between Tippett & the Crows (agreement made at the time of his last contract extension).
I think that is all in line with what AFGM has stated.

There could have been a written contract between Tippett & GC. This was AFGM's assertion for well over a month. It's pretty damn obvious now that no such contract exists.

The "gentlemen's agreement", from what Trigg & Harper have said, was that Adelaide would do what they could to make Tippett's move home to GC as easy as possible. They've quite rightly said that they won't be abiding by it, given the way that he & his management have screwed the club around over the last 2 weeks.

What i dont understand, however, are the legal (if any) or other ramifications if the Crows do not adhere to that gentleman's agreement and therefore how binding is it?

It would appear that it was a verbal contract - and like all verbal contracts, they're not worth the paper that they're written on. More to the point, the Crows have a strong case to argue that Tippett & his manager voided the agreement by their actions (or inactions) over the last 2 weeks.

Concussion 1 was against North Melbourne in Round 13. He ran out the next week to play against Richmond, was well enough to kick 3 goals, take 6 grabs and get 2 votes in the B+F.

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Extrapolating based on 12 concussion affected games is simply wrong. Extrapolating Tippett's season as being better than Tex's is very dubious.

OK, so let's extrapolate on those first 12 games, which weren't affected by concussion. After 11 rounds he had 38 votes (your figures). That's an average of 3.17 per game. Extrapolate that out to 25 games and we predict him finishing on 79.2 votes. That would rank him 4th, though it's fair to say that Walker has a higher vote per game rate (but was rubbed out for 5 weeks by the MRP and sat out R23 for good measure). Call it 5th.

 

[Crows Feet]

Swans' board is throwing up Grundy as a suggestion.

 

[swanfan]

Swans' board is throwing up Grundy as a suggestion.

Seeing some of their posts on here makes me throw up.

 

[PyroCrow]

When Sando hears that we traded for Jesse White

 

[Tas]

The "gentlemen's agreement", from what Trigg & Harper have said, was that Adelaide would do what they could to make Tippett's move home to GC as easy as possible. They've quite rightly said that they won't be abiding by it, given the way that he & his management have screwed the club around over the last 2 weeks.

It would appear that it was a verbal contract - and like all verbal contracts, they're not worth the paper that they're written on. More to the point, the Crows have a strong case to argue that Tippett & his manager voided the agreement by their actions (or inactions) over the last 2 weeks.

Verbal contracts are just as binding as written ones, especially if multiple parties know the terms.

It wont be deemed as a contract though, because I don't think there was any consideration which doesn't make it a legal or binding contract. As far as I have heard there was just an understanding that after his contract expired if he wanted to go home then the Crows would make it an easy transition.

If they felt it was going to be a sticking point, they would have put it into his contract.

I can understand him wanting to go home. I just don't get what is going on with him wanting to go to a Melbourne club or Sydney. Why is he that adamant about leaving the Crows? Was the money that bad that you guys were offering?

 

[Wright Away]

BUT GUYS JESSIE WHITE PLAYED 3 GAMES THIS YEAR AND A FEW LAST YEAR. CLEARLY A FRINGE PLAYER WHO CANNOT GET A GAME IS A FAIR TRADE FOR A TOP 10 PLAYER AT THE CROWS. I MEAN WHO CARES IF TIPPETT'S OUTPUT IS FAR BEYOND ANYTHING JESSE WHITE HAS EVER PRODUCED.

 

[Tex200]

Danger would know rohan from their time at falcons

 

[Danoz]

...
OK, so let's extrapolate on those first 12 games, which weren't affected by concussion. After 11 rounds he had 38 votes (your figures). That's an average of 3.17 per game. Extrapolate that out to 25 games and we predict him finishing on 79.2 votes. That would rank him 4th, though it's fair to say that Walker has a higher vote per game rate (but was rubbed out for 5 weeks by the MRP and sat out R23 for good measure). Call it 5th.

Further to this, up to rd 12 he had 25 goals. Had him on track for 50 goals.

 

[Vader]

There are some nice beaches in NSW.

No shortage of beaches to go surfing in Sydney.

 

[Danoz]

Verbal contracts are just as binding as written ones, especially if multiple parties know the terms.

It wont be deemed as a contract though, because I don't think there was any consideration which doesn't make it a legal or binding contract. As far as I have heard there was just an understanding that after his contract expired if he wanted to go home then the Crows would make it an easy transition.

If they felt it was going to be a sticking point, they would have put it into his contract.

I can understand him wanting to go home. I just don't get what is going on with him wanting to go to a Melbourne club or Sydney. Why is he that adamant about leaving the Crows? Was the money that bad that you guys were offering?

We were offering him pretty similar to Sydney, Bris and GC.

The official line is something like, he didnt like the media and fan attention he was getting, especially after the concussions, with every man and his dog in Adelaide asking him how is head was, and when he would be signing a contract.

Piss weak basically.

 

[Danoz]

http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=149283&utm_medium=RSS

Blah, blah bloody blah

What a tosser Blucher is.

 

[Vader]

If he goes to gws in the PSD what do they have to pay him?

It won't get that far. But assuming it did, Tippett would specify a salary as part of the conditions when nominating for the draft. By drafting him, GWS (or anyone else who drafts him) would implicitly be agreeing to meet those salary demands.

 

[Tas]

We were offering him pretty similar to Sydney, Bris and GC.

The official line is something like, he didnt like the media and fan attention he was getting, especially after the concussions, with every man and his dog in Adelaide asking him how is head was, and when he would be signing a contract.

Piss weak basically.

I guess he wont have to worry too much about being hassled in Sydney, not as much as a footy made city I guess.

It sounds like a worry though, it seems like a pretty poor reason to want to pack and leave.

 

[Vader]

Please no roughead either.

Give Johnstone Jenkins and McKernan a crack.

No way Hawks would get rid of him either

Why? Roughead is a massive upgrade on any (or all) of those 3. I'd happily trade all of those 3 plus our 2nd round pick if it meant getting our hands on Roughead.

 

[bobshoby]

A post in their thread suggesting that Longmire put any premiership player off limits in trade talk etc
"Longmire quoted in "The Age" newspaper that the swans will be keeping the team together and that salary cap pressure would not break up the team."

If so the trade clearly isn't going to happen

 

[Magma]

"Each of the three clubs - Brisbane, Gold Coast and Sydney - ticked lots of boxes, but even for Kurt to play under John Longmire, who actually played the same role that he plays, was a bit of a thing for him because he's never played under a coach who was more than about 5-foot-9."

that could be one of the most ridiculous things i've ever read.

 

[swanfan]

I guess he wont have to worry too much about being hassled in Sydney, not as much as a footy made city I guess.

It sounds like a worry though, it seems like a pretty poor reason to want to pack and leave.

Mummy they won't leave me alone.

 

[WAG]

Tippett + pick 20 for Kennedy + Swans second rounder?

I really want to see people stop saying the phrase "cant see it happening"

Did any of us think up until last week he would play in a Swans jumper?

Anythings possible and $$ talks, BS walks.

Can't see it happening.


In other news.....

http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=149283&utm_medium=RSS

Kurt tipped by swift Swans

"In late August when we agreed with Adelaide that we would put the talks off until the end of the season, a couple of days thereafter I had a call from Andrew Ireland … saying that they would certainly be in the mix and keen to talk if he decided to leave Adelaide," Tippett's manager Peter Blucher said on Melbourne radio station SEN on Saturday.

"Obviously he made that decision and I've got to tell you it was a very, very hard decision in itself … it's very hard to look in the eyes of teammates who you've just played a preliminary final with - they were a whisker away from playing in a Grand Final - and say, 'I'm leaving'.

I was under the impression that he texted his team mates.