Toby Greene boot to Luke Dahlhaus face.

[doggies ftw]

**** me some people are ******ed. "It happens every week in a marking contest what's different". No it ****ing doesn't. When was the last time somebody flew into a marking contest literally studs up into someone's back? It literally never happens

 

[Snake_Baker]

Anyone who can categorically & unequivocally say he deliberately kicked Dalhuas in the head better give me next week's lotto numbers then.

This is where the whole scenario will fall down.

How do you rule on something like this from a "duty of care" angle?

It opens up a Pandoras Box of interpretations down the track.

 

[Snake_Baker]

**** me some people are ******ed. "It happens every week in a marking contest what's different". No it ******* doesn't. When was the last time somebody flew into a marking contest literally studs up into someone's back? It literally never happens

How are "studs" particularly relevant? Do you think knees aren't just as capable of causing damage?

 

[doggies ftw]

Anyone who can categorically & unequivocally say he deliberately kicked Dalhuas in the head better give me next week's lotto numbers then.

He probably didn't deliberately get him in the face (well wouldnt surprise me if he did because hes a ****ing germ) but that's irrelevant. If I elect to bump even if I'm going for the shoulder but hit the head that's on me. He deliberately fended him off with his foot because why else would his foot be in that position, too bad you got him in the face you're gone. There's literally no question whether it was deliberate or not.

 

[The Dice Man]

I actually think Green knew exactly what he was doing when you look at it in real speed. He knew exactly where to put his foot, and kept it there and even strengthened his reach. He's ****ed and should be gone for at least a month.

 

[BLERN]

Think that's a fair bit different. Daw was using his natural leap and Jetta had no idea until the last moment. No problem with Daw in that clip, but Greene is facing his opponent, and never, ever takes any effort to lessen the impact, infact he holds his leg in the air to strengthen it. It's really shit.

When you are protecting space, you tend to want to do exactly that. Why would he attempt to lessen the impact from somebody running into him? And potentially allow them to impact the contest

 

[Ancient Tiger]

Well for starters Greene's action of sticking his leg out is no different to all the other times players have stuck their leg out to protect space while taking a mark and while yes it wasn't a marking contest he was meeting the ball while in the air. Dahlhause unfortunately was unlucky and ran into his foot.

As for deliberate that's an assumption on your part from what I saw of the replay to me it looked like Greene had his eye's on the ball the entire time so it's not as clear cut as you're trying to make it out to be.

The difference is like light and day. High contact when fending off the ball is always looked at differently to high contact going for a mark. That's just the way it is.

If Greene doesn't go, does that mean every time a player receives a loopy handball he can kung fu kick an opponent in the face? Wow. What a way to legally hurt your opponents and take them out of the game. Since when has a boot in the face been a legal way of fending off an opponent that is about to tackle you?

 

[BLERN]

**** me some people are ******ed. "It happens every week in a marking contest what's different". No it ******* doesn't. When was the last time somebody flew into a marking contest literally studs up into someone's back? It literally never happens

Thats because none of us can literally fly

 

[The Dice Man]

When you are protecting space, you tend to want to do exactly that. Why would he attempt to lessen the impact from somebody running into him? And potentially allow them to impact the contest

The post below yours explains it perfectly. You can defend space, but not like that.

 

[Snake_Baker]

He probably didn't deliberately get him in the face (well wouldnt surprise me if he did because hes a ******* germ) but that's irrelevant. If I elect to bump even if I'm going for the shoulder but hit the head that's on me. He deliberately fended him off with his foot because why else would his foot be in that position, too bad you got him in the face you're gone. There's literally no question whether it was deliberate or not.

What if a player runs in to an opposition players shoulder?

 

[pazza]

Wasn't a mark so the action was arguably dangerous.

You just knew though that Greene would do something stupid. Gets 2 weeks.

 

[Snake_Baker]

I actually think Green knew exactly what he was doing when you look at it in real speed. He knew exactly where to put his foot, and kept it there and even strengthened his reach. He's ****** and should be gone for at least a month.

Well past the qualifying final, hey?

 

[BLERN]

The post below yours explains it perfectly. You can defend space, but not like that.

And i do agree on that point.

I didnt think it was a good look live. Or on replay. But he is technically allowed to do what he did.

I doubt that will last long though

 

[The Dice Man]

Well past the qualifying final, hey?

Nothing to do with that at all. I cant believe there are so many people ok with that play.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Stop trying to justify this as part of footy. It isn't. It has never been. This is a deliberate and violent act. He kicked him in the face, ffs. Minimum 6 weeks.

Yeah, nah.

I was going to give a bit more in my response but thought I'd just stop at what it deserved.

 

[Frank Bunn]

He's not compelled to run face first in to a boot.

Jetta was also not compelled to run face first in to a knee a couple of weeks back.

No report.



Personally, I'd prefer to run in to a boot, rather than a knee.

Daw took a mark. Greene was receiving a handball. The rules treat the two actions differently.

 

[hoianbulldog]

Who was universally known as a dog before him in your time?

Robbie Muir, Rhys Jones...........many others.

This guy is a great footballer but he plays like its the 1980's.

 

[Roos9699]

If it's not a mark you are allowed to run at a player to tackle them were you expecting him to let green get the ball and run off

Have you ever played the game using your boot on an opposition player is the dirtiest act you can do

You can't fend off by kicking a player and that is effectively what he has done


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Straw man argument I never said Dalhause wasn't allowed to try tackle him. My point was Greene is allowed to protect space and this was just an unfortunate accident. I've watched the replay a couple of times now and Dalhause had enough time to dodge and then try and tackle besides another Bulldogs player was coming up from behind Greene to help out so it's not like Greene had a clear run if Dalhaus missed a tackle.

I've actually copped an unfortunate hit to the head from a boot before the guy was my best mate actually and he'd never do something like that intentionally it was just bad luck on my part.

Well if it's a fend off or not that's now up to the MRP to decide.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Nothing to do with that at all. I cant believe there are so many people ok with that play.

I'm stirring, but you did leave yourself open.

It's an ugly incident, but speaking from a strictly legal perspective (which is what the MRP/Tribunal MUST do), I doubt they could muster a charge, much less sustain a suspension.

This is more likely to be the sort of incident that will spark a rule change a la Lindsay Thomas.

 

[Pessimistic]

He's not compelled to run face first in to a boot.

Jetta was also not compelled to run face first in to a knee a couple of weeks back.

No report.



Personally, I'd prefer to run in to a boot, rather than a knee.

You could literally find hundreds of examples like this

 

[marty36]

**** me some people are ******ed. "It happens every week in a marking contest what's different". No it ******* doesn't. When was the last time somebody flew into a marking contest literally studs up into someone's back? It literally never happens

So you want the foot to be used to fend off players when ever they feel necessary with sprigs to the face just a unfortunate circumstance if it occurs

I don't agree with a lot of the MRP but if you have ever played the game and got spriggs to the face other than from an accidental boot ie in a marking contest you would know it's simply an unwritten law that is a dirty act


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[doggies ftw]

So you want the foot to be used to fend off players when ever they feel necessary with sprigs to the face just a unfortunate circumstance if it occurs

I don't agree with a lot of the MRP but if you have ever played the game and got spriggs to the face other than from an accidental boot ie in a marking contest you would know it's simply an unwritten law that is a dirty act


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Mate I'm saying he should get 3 or 4 weeks considering his record. He knew what he was doing and it's a dog act. Don't care how good a footballer is the campaigners a ****ing idiot. Will love to see him miss a final one day and GWS lose because of it.

 

[Glenhope]

Yeah, nah.

I was going to give a bit more in my response but thought I'd just stop at what it deserved.

Clear thinking not your thing? Common on these forums. You have lots of company.

I'm sure that you're the type who, after being kicked in the face, says "Don't worry about it mate, it's nothing. Totally my fault, I apologise"

 

[marty36]

Straw man argument I never said Dalhause wasn't allowed to try tackle him. My point was Greene is allowed to protect space and this was just an unfortunate accident. I've watched the replay a couple of times now and Dalhause had enough time to dodge and then try and tackle besides another Bulldogs player was coming up from behind Greene to help out so it's not like Greene had a clear run if Dalhaus missed a tackle.

I've actually copped an unfortunate hit to the head from a boot before the guy was my best mate actually and he'd never do something like that intentionally it was just bad luck on my part.

Well if it's a fend off or not that's now up to the MRP to decide.

Are you happy for players to use the leg and boot to fend off players in general play?


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[Snake_Baker]

Mate I'm saying he should get 3 or 4 weeks considering his record. He knew what he was doing and it's a dog act. Don't care how good a footballer is the campaigners a ******* idiot. Will love to see him miss a final one day and GWS lose because of it.

You're missing an important piece of the puzzle.

Did he know what Dalhaus was doing?