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Toby Greene boot to Luke Dahlhaus face.

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If he was marking the ball, he wouldn't have put his foot out like that because he would have had already completed the mark before Dalhaus arrived and if Dalhaus went to tackle him, he would have got 50 metres. if he kicked him after the completion of the mark while Dalhaus was moving to stand the mark, then that would have been reportable too (and the free kick reversed). if the opposition was involved in the marking contest, then the rules allow for a different interpretation, because we all love a speccie.

At the very least, this was a high fend off causing injury to an opposition player. Just as you are not allowed to fend off with a fist to the head (or body), you should not be allowed to fend off with a boot and studs.


Do you two have history?
I agree it was a high fend off, and i have said i agree with the free.
But i don't think he should be suspended for it.
If he is and fights it, imo he will win.
 
He was reported on the spot. Imo it was a free kick and no more. I think the over the top response of the report was in part due to it being Toby Greene. That's the point.
If your saying the free kick shouldn't have been awarded, fair enough. The report is just notification to the MRP to review the incident and means nothing really. Given the incident drew blood the report doesn't surprise me.
 
Didn't think there was much in it at first but watching replays, the action AFTER the initial contact to the face looks a bit unnatural. Of course, everyone can look different in slow motion/not in real time but he pushes off/sinks the boot in.

Don't think he can be charged when any sort of intent cannot be proven though, and to be fair, he was going for the mark initially.
 

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I agree it was a high fend off, and i have said i agree with the free.
But i don't think he should be suspended for it.
If he is and fights it, imo he will win.
So if a player in possession of the ball fended off another player with a fist to the face causing blood to be spilled, you would be happy for no suspension?
This is clearly worse than a fist to the face, because it involves boot studs and a boot.
 
Didn't think there was much in it at first but watching replays, the action AFTER the initial contact to the face looks a bit unnatural. Of course, everyone can look different in slow motion/not in real time but he pushes off/sinks the boot in.

Don't think he can be charged when any sort of intent cannot be proven though, and to be fair, he was going for the mark initially.

The ball was hand passed to him. No mark.

Intent always has to be interpreted because no one can see inside a players head. The evidence that he chose to straighten his leg towards Dalhaus and push off so as to change direction mid-air should be enough to determine intent, at least for the contact, if not for contact to the head.
 
I love watching Toby play, he is a champion. Does not warrant a suspension for last nights so called incident. Know his old man Mick must be proud! Toby is a star a player every club and every fan would want. Plays the game the way it should be played.
 
Its not a normal action. I have never seen that in the 25 years ive watched footy. Knee would of been fine, but a boot studs up is reckless.
Will be nothing. Eyes on the ball the whole time.

Interesting thay the salty dogs fans have forgotten the knee to Wards head in the pf.

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He's clearly a dirty player and perhaps just a campaigner in general. Anger management issues I guess.

I'm not sure I accept that he intentionally intends to kick Haus in the face...it looks more reckless to me. Like he wants to make some contact and doesn't particularly care where so thrusts the leg out.

EDIT: Helluva player though
 
So if a player in possession of the ball fended off another player with a fist to the face causing blood to be spilled, you would be happy for no suspension?
This is clearly worse than a fist to the face, because it involves boot studs and a boot.
In what situation though, and a fist is a bit more intent don't you think?
My argument is he was in a situation where he could of been hurt, he protected himself, got it wrong and was penalised with a free against.
He was also reported, but i think, and it's just my opinion, that he has every right to defend himself, he couldn't use his hands, he was getting the ball with them.
 

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Using your foot has always been a legitimate way of protecting yourself and the ball, Greene has absolutely nothing to answer for, the umpire who reported him might find himself being made to reread the rule book.
Can you quote any rules srating this?

Using your foot is sometimes called a kick or a trip.

Stops to the face of another players face has never been acceptable to my knowledge.

If he goes up with a bent knee to fend of the tackle it would never have been discussed.

Stops to the face of another player from a kicking action is why he is in serious trouble.
 
If he had made the same action with his fist, hand or elbow to "protect space" and that was the outcome, his season would be over.

In a world of trouble.
Or his knee if he was jumping to catch a ball coming in from a height? All while having his eyes on the ball the whole time? Oh, that's right you're allowed to do that.
 
It was irresponsible to stick the boot out, but to argue he kicked another player in the face is disingenuous. He hung the boot out but there was no kicking motion.
There is no argument surely, he straight up kicked him in the face. The only question is whether it was intentional, and I think you're a brave man at this point to say he didn't mean to do it given his character, how often do you see something like this on the footy field?
 

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If you want to protect yourself in a marking contest you stick your knee out -a perfectly legal action which has been happening for a hundred years. Sticking your boot out studs first with an opponent there is a completely unnatural and uncommon (not to mention extremely dangerous) football action.

I guess all those who think that it was just an unfortunate accident believe it's just a big old coincidence that the player who did it just happens to also has a history of striking players, headbutting players, spitting on players, assaulting bouncers etc...

Grub.
 
Well, me thinks the MRP will have a different view on it. This is not the first time he has done this. He did it against Richmond as well but only got the player in the upper chest. He is a thug who probably trains for this. Receive a handball while jumping and kicking straight at a player he knew was there. It was not a mark and you can't fend off players who are coming to tackle you with a fist, elbow or boot to 'clear the space'. He copped him fair on the gob and should be suspended, again. And it is Toby Greene. Bully boy who picks on the smallest players in the league. GWS must be so proud of him because he plays on the edge.
 
How is raising your foot that high knowing someone is coming for you not reckless? Looks like he was going for a high kung fu kick. If Dangerfield got a week for what was accidental, then even if it's accidental it'd be inconsistent to let him off. Lucky it wasn't worse. Don't want to sound dramatic but stuff like that can blind a person, seriously injure them. It wouldn't make a difference if it were anyone else, but Greene has shown he's not averse to 'rough conduct.'

Should miss 3 weeks at least inc first week of finals imo.
 
I'm starting to like Toby.

He's a quality troll. Could not care what anyone thinks of him. Is pretty good at playing football too.


I'm much the same, love watching him play, skills are quite something, but he's in trouble again here. People can argue if it's a kick or not, if it was intentional or not, but impartial viewing of the incident says he has a case to answer & how long he gets is really the only question.
 

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Toby Greene boot to Luke Dahlhaus face.

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