Summer Tokyo 2021 - General Discussion and Preview Thread (23rd July to 8th Aug)

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Looks like it's going to be a really strong team overall.

With Horton coming 6th they should just take all 6, can rest Chalmers and Winnington in the heats if they want, and still qualify for finals easily. Wouldn’t hurt to have Horton around the team too.
 
This is what happened day 1 at USA swimming trials. They are doing the full heats/semis/finals programs so they only had 3 finals this morning our time.

400m IM men's winner was 1 second faster than Brendon Smith, the women's 400m IM where our girls didn't qualify US winner was 6 seconds faster and in 400m for men the winner was a couple of seconds slower than Winnington. In the semis of the 100m women's butterfly Torri Huske was 0.15 sec faster than Emma McKeown to jump to 4th fastest female ever and Emma gets pushed back to 5th fastest ever.

 
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This Swim Swam magazine pages giving Day 1 and Day 2 recaps of the Oz trials has lots of info and gets update as the night session progress and then over night. It has ranking of top 5 swims for the last 12 months of each final held before that finals' swim.

Day 1

Day 2

here is summary for this mornings Day 3 heats
 

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Have Basil over Harker. How did he get the coveted gig? He commed league at one time didn't he?
Yeah Harker did league as well being a general sports reporter. Pretty sure he has been doing boxing and water polo for Ch 7 since Atlanta Olympics in 1996. He called the 2000 water polo gold medal game for the Aussie women so he has been involved in water sports commentating for years as he also does the Surf Living Saving national championships.
 







6 women swam the qualifying time.

The top four Australian women combine for a 7:39.59, which is nearly two seconds faster than the current world record in the 800 freestyle relay of 7:41.50 held by Australia. This does not account for relay exchanges and any additional drops that will happen between now and Tokyo.

In the prelims this morning the six swimmers times would have made finals at the 2019 FINA World Championships.




 
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Good summary of tonight's session at SwimSwam Magazine's daily and evening session summary at


The summary has best 5 times for the last 12 months before tonight's swims. after them

200m IM Kaylee McKeown now has top 2 times

200m Free Titmus 2nd fastest of all time and 1.3 sec better than Ledeckey the last 12 months and Emma McKeon now has 4th fastest time of the year.

800m Free Jack McLoughlin's 7:42.51 is 2nd fastest time of last 12 months.

Times from USA and Canadian trials will be interesting to see how they go against these times.
 
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This article two days go by SwimSwam Magazine tipped the following 10 world records as the most likely to fall at the US trials. Based on what has happened in Adelaide it looks a prescient call. Here's an edited version.


But with so many events incredibly competitive for the top-two spots this year, there may be a chance we see one or two all-time marks fall in Omaha. Here’s a look at the 10 events where we could see a new world record (from least to most likely):

Honorable Mention: Women’s 200 Free – 1:52.98, Federica Pellegrini (2009) (Titmus tonight goes close)

This one might seem a little bit out there, seeing as Federica Pellegrini‘s super-suited record is just one of two long course individual marks on the women’s side that has survived from 2009. Of Ledecky’s four individual events, this is the only one where she’s not a lock for gold at the Olympics.

10. Women’s 50 Free – 23.67, Sarah Sjostrom (2017)
This one also comes a little out of left field, but it’s largely a byproduct of the recent performance from 16-year-old stud Claire Curzan. Simone Manuel won Olympic silver five years ago in the women’s 50 free in a time of 24.09, became the first American under 24 seconds in 2017 (23.97), and then won the World title two years ago in Gwangju in 24.05.

9. Women’s 400 free – 3:56.46, Katie Ledecky (2016) ( Titmus goes close Sunday night)
Like she did in 2016, Ledecky will no doubt be saving her best for the Olympics this year rather than Trials, but with the 400 free being the first event on her program, no one would be shocked to see her unleash something in the event.

8. Women’s 800 free – 8:04.79, Katie Ledecky (2016)
Another Ledecky race, sorry.

7. Men’s 100 free – 46.91, Cesar Cielo (2009)

First off, Caeleb Dressel narrowly missed the record by five one-hundredths at the 2019 World Championships in 46.96, and this should be the most rested he’s been for a long course meet since then.

6. Women’s 100 Breast – 1:04.13, Lilly King (2017)
If there’s one thing we know about Lilly King, it’s that she hates losing. And while the times she actually loses a race are few and far between, she did have her 50 breaststroke world record snatched away by Italian youngster Benedetta Pilato in May.

5. Women’s 200 Back – 2:03.35, Regan Smith (2019)
Regan Smith
turned up at the 2019 World Championships and absolutely blew everyone out of the water in the women’s 200 backstroke, smashing Missy Franklin‘s world record in the semi-finals in a time of 2:03.35. Smith went on to win the gold medal by over two and a half seconds in 2:03.69, and no one in the United States will be able to come close to her if she’s at her best in Omaha.

4. Men’s 100 Fly – 49.50, Caeleb Dressel (2019)
The only world record that Dressel owns in the long course pool is the 100 fly, where he’s now eclipsed the 50-second barrier more times (three) than everyone else in history combined (twice).

3. Men’s 100 Back – 51.85, Ryan Murphy (2016)
Ryan Murphy
was the world’s best backstroker in 2016, and seems to be hell-bent on proving that to be true once again in 2021.

2. Women’s 1500 Free – 15:20.48, Katie Ledecky (2018)
The 1500 freestyle has been raced so infrequently on the women’s program over the course of Ledecky’s career that it’s hard not to place it so high.

1. Women’s 100 Back – 57.57, Regan Smith (2019)
The women’s 100 back is one of the most highly anticipated events of the meet, and for good reason. Here’s a crazy stat: the sixth seed at Trials, Claire Curzan, is entered with a time that would’ve won silver at the 2019 World Championships.

* Kaylee McKeown broke this world record on Sunday night in Adelaide with a 57.45.
 

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200 Fly: Matthew Temple a name I've not heard before.. pipped David Morgan.. with both now Tokyo bound.
 
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200IM: Another classy swim by Kaylee.

200M: Arnie looked like a sprinter the way she picked off Emma. Look out Ledecky.
 
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Change of tack to athletics. World Athletics (formerly IAAF until late 2019) have been having a preview of 100 top athletes for Tokyo, with 10 per general discipline eg sprints, middle distance, horizontal jumps etc. 2 Australian athletes get a preview in the vertical jumps preview.



Kennedy's 4.82 in March is equal 4th ranked woman and equal 6th ranked valut for the year. 2 Americans are ahead of her with Katie Nageotte of USA vaulting 4.93, 4.85 and 4.84. Russian Sidorova who can compete as an individual has 4.91 and other US vaulter Morris at 4.84. Between January and April she vaulted 4.75, 3 times as well as 4.70 3 times as well and all vaults rank the top 22 for this year.

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Nina Kennedy is the latest in a long line of leading Australian pole vaulters. The likes of Emma George and Tatiana Grigorieva paved the way for Australian vaulters, and now Kennedy - who earlier this year set a national record of 4.82m - has gone higher than them all.

A series of injuries - including a quad tear, hamstring tear and back issues - decimated Kennedy's 2019 campaign, but later that year she teamed up with six-metre vaulter Paul Burgess, who has unlocked Kennedy's full potential.

McDermott's 2.00m in April at nationals in Sydney is equal 2nd ranked in the world this year, behind Vashti Cunningham of USA's 2.02m. She jumped 1.96 on the Gold Coast on the weekend and back in February and these are ranked equal 7th for the year. there have been 9 jumps at 1.96.

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When most of the world went into lockdown during the Covid-19 pandemic, Nicola McDermott was determined to make good use of the time. "During lockdown, I’ve never trained so hard," said the Australian high jumper. "It gave me a real sense of purpose."

That became evident earlier this year when McDermott scaled an Oceanian record of 2.00m.

Her past two experiences of global championships have ended in disappointment, with a no-height at the 2017 World Championships and a 15th-place finish in qualifying at the 2019 World Championships. But perhaps it will be third time lucky for McDermott at the Tokyo Olympics.


Not in these previews are 2 Aussies jumpers who are ranked top 10 this year.

Brandon Starc jumped 2.33m in Italy late last week which ranks him equal 3rd highest for the year along with 4 others. A Russian at 2.37m and an American at 2.36m are the only others who have jumped higher. 2.33 is the Olympic qualify mark so only 7 have achieved this in 2021 but the window is also from late 2019 to mid 2020 because of Covid. So far 15 have qualified.

Kurtis Marschall with a 5.80m in January is ranked equal 6th. he also vaulted 5.80m in February. He vaulted 5.75m March and 5.70m on the Gold Coast on the weekend.

The top 2 are way out in front of the chasing pack, the huge favourite Swede Armand Duplantis with a 6.10m and American Christopher Nilsen at 5.91m. 3rd to 5th have vaulted between 8.86m and 5.81m.
 
Almost other world record. Stubblety-Cook wins 2.06.28 +0.16 outside wR and he or Matt Wislon were under WR pace for all but the last 10m. Matt Wilson misses out by +0.24.

Wonder if they will get Stubblety-Cook to have another 100m breaststroke swim before the Olympics so that he can get a qualifier. He missed out by +0.48 but will get to swim the Medley relay leg.

 
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Chalmers won in 100m in 47.59 he was fast in first 50 and a decent start. Temple got 2nd in 48.32 and qualified y 1/100th of second. Mcevoy got 3rd from lucky lane 8 in 48.49and will get a relay swim.
 
So Chalmers potential program is

100m - heat/SF/Final
200m - heat/SF/Final
4x100m - heat/Final
4x200m - heat/Final
4x100m Medley Final
4x100m Medley Mixed Final

I am assuming he will swim the first 3 relay heats to make sure Oz gets a good lane and only Final of the Medley relays as they are last day programs and he might be stuffed. That would be potentially 12 swims.
 
This is a screen shoot of the 200m Breastroke. The difference between a WR and an Olympic qualifier is about 4m given the red lane rope marking is for last 5m. I reckon that is the closest gap I have picked up so far.

WR = 2.06.12 Qualifier = 2.08.28


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This is about 20th fastest time this year. Throssell swam 2.07.20 at the nationals which is 10th fastest





3rd fastest time this year and 4th fastest in last 12 months. Will have to see what Dressel and other yanks pull out as well as the French at their trials. A Russian in April swam 47.30 is fastest. I think they can compete as individuals like the track and field guys.





2nd fastest time this year and 3rd fastest in 12 months 5.5 sec behind Ledecky.

 

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