Tom Stewart collision with Ollie Wines

[Hoops]

"The proposed change for smothers will be that when a player leaves the ground in an attempt to make a smother, the player "must take all reasonable steps to avoid making contact with their opponent's head and/or minimise the force of any high contact"."

He is fine

 

[The Terrible Thinker]

I saw it as a football collision, end of story. There was no intent by Stewart to do harm and he showed remorse after the impact noting he made a genuine mistake.

 

[rfctigerarmy]

I saw it as a football collision, end of story. There was no intent by Stewart to do harm and he showed remorse after the impact noting he made a genuine mistake.

Steven May got 3 weeks, just 2 weeks ago for a football collision?

 

[The Terrible Thinker]

Steven May got 3 weeks, just 2 weeks ago for a football collision?

Crazy hey but our Visintini got off because Saad got concussed by just running into him.

 

[Sttew]

Steven May got 3 weeks, just 2 weeks ago for a football collision?

That had bloody consequences. Ollie Wines was Ports best player yesterday - 32 possessions. Evans had to be subbed out

 

[rfctigerarmy]

That had bloody consequences. Ollie Wines was Ports best player yesterday - 32 possessions. Evans had to be subbed out

So is it on the result / injury sustained? Or is it on the intent?

Because players are getting suspended for either, but you're trying to tell me that Stewart, who has priors, isn't either of these?

 

[Sttew]

So is it on the result / injury sustained? Or is it on the intent?

Because players are getting suspended for either, but you're trying to tell me that Stewart, who has priors, isn't either of these?

For Geelong players, as you well know, its outcome based. For the rest its potential based, and for Richmond, who cares.

 

[PhatBoy]

So is it on the result / injury sustained? Or is it on the intent?

Because players are getting suspended for either, but you're trying to tell me that Stewart, who has priors, isn't either of these?

His prior - singular - is from four years ago and was a completely different incident

He will get suspended for this incident as per the rule.

Why would that have anything to do with an incident from 4 years ago that was completely different though and was actually reckless when this incident was clearly one he could do little to avoid after what was quite obviously just an attempt to stop the ball.

 

[Elixuh]

"The proposed change for smothers will be that when a player leaves the ground in an attempt to make a smother, the player "must take all reasonable steps to avoid making contact with their opponent's head and/or minimise the force of any high contact"."

He is fine

 

[Mofra]

What consideration is there for "football incidents"?

The intent was clearly to smother. Not to make contact with Wines.

 

[Underarm]

Doesn't matter what they give him, they'll be taking it to the Tribunal.

 

[Underarm]

What consideration is there for "football incidents"?

The intent was clearly to smother. Not to make contact with Wines.

Where did he think Ollie Wines was going go disappear to?

 

[Hamingja]

Do you get weeks these days for hitting someone in the shoulder?

 

[Sttew]

Doesn't matter what they give him, they'll be taking it to the Tribunal.

Who will be taking it to the tribunal?

 

[PhatBoy]

Where did he think Ollie Wines was going go disappear to?

Where did he think he should have gone to get the ball that Wines was hand passing over him - to ground? F**k I genuinely question what goes through the heads of some people when they post this stuff sometimes

 

[Sttew]

Where did he think he should have gone to get the ball that Wines was hand passing over him - to ground? F**k I genuinely question what goes through the heads of some people when they post this stuff sometimes

This is what goes through the head of some - and we all know who they are - "Geelong player, has to have had malicious intent, I want him to be found guilty, but he won't be and that's proof of the CFL"

 

[TheOptimum18]

 

[TheOptimum18]

Throughout the season, I think you can slowly guess the outcome of MRO suspensions based on how much the media makes noise around it.

And when I say "noise", I don't mean statements such as "oh, the MRO will look at that", but rather statements such as "he definitely gets X weeks off", or "this can't be seen in the game", or whatever David King says about high contact on First Crack/SEN

 

[Freddy Swift]

If he did nothing wrong as everyone at Geelong has said why is he getting a fine? Also why did he need to jump in the air to smother and what are these ‘reasonable steps’ he took to avoid the collision? Don’t jump down my throat, I’m just asking.

 

[scoman]

Depends if they grade the impact 'Medium' or 'High'. So 1 - 2 weeks, going by their table.
Careless conduct + high/ medium impact + high contact = 1/2 weeks.

Low Impact gets him off!

Not saying I thought he should be suspended, but I'm not sure how you grade that low impact.

Zac Bailey's bump on Haynes a couple weeks ago was given medium impact, and he got up almost straight away with a little rub of his jaw.

Anyway, play on!

 

[kickazz]

If he did nothing wrong as everyone at Geelong has said why is he getting a fine? Also why did he need to jump in the air to smother and what are these ‘reasonable steps’ he took to avoid the collision? Don’t jump down my throat, I’m just asking.

My opinion is he got the fine because the smother and subsequent collision was a bit reckless. The AFL don't want players charging head on at other players to smother and then botching it and hurting them.

It was nothing more that a fine because his reasonable steps included ensuring he hit the shoulder, not the head (I didn't realise he missed the head until I just watched a replay then)

Seems a pretty reasonable outcome all in all though many might disagree.

 

[DocSholl]

Low Impact gets him off!

Not saying I thought he should be suspended, but I'm not sure how you grade that low impact.

Zac Bailey's bump on Haynes a couple weeks ago was given medium impact, and he got up almost straight away with a little rub of his jaw.

Anyway, play on!

Because medium impact would have meant a suspension, and they can't really clear it after the Brayshaw stuff. So low impact = everyone wins

 

[scoman]

Because medium impact would have meant a suspension, and they can't really clear it after the Brayshaw stuff. So low impact = everyone wins

Exactly.

 

[Hojuman]

Throughout the season, I think you can slowly guess the outcome of MRO suspensions based on how much the media makes noise around it.

And when I say "noise", I don't mean statements such as "oh, the MRO will look at that", but rather statements such as "he definitely gets X weeks off", or "this can't be seen in the game", or whatever David King says about high contact on First Crack/SEN

And the colours of your jumper & your " star " standing in the game.

Should Stewart not have " slowed down " like Jackson Archer ?

 

[Wojcinski]

Zero weeks, which is the correct call. Normal football play, no one was injured, Geelong haters in hysterics, business as usual.