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Take it with a grain of salt but we’ve enquired about Sam Reid from the swans. Makes sense if Daniher goes there / back up if Bruce doesn’t work out.
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Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 2 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)
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Would definitely get picked up before 30, possibly as early as the late teens. The fact he’d be on a draftees contract has a lot to do with that though.
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Is anyone else sick to death of the trade period already? The constant posturing by club officials, playing things out through the media and illogical reading between the lines is absolutely farcical.
Today Damien Barrett called Orazia Fantasia immature for not coming out publicly to clarify his situation. The guy is contracted and on his end of season break, he doesn't owe anyone a god damned thing! Does every interstate player under contract that is playing for a Melbourne based club need to declare their intentions before going home for their annual break?
Yesterday we had Simon Lethlean intimating that Josh Bruce was worth a 2nd round pick, the caveat being that not all 2nd rounders are equal and that an early 2nd is preferable to a late 2nd. When did this fascination with early, mid and late tiers within a round begin? Clubs will stall and haggle and agonise over a handful of places within the current draft order yet throw away future picks, which can land anywhere, without hesitation.
Wouldn't it be nice if we could just keep things simple? If the Saints and Dogs both agree that Bruce is worth a 2nd Round pick then OUR second round pick should suffice.
Tomorrow looks like seeing the Tim Kelly trade go through and once again the stakes have been raised. Trading used to be a player for player or pick for player scenario. Then it became multiple picks for players, then multiple 1st rounders and now for the first time we will see the three picks under 30 precedent. Where does it end? And to think this has come from Geelong who were on the other end of this when Dangerfield wanted to come home. You would think the old adage of 'swings and roundabouts' would come in to play but I guess not.
I must be getting old because I've lost all patience for the circus that this time of year has become...end rant!
Today Damien Barrett called Orazia Fantasia immature for not coming out publicly to clarify his situation. The guy is contracted and on his end of season break, he doesn't owe anyone a god damned thing! Does every interstate player under contract that is playing for a Melbourne based club need to declare their intentions before going home for their annual break?
Yesterday we had Simon Lethlean intimating that Josh Bruce was worth a 2nd round pick, the caveat being that not all 2nd rounders are equal and that an early 2nd is preferable to a late 2nd. When did this fascination with early, mid and late tiers within a round begin? Clubs will stall and haggle and agonise over a handful of places within the current draft order yet throw away future picks, which can land anywhere, without hesitation.
Wouldn't it be nice if we could just keep things simple? If the Saints and Dogs both agree that Bruce is worth a 2nd Round pick then OUR second round pick should suffice.
Tomorrow looks like seeing the Tim Kelly trade go through and once again the stakes have been raised. Trading used to be a player for player or pick for player scenario. Then it became multiple picks for players, then multiple 1st rounders and now for the first time we will see the three picks under 30 precedent. Where does it end? And to think this has come from Geelong who were on the other end of this when Dangerfield wanted to come home. You would think the old adage of 'swings and roundabouts' would come in to play but I guess not.
I must be getting old because I've lost all patience for the circus that this time of year has become...end rant!
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What about the guy who played for Footscray last year? Not an illustrious career but bonus points for being a Bulldog
And Simon Minton - Connell helped introduce Dale Morris to the Bulldogs so bonus points for him
Very very good defender.
Yet they'll try and bend the Saints over to get Jack to the Cats in the same week. **** I hate Geelong.
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That'd be about right imo. Last heard Cats were pushing for a pick in the 50s.
gentleman and a scholar. good luck to saints as well in 2020.Cheers for the replies guys
Exciting times to be a WB supporter - Bruce & Keith completes your spine with that awesome midfield.
Good luck for 2020
i don't believe mclean is up for trade. he has a lot of upside and i think the inner sanctum knows that. he will stay at the dogs for a long time. when he was starting to play good footy this year, he had an injury and took him a while to get back. he is a great player for us and is a long term player for us imho.
Dogs & Freo should swap 32 and a third for 26.
We can get rid of the Saints with pick 26, having only spent 32 a third we wouldn't actually use anyway, and Freo gets extra draft points for their academy kid.
We can get Keath for one of the remaining thirds and take 13 and the last leftover third to the draft.
Bruce, Keath and drafting a good prospect at 13 (with a flyer pick in the 40s/50s and a rookie upgrade) would be a fair old off-season.
We can get rid of the Saints with pick 26, having only spent 32 a third we wouldn't actually use anyway, and Freo gets extra draft points for their academy kid.
We can get Keath for one of the remaining thirds and take 13 and the last leftover third to the draft.
Bruce, Keath and drafting a good prospect at 13 (with a flyer pick in the 40s/50s and a rookie upgrade) would be a fair old off-season.
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Hey guys,
Have heard that we (Hawthorn) have a bit of interest in Gowers but seems like he dropped don the pecking order with you guys. Any particular reason for that?
Have heard that we (Hawthorn) have a bit of interest in Gowers but seems like he dropped don the pecking order with you guys. Any particular reason for that?
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After round 11 he went down with an ankle injury, came back through the VFL a few weeks later but just couldn't find the goals and so never received a call up. Probably needed the reminder that he needs to work hard to get games because he definitely wasn't playing as well as he was last season. A few people here have written him off but I think there's a good chance he'll work his way back into the 22 next season. Would be surprised if we traded him as Bevo likes him well enough.
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Was it basically a case of Gowers out & Dale in from the start of the year though?
Just wasn't sure if it was purely the replacements performing better or Gowers just wasn't at the level. Must admit I was surprised when I heard we had interest.
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Ah cheers, didn't realise he got injured. Yeah I heard the whisper we were interested a couple months ago but haven't heard much since so not too sure if the interest is still there.
Anyway with you guys hopefully getting Keath & Bruce, plus with one of the best/deepest midfields in the comp, you guys could be anything next year.
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As others have said, form was choppy, and he also got injured this year so the season was pretty disappointing. I rate him as having a good ceiling, but am not sure whether he'll do much more with us, especially since Dale (and Wallis when he returns) will probably be ahead of him in the pecking order.
He could be a pretty good player for the Hawks, and we could end up kicking ourselves for trading him at his lowest point, but wouldn't shock me if Hawks did come knocking. You'd get him for next to nothing
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can have moments of brilliance juxtaposed with moments of utter shitness...needs to work on reducing the number of brain farts he has during a game, but undoubtedly has the tools to be a very good medium forward. A mixed bag all round with some real strengths and clear weaknesses. Difficult one to predict where he will go from here; could turn it around and become an excellent player or slide towards mediocrity..
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We'd come to regret it, but fair trade right now is probably just some pick upgrades.
Gowers + 32 + 53 <--> 30 + 50
Almost no point, but can't expect much more. Alternatively:
Gowers + 51 + 53 <--> future 2nd
Really not worth a lot, best we could hope for is to attach him to some pick swaps in our favour
Inside word... If the Saints don’t land Dougal Howard they are going to make it extremely hard for us to get Bruce.
If they get Howard the next domino to fall will be Bruce.
If they get Howard the next domino to fall will be Bruce.
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I’ll even drive him to Waverley if you like. No charge!
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