Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 5 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[doggiesin08]

2 years for Bowes to cover his contract also fits nicely with our OOC players in 2024. We can just take the 2 year hit but won't affect the contracts we offer to Naughton, Smith, JUH, English etc, when they all come out of contract.

In the absence of taking on the Bowes contract we would shift other money into 2023 and 2024 (e.g. more heavily front-end the contracts for Bont, Daniel, Dale, etc.) not just letting it go to waste. Also you can "bank" 5% a year or something if the players didn't agree. There's plenty of ways to manipulate the salary cap across years.

If we were doing the Bowes deal I think I'd rather take on only part of his $800k per year and get access to GC's 2nd/3rd rounders (to flip to Brisbane) rather than pick #7.

I actually find it strange that the AFL has rules to restrict teams trading future picks, needing to have 2 x 1st rounders in each 4 year period, etc. but will allow teams to blow their lists up with back-ending contracts. I think front-ending should be allowed but equalisation across the competition would be better with back-ended deals being restricted (either entirely or partly - e.g. no year in the 2nd half of a contract can be more than 20% more than the average of the total contract period).

 

[Barkly4life]

I never post on here but I wanted to just share something that I am particularly confident in. Sam did meet with some Gold Coast people (mainly managers of). We are not interested in Bowes at all. The player we are trying to pry out is 100% interested and would like to come home (played Werribee VFL) but has been flagged as a potential captain (behind Touk) so the manger is the one actually calming this down. He thinks Gold Coast would not even entertain even with their cap dramas. Sam pushing hard to get the player to commit.

 

[W W Biscuit]

I never post on here but I wanted to just share something that I am particularly confident in. Sam did meet with some Gold Coast people (mainly managers of). We are not interested in Bowes at all. The player we are trying to pry out is 100% interested and would like to come home (played Werribee VFL) but has been flagged as a potential captain (behind Touk) so the manger is the one actually calming this down. He thinks Gold Coast would not even entertain even with their cap dramas. Sam pushing hard to get the player to commit.

So we're talking Sam Collins!

 

[Smiley Boy]

So we're talking Sam Collins!

If we turned Dunkley into Lobb and Collins whilst keeping our first rounder that’s a massive win

 

[W W Biscuit]

If we turned Dunkley into Lobb and Collins whilst keeping our first rounder that’s a massive win

Seems too good to be true, but here's hoping. Anyone know Collins's contract status with Gold Coast?

 

[Mofra]

So we're talking Sam Collins!

Contracted to 2025. Tough get
(Unless we're talking about their other Werribee boy, Josh Corbett)

 

[W W Biscuit]

Contracted to 2025. Tough get
(Unless we're talking about their other Werribee boy, Josh Corbett)

I like Josh Corbett, but he's definitely not in line for the GC captaincy...or is he?

Just think, we drafted Collins in 2015. Kieran that is, at pick 26. And Sam Collins was taken some 30 picks later by Fremantle in the same draft. Did we confuse their first names and take the wrong player? C'mon AFL, he should have been ours all along!

 

[Maverick Dog]

Collins would struggle in our defensive set up. The only type of defender who could succeed is an athletic freak who could run 100 meters in 10 seconds and leap tall buildings.

on the other hand if we played a traditional defensive structure like most teams he would be great. Off field coaching changes are more critical to our success than any player we bring in 2023

 

[Dogs Rule]

What makes me cry is that all these Werribee players are under our noses (there's been a few) Riccardi at GWS another and we just let them slip through. Werribee is heartland, are we blind?

FWIW Collins would be excellent.

 

[Doggy]

What makes me cry is that all these Werribee players are under our noses (there's been a few) Riccardi at GWS another and we just let them slip through. Werribee is heartland, are we blind?

FWIW Collins would be excellent.

Pods back in the day too

 

[bresker]

Pods back in the day too

Pods even did preseasons with the club , but with stellar talent like Andrew MacDougall and Cam Wight on the list there was no way to fit him in.

 

[Ash1337]

Pods back in the day too

and the big 1 in Michael Barlow.

 

[Chops]

What makes me cry is that all these Werribee players are under our noses (there's been a few) Riccardi at GWS another and we just let them slip through. Werribee is heartland, are we blind?

FWIW Collins would be excellent.

They aren’t a patch on Gowers, Hayes or Mccomb.


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[bobs head soup]

What makes me cry is that all these Werribee players are under our noses (there's been a few) Riccardi at GWS another and we just let them slip through. Werribee is heartland, are we blind?

FWIW Collins would be excellent.

Yeah, you would've thought after Dale Morris, we'd realise there's some talent there.

 

[who_let_the_dogs_out]

Didn't Ben Brown

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Ben Brown

Age

33

Ht

200cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

2.2

5star

D

7.9

2star

K

6.3

3star

HB

1.6

1star

M

3.7

4star

T

0.9

2star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

4star

G

1.2

4star

come from Werribee also? From memory we were keen pre draft...

 

[Lex22]

The Podsiadly one hurts, as we were a half decent key fwd away from pinching a flag in prime Rocket years and there’s JPod kicking snags in our backyard for what, 5-6 years?

Not sure how we missed him.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

C'mon Jongy, it's not all bad, we still love your wrong shoulder strapping prank in the VFL decider

He was heavily linked to Carlton last time. We need a wing pretty desperately if true.
If true, it sound like he’s a borderline alcoholic. Is he not allowed to drink at the Dogs hence skipping mad Monday?

I have been told his leave of absence this year was for R, and I don’t mean relaxation.

 

[CDBulldog]

Why not ask him/her to explain further or detail your skepticism ?

Hey that’s fine but it’s the disparaging tone used by some posters in reply that’s unecessary. It’s fine to be sceptical but it’s also unhelpful that some reply with a premise of “your full of shit”. Soon enough any ITK posters just tap out because of all the killjoys on this forum. Anyway we haven’t even hit trade week yet!!!!! Let’s see what eventuates.

 

[CDBulldog]

I have been told his leave of absence this year was for R, and I don’t mean relaxation.

Roids????!!! Is he getting jacked in the gym with 4 hr sessions. No seriously I have no idea what R is..

 

[dergert]

I just can't see Collins being the answer. Eternal pessimist.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Roids????!!! Is he getting jacked in the gym with 4 hr sessions. No seriously I have no idea what R is..

Radio
Eternal
Habits
Anaconda
Banana

 

[dergert]

We could've got Collins as a DFA after he was let go by Fremantle.

 

[CDBulldog]

Radio
Eternal
Habits
Anaconda
Banana

Righto!

 

[BulldogMuscle]

I have been told his leave of absence this year was for R, and I don’t mean relaxation.

Can confirm.

I never post on here but I wanted to just share something that I am particularly confident in. Sam did meet with some Gold Coast people (mainly managers of). We are not interested in Bowes at all. The player we are trying to pry out is 100% interested and would like to come home (played Werribee VFL) but has been flagged as a potential captain (behind Touk) so the manger is the one actually calming this down. He thinks Gold Coast would not even entertain even with their cap dramas. Sam pushing hard to get the player to commit.

This is along the lines of what I heard, although GC might be willing to play ball due to cap issues and wanting to keep King/midfield.

 

[bobs head soup]

I just can't see Collins being the answer. Eternal pessimist.

You are a hard man to please. If I could list a handful of dream kpd options for our list, Collins would be on it.