Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 7 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Foxman98]

Then it’s a no from me dawg

Why would do that in a heart beat

 

[Pencil case]

Why would do that in a heart beat

For some reason I read “wouldn’t be enough” my bad.

That would be the max I’d be willing to pay for Wilkie.

 

[Claythesmiths]

Thats all well and good in the imaginary binary world of bigfooty list managers.

Until a player decides he wants out and then a clubs leverage evaporates before its very eyes.

Determined players tend to get to where they they want to go. And their former clubs tend to get it in the arse.

Let’s not forget we held Dunkley to his contract for two years after he first requested a trade - after Essendon’s offer was deemed unacceptable.

 

[Foxman98]

Makes sense, he's been seen at our training sessions more than any other journo

Coaching the local team u14 with Liam Picken as well

 

[Bald Headed Flog]

Coaching the local team u14 with Liam Picken as well View attachment 2428479

It’s so crazy seeing these coach combos in Vic juniors. My U14 coach in WA was a mechanical fitter. The “assistants” (random dads who helped out) were teachers and plumbers.

 

[dogwatch]

The other thing is we have no one of value who would want to go to the saints

Yes we're a year or three too late. Could've sent Macrae, Zordy and even Daniel if we'd done it earlier.

That's if we'd actually accepted the fact that KPD was an area of dire need.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Something like pick 10 + F2 might be enough.

Im not sure that even Sam Power could maintain a poker face as he slid that offer across the table.

Let’s not forget we held Dunkley to his contract for two years after he first requested a trade - after Essendon’s offer was deemed unacceptable.

Thats true. But it seems to be becoming increasingly more evident that when a player really wants out that he can get to the club of his choice. The Dunkley trade to Essendon always felt more aspirational than determined to me. That he didn't crack the shits and then left for somewhere else entirely when his contract expired seems to prove that point.

 

[DannyB4]

Sam Edmund does get good info about the dogs.

Tough to decide because Riley Beveridge and Cal Twomey are also 2 of the best in the business.

 

[DannyB4]

They are practically worthless from a clubs point of view.

When a player can walk away with years left on a contract that the club may've built their 5 or more years of list strategy around.

You mean like how Oliver and Petracca walked away last year? I remember when that happened. Darned player contracts.

Or do you mean Adam Treloar and Brodie Grundy being dumped whilst contracted? "Worthless from a clubs point of view."

 

[Foxman98]

You mean like how Oliver and Petracca walked away last year? I remember when that happened. Darned player contracts.

Or do you mean Adam Treloar and Brodie Grundy being dumped whilst contracted? "Worthless from a clubs point of view."

Spot on,

They go through swings and round abouts,

Like I said before their value is in how much trade capital you can get Baz had no contract we got screwed Dunkley had no contract for Brisbane we got screwed

 

[The Inbetweener]

The above is why any deal would be very difficult, assuming Cal wants to go (which has never been stated).

You don't get an AA full back for one or two speculative draft picks. Got to give, to get.

IF the dogs are serious about fixing their biggest weakness, there would need to be a quality player in return that is excess to the dogs and required by St Kilda, ideally.

As clubs can’t trade players without their consent, it makes it virtually impossible to include quality players in trades.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Couple of bits:

Buku to Carlton definitely happening.

Steven May

1

Steven May

Age

33

Ht

193cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

10.5

4star

HB

4.2

3star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.5

3star

MG

307.3

4star

D

15.5

4star

K

12.1

5star

HB

3.4

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

0.5

1star

MG

378.4

5star

D

12.4

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.8

4star

has parted ways with Melbourne ... have a feeling you're involved

 

[Foxman98]

Couple of bits:

Buku to Carlton definitely happening.

Steven May has parted ways with Melbourne ... have a feeling you're involved

Fine with the first one 2nd one please be wrong

 

[Doggy]

Couple of bits:

Buku to Carlton definitely happening.

Steven May has parted ways with Melbourne ... have a feeling you're involved

Club has already said we aren't going near May and nor should we.

Has to be Butts.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Club has already said we aren't going near May and nor should we.

Has to be Butts.

I didn't know that - in which case, disregard.

 

[Northern Dogs]

Couple of bits:

Buku to Carlton definitely happening.

Steven May has parted ways with Melbourne ... have a feeling you're involved

Would May be going to Saints, Wilkie to Dogs, and Dogs 1st to Saints and Dogs F3 to Melbourne? Hopefully that's the extent of Dogs involvement with May?

 

[CDBulldog]

Edmund has historically been the mouthpiece the club has used when it wants to get information to the public.

It's clearly true (they wouldn't just make it up). The fact that Wilkie is taking the phone call suggests he is actually thinking about it. I think when push comes to shove he'll decide to stay with a better contract at the Saints but it's not dead in the water.

This is true re Edmund. Lives a couple of doors down from my sister and he gets good intel on dogs.

 

[CDBulldog]

Coaching the local team u14 with Liam Picken as well View attachment 2428479

Picken looks like he’s joined the cosplay set, jousting on the weekends inbetween epic sessions of dungeons and dragons. Who would think from this photo that he played AFL??!!! Legend!

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Would May be going to Saints, Wilkie to Dogs, and Dogs 1st to Saints and Dogs F3 to Melbourne? Hopefully that's the extent of Dogs involvement with May?

I'm really not sure atm sorry. Will know more shortly.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Steven May has parted ways with Melbourne ... have a feeling you're involved

 

[my plums]

Blueku Khamis

 

[Doggies7]

I REALLY want Wilkie. With how tough it will be to get him out of St. Kilda, i'm nervous we get shut down right at the end of trade period and miss out on Butts also as a result. As others have said, i'm happy to go after both for the added depth and we should easily have the salary space, but seems our attention is on Wilkie currently with Butts the backup option.

 

[Foxman98]

I REALLY want Wilkie. With how tough it will be to get him out of St. Kilda, i'm nervous we get shut down right at the end of trade period and miss out on Butts also as a result. As others have said, i'm happy to go after both for the added depth and we should easily have the salary space, but seems our attention is on Wilkie currently with Butts the backup option.

We can easily get both Buku will net either 2nd rounder this year or next trade that + pick 10 for Wilkie then use our 2nd + F2 for Butts

 

[Doggy]

I REALLY want Wilkie. With how tough it will be to get him out of St. Kilda, i'm nervous we get shut down right at the end of trade period and miss out on Butts also as a result. As others have said, i'm happy to go after both for the added depth and we should easily have the salary space, but seems our attention is on Wilkie currently with Butts the backup option.

I think we are after both with one being realistic

 

[MaxiBont]

I'm really not sure atm sorry. Will know more shortly.

Thanks for sharing your info here