Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 8 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[_Mike_]

Opposition supporters coming to troll , you have been warned

 

[Foxman98]

We'll ask for a 2nd. Settle on 3rd.

Everybody wins.

Can't see him being let go for a 3rd

 

[Bald]

Can't see him being let go for a 3rd

I can, I'd like a second but I think that's expecting a bit too much. We were very fortunate to get that for Caleb Daniel, I suspect an early third round pick is about right. I think this plus a 2nd rounder gets Butts done (assuming he nominates us).

 

[lachy]

Poulter might get an extra year with Buku requesting a trade. They were both competing for that 3rd tall role in different stages of the year.

Honestly would sooner bring up Will Lewis from the VFL as the backup forward. Yes he is mature but so was James Podsiadly

 

[VitalDread]

Unpopular thing
But Dogs are fine with Marra coming back for 2026 if no Trade is worth it

 

[Foxman98]

I can, I'd like a second but I think that's expecting a bit too much. We were very fortunate to get that for Caleb Daniel, I suspect an early third round pick is about right. I think this plus a 2nd rounder gets Butts done (assuming he nominates us).

They're offering him a 4 year contract

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Can't see him being let go for a 3rd

I cant see the point in keeping him.

To hang onto him purely as a depth option is as counterproductive for his game as it is for our list management. Especially in here where its a whorey old trope that we hang onto guys like Khamis for far too long.

I cant imagine a space where the club would want to stifle the career of a guy that they took as a CatB rookie who clearly doesn't have a position in our best 22. Id imagine that this will be one of the easiest and quickest trades that take place early in trade week.

One that will in reality probably land at a pick swap that is painless for all parties. I suspect that will mean a 3rd round upgrade for us.

We shall see.

 

[weltschmerz]

Third rounders will probably slide up a bit as bids are matched.

 

[Foxman98]

I cant see the point in keeping him.

To hang onto him purely as a depth option is as counterproductive for his game as it is for our list management. Especially in here where its a wholly old trope that we hand onto guys like Khamis for far too long.

I cant imagine a space where the club would want to stifle the career of a guy that they took as a CatB rookie who clearly doesn't have a position in our best 22. Id imagine that this will be one of the easiest and quickest trades that take place early in trade week.

One that will in reality probably land at a pick swap that is painless for all parties. I suspect that will mean a 3rd round upgrade for us.

We shall see.

Why wouldn't you hold him as depth?

We would still likely get a 3rd for him next year anyway,

Unlike a McComb McNeil Will Hayes type he is acceptable at his role at AFL level

 

[Graeme Cook]

We traded 3 first rounders to get the bloke

No we traded up for the Wizard the Hawks were looking at Sanders and changed their mind.

 

[iambrilliant]

No we traded up for the Wizard the Hawks were looking at Sanders and changed their mind.

Pretty sure someone with solid info confirmed it was always sanders we wanted and confirmed it a few weeks before the actual draft

 

[lachy]

Why wouldn't you hold him as depth?

We would still likely get a 3rd for him next year anyway,

Unlike a McComb McNeil Will Hayes type he is acceptable at his role at AFL level

As simple as goodwill with the player and with clubs we actually trade well with.

That role can be easily filled with a number of options internally or externally

 

[Sentinel]

Unpopular thing
But Dogs are fine with Marra coming back for 2026 if no Trade is worth it

True or not, they kind of have to say this if they want any trade value whatsoever for him.

 

[Bald]

They're offering him a 4 year contract

Yes I know.

I still think a third round pick gets it done. Again - I'd like a second rounder but I'm being realistic.

 

[The Inbetweener]

Buku is worth a 2nd rounder while contracted. 3rd rounder uncontracted

 

[BigFloppa]

Normally I'd think a third rounder for a player who struggles to break into the team but if they are offering 4 years at 600k they obviously want him bad enough to give us a second.

 

[BigFloppa]

Unpopular thing
But Dogs are fine with Marra coming back for 2026 if no Trade is worth it

Sorry VD but I strongly doubt this is true. You've always had a strong Marra bias and you've usually been wrong when making predictions about what will happen with him. Not having a crack at you because you're a great member of this board but I don't trust your judgement on this topic. I'd put my house on Marra being somewhere other than the Dogs next year. Although I'm sure we are posturing that we would welcome him back just to try to get some trade value somewhere.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Why wouldn't you hold him as depth?

We would still likely get a 3rd for him next year anyway,

Unlike a McComb McNeil Will Hayes type he is acceptable at his role at AFL level

Because unlike McComb and Hayes who each spent a mere two years on the list. Khamis has been at the club for 7.

Thats seems an appropriate amount of time to cement a place in the 22. Even for somebody coming from as far back as Khmais did. If you they haven't by then, its long past time to turn the spot over to somebody who might.

Another year on the list and he'd likely be a DFA.

Regardless of bigfooty posturing the deal will probably land at a swap for a of 3rd rounders.

 

[Foxman98]

Because unlike McComb and Hayes who each spent a mere two years on the list. Khamis has been at the club for 7.

Thats seems an appropriate amount of time to cement a place in the 22. Even for somebody coming from as far back as Khmais did. If you they haven't by then, its long past time to turn the spot over to somebody who might.

Another year on the list and he'd likely be a DFA.

Regardless of bigfooty posturing the deal will probably land at a swap for a of 3rd rounders.

For the same reason teams keep picking up BTC tall reliable depth isn't easy to come by,

Buku wouldn't be delisted next year however I am sure he would leave for opportunity

They are offering 600k for 4 years he is contracted if he wasn't I would agree it would be for a 3rd

EDIT:
Their 2nd is also Brisbane's which is close enough to a 3rd now anyway

 

[X_box_X]

I like Buku and I genuinely hope he does well at Carlton if that's indeed where he ends up.

If he does succeed, I don't think we'll be any worse off because you could easily argue he wouldn't get a game in our forward line regardless.

 

[BrisDog]

Sorry VD but I strongly doubt this is true. You've always had a strong Marra bias and you've usually been wrong when making predictions about what will happen with him. Not having a crack at you because you're a great member of this board but I don't trust your judgement on this topic. I'd put my house on Marra being somewhere other than the Dogs next year. Although I'm sure we are posturing that we would welcome him back just to try to get some trade value somewhere.

VD and Marra is like you and Biggsy back in the day, BigFloppa

 

[Bulldogs85]

Going by this article and everyone can access it looks like the club will drive a hard bargain

Brown reaches out to Rankine; Stewart inspires Cats teammates; Khamis requests a trade to Carlton

Mitch Brown, the first openly bisexual male AFL player, has reached out to Izak Rankine. Meanwhile, Bulldogs utility Buku Khamis has told the club he wants to be traded, and fans have flocked to GMHBA Stadium ahead of the grand final.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Norm De Guerre]

For the same reason teams keep picking up BTC tall reliable depth isn't easy to come by,

Personally, I'd rather our tall depth be of the developing type. Like Croft, Walker or Sellwood.

Buku wouldn't be delisted next year however I am sure he would leave for opportunity
They are offering 600k for 4 years he is contracted if he wasn't I would agree it would be for a 3rd

What's the difference? He'd be out of contract and would be unlikely to get a new one with us.

This is why the club won't stand in the way of a guy who they took a shot on as a Cat B rookie. If reports of Carlton offering him 4 years @$600k are correct.

Khamis is exactly the kind off guy who needs to be turned over.

 

[JohnnySteel]

Unpopular thing
But Dogs are fine with Marra coming back for 2026 if no Trade is worth it

As am I, I don’t want to hand him over for nothing. Even if it is only a slight chance of him coming back in 2026 raring to go, I rather that chance be with us.

 

[Claythesmiths]

Given Carlton have Hawthorn's 2nd round pick, which is currently Pick 34, and not their own I think that would be a fairly reasonable offer for Buku. Do we think our 2nd, currently 28, and 34 would be enough for Butts if that trade happens?

 

[JohnnySteel]

Khamis is absolutely worth a second rounder, I’d love to get Carlton’s first with other picks going their way.