Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 8 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[_Mike_]

Opposition supporters coming to troll , you have been warned

 

[TheSportingEyes]

cool, so we are backing in our current key defenders and not chasing anyone else because “for depth we have the vfl key defender of the year” (notice how he didn’t say the name)

See you all in 2027 as I’m officially writing off 26. We will continue to have the exact same problems we do this season with even less depth to cover our defence.

Pathetic.

Looking like this so far. JOD, Buss might have genuine upside but not as number one key backs. Not looking good. I think we get May or Frost in the end, maybe both.

 

[Mojorisin]

Some brief notes from the interview

- Midfield is still a position we are looking for but might not be for this trade period
if something

One of the biggest take aways I heard was that it likely is an area we target in the draft now rather then draft, with a priority on guys who have a strong endurance/speed combo.
I think this goes back to the drafting and retirement of O’Driscoll, a role we still haven't covered.
Going purely off of the the combine testing Grlj would be the one.

 

[weltschmerz]

Pretty sure Sam power has said in the past that they are not just going to Trade in anyone for the sake of doing it.

seems so, we'd bring in an elite player but not someone average

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

- Noted we had a VFL team of the year defender on the list

 

[Bulldogs85]

 

[Foxman98]

cool, so we are backing in our current key defenders and not chasing anyone else because “for depth we have the vfl key defender of the year” (notice how he didn’t say the name)

See you all in 2027 as I’m officially writing off 26. We will continue to have the exact same problems we do this season with even less depth to cover our defence.

Pathetic.

Were you saying this last year when we had the best defence in the comp?

Christ this level of bedwetting is funny

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

JSOS was already being offered a contract over and above what he is worth, and he is more of what we have already.

At some point, if everybody is shocked every year at the value of key defenders (e.g., Silvagni, Aleer, Zerk-Thatcher, Ratugolea, McKay...) they probably need to get with the program and realize that it's just an incredibly expensive position. If you want to fill it you've gotta pay up big.

 

[RWnBluey]

The way Regan tiptoed around Ryley’s contract situation is concerning. It doesn’t sound like there’s been any progress on a new deal. We’ve all seen this movie before

 

[Foxman98]

seems so, we'd bring in an elite player but not someone average

People don't like it but we have Buss/Lobb/JOD/Walker/Gards and are about to add W.Darcy that's 6 adding Frost or May to that group just stunts the VFL development as they wouldn't get a game in the 1s

Butts next year would not be the difference from 9th this year and a flag

 

[Foxman98]

At some point, if everybody is shocked every year at the value of key defenders (e.g., Silvagni, Aleer, Zerk-Thatcher, Ratugolea, McKay...) they probably need to get with the program and realize that it's just an incredibly expensive position. If you want to fill it you've gotta pay up big.

McKay and Silvagni are the only 2 highly paid ones on that list and 1 is already considered a huge failure

 

[BigFloppa]

I think we can still finish top 12 next year with our current list

 

[doggy_dog]

Were you saying this last year when we had the best defence in the comp?

Christ this level of bedwetting is funny

You mean when we had a strong veteran full back at the core of our defence? Head in the sand if you don’t think we need a readymade KPD in 2026

 

[Selim]

The way Regan tiptoed around Ryley’s contract situation is concerning. It doesn’t sound like there’s been any progress on a new deal. We’ve all seen this movie before

idk maybe its just me but its like super obvious the kid is gonna end up leaving. it really seems like the club and player arnt super into each other

 

[Bald]

At some point, if everybody is shocked every year at the value of key defenders (e.g., Silvagni, Aleer, Zerk-Thatcher, Ratugolea, McKay...) they probably need to get with the program and realize that it's just an incredibly expensive position. If you want to fill it you've gotta pay up big.

Zerk-Thatcher and Ratugolea aren't on massive contracts and have arguably been the best of those names you listed.

 

[Foxman98]

You mean when we had a strong veteran full back at the core of our defence? Head in the sand if you don’t think we need a readymade KPD in 2026

Where did I say we don't need one?

I am the same as our list manager if a good one is available like we tried with Wilkie do it if its a cooked May or shite Frost there is no point go with what we have

Overpaying for a mediocre Butts isn't the answer either

 

[Bonti 5416]

cool, so we are backing in our current key defenders and not chasing anyone else because “for depth we have the vfl key defender of the year” (notice how he didn’t say the name)

See you all in 2027 as I’m officially writing off 26. We will continue to have the exact same problems we do this season with even less depth to cover our defence.

Pathetic.

Biggest loss was 22 points.
Won 14 games.

Next year we will have:
No Jamarra sideshow
Treloar and Weightman to play more than a few games between them.
Young players with another pre season under their belt.
Fitness boss able to build on players program in his second pre season.
Lots of coaches began with us last pre season who are now embedded.

There is lots of reasons to be positive about 2026

 

[Foxman98]

Biggest loss was 22 points.
Won 14 games.

Next year we will have:
No Jamarra sideshow
Treloar and Weightman to play more than a few games between them.
Young players with another pre season under their belt.
Fitness boss able to build on players program in his second pre season.
Lots of coaches began with us last pre season who are now embedded.

There is lots of reasons to be positive about 2026

Buss (hopefully) completes first full pre season

 

[lachy]

That Norm guy is an insufferable know it all. Who talks out of his arse.

Pick better heroes.

Something we clearly have in common.

Saves me a lot of time on long posts, so more appreciated than hero

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

McKay and Silvagni are the only 2 highly paid ones on that list and 1 is already considered a huge failure

Zerk-Thatcher and Ratugolea aren't on massive contracts and have arguably been the best of those names you listed.

Some were expensive monetarily, others trade wise. Both these two went down to the final moments of trade period and the end trade was far in excess of what was expected by the broader public going into it.

 

[BulldogMuscle]

Were you saying this last year when we had the best defence in the comp?

Christ this level of bedwetting is funny

Last year we had Jones and Duryea coming off insanely good seasons (even if Jones slowed down a little towards the end of 24’).

We had Fridge who was showing real promise down there as well.

Jones allowed JOD to play second fiddle and Lobb to just roam as a quick rangy interception player.

Lobb is not the number one guy. I repeat. Lobb is not the number one guy. We tried that this year and he was found out big time, specially during games where our midfield fell asleep. JoD is also not the number one guy. People are also forgetting that we drafted Buss as an intercept defender as at the time that’s what we were crying out for.

So between our “best season defence” where we had Jones, Duryea and Fridge who are now all gone from the backline, we have incredibly quickly devolved into having a defence that’s only better than North and West Coast.

It was very very clear halfway through this season that we needed not only a game play change but a change in personal, hence the revolving deck chairs of defenders and zero settled lineup. We should have been working on Plan A through Z for bringing in people we needed, instead SoS used us to get a huge contract from Daddy, plan B was a contracted future-Captain and there is no C.

But continue to be happy with being stuck between 8-12 on the ladder.

I’m not.

 

[willofwest]

Buss (hopefully) completes first full pre season

Would still like a butts or de koning as replacement for Lobb

 

[Foxman98]

Some were expensive monetarily, others trade wise. Both these two went down to the final moments of trade period and the end trade was far in excess of what was expected by the broader public going into it.

Esava was for a 2nd rounder(ended up at 32) and BZT was for Duursma who is shite

 

[JohnnySteel]

Liking what I’m hearing personally. Absolutely no point in bringing in players that won’t move the needle for us. May as well hit the draft and try to bring in elite talent that way before Tassie comes in & compromises it further.

 

[Mojorisin]

Ainsworth off to the Blues, should now see the Khamis trade move a little faster as their next priority.

 

[Foxman98]

Last year we had Jones and Duryea coming off insanely good seasons (even if Jones slowed down a little towards the end of 24’).

We had Fridge who was showing real promise down there as well.

Jones allowed JOD to play second fiddle and Lobb to just roam as a quick rangy interception player.

Lobb is not the number one guy. I repeat. Lobb is not the number one guy. We tried that this year and he was found out big time, specially during games where our midfield fell asleep. JoD is also not the number one guy. People are also forgetting that we drafted Buss as an intercept defender as at the time that’s what we were crying out for.

So between our “best season defence” where we had Jones, Duryea and Fridge who are now all gone from the backline, we have incredibly quickly devolved into having a defence that’s only better than North and West Coast.

It was very very clear halfway through this season that we needed not only a game play change but a change in personal, hence the revolving deck chairs of defenders and zero settled lineup. We should have been working on Plan A through Z for bringing in people we needed, instead SoS used us to get a huge contract from Daddy, plan B was a contracted future-Captain and there is no C.

But continue to be happy with being stuck between 8-12 on the ladder.

I’m not.

So as you have been asked previously if this is such a massive issue what should we have done any different?

Buderick replaces Duryea and Buss replaces Jones not as bad as you are making out